Who is better: Victor Martinez, Dennis Wolf or Toney Freeman ?

[Bobby]

Wonder what gh15 thinks...

Discuss

[allpumpedup]

Martinez:
Best back and arms. Worst quads and waist.

Wolf:
Best waist and quad sweep.

Freeman:
2nd best in all categories. But thicker than Dennis and taller too.

I pretty much agree except I would say Freeman has better lines than Wolf, and his arms are more pleasing because they aren't dwarfed by his delts...I may be biased though, since I just took some NO Shotgun.

[The_Iron_Disciple]

That pic of Freeman is sick ! Damn !

[Bluto]

from those pictures i prefer the x man myself

[The_Iron_Disciple]

Victor Martinez, in my opinion, has odd looking Bodyparts which make him look ( dare I say ) blocky, in a way ... I just don't like how his physique flows, yet I like his Muscle bellies ... very FULL and round ! Has problems with conditioning though from time and time.  

Dennis Wolf has a lot of size as well as OVERALL potential ( especially for his age ! ), however, his Arms would come in 3rd with this lineup. Very " Levrone-ish ". Great Delts and Thighs though ! Great thick, wide back despite the High insertions. Wolf certainly comes in SHREDDED AS HELL which definitely gives him the nod over Martinez, in my opinion. Better lines as well ... a much better flow to his physique.

What can you say about Toney Freeman ? He looks amazing ! Thick as hell, wide as hell, and shredded as fuck ! Much better lines than the other 2 as well and MUCH, MUCH better Muscle maturity ( granted, he is older than the other 2 ) !

So, as follows :

1. Toney Freeman
2. Dennis Wolf
3. Victor Martinez

 

[austrian_power]

martinez: on that picture third. not ripped at all, wolf has better quads.

wolf: numero uno - that's ripped and that's a line (except the calves, but you can become 8 times mr o without calves)

freeman: second

only regarding on these pictures. in reality i would say martinez has to be 100% in shape (i personally think he always has a small water problem) to be first. with 95% i give him the second behind wolf. freeman a very good third one!

[Honour]

Man you really can't go wrong with either, but if i had to chose i would probably say the Xman as long as that Pec is not to bad. Wolf is getting better in leaps and bounds though so he may just blow everyone including the Xman away. Vic's waist is starting to be a problem with me, but i think when he is truly "on" he would be very hard to beat for these guys because his individual body parts are very strong....as i said you really can't go wrong with either though .

[Bobby]

top 5 olympia material?

Do/will they beat: Chris Cormier, Dexter Jackson, Melvin Anthony, Gustavo Badell, Markus Ruhl, Dennis James, Gunter Schlierkamp, Darrem Charles.

Top 10 will be interesting...

[Livewire]

gh15 sees dennif wolf in the mirror every morning.

and he's making quite a campaign for him, eh?

[WOOO]

Toney owns them

Dennis is a close second

Victor has ruined his waist and his lines

[pumpster]

Toney owns them

Dennis is a close second

Victor has ruined his waist and his lines

Yawn

[WOOO]

Yawn

[Monster_Everything]

All three are really very good but you have to look at what they lack , because each has thier own version of the 'wow' factor.  (eg: Victor's Back)


1. Victor- Only flaw is his calves, but in the pic here they look alright

2. Dennis- Uberweak calves plus weak back/high lats (both genetic)

3. Toney- Pec Torn

[ironneck]

i have to go with dennis...
i would say freeman if he had not tored his chest

[natural al]

I was doing my unofficial olympia predictions yesturday and I have Vic in the top 4, Toney will be around 6th and the best wolf can do at this olympia is 8th IMO...so there's your answer...take that to the bank

[PANDAEMONIUM]

I was doing my unofficial olympia predictions yesturday and I have Vic in the top 4, Toney will be around 6th and the best wolf can do at this olympia is 8th IMO...so there's your answer...take that to the bank

I would've placed Wolfe even lower than 8 because his quads and calves are really lacking in mass (relatively speaking, of course)

[wisconsinBB]

I would've placed Wolfe even lower than 8 because his quads and calves are really lacking in mass (relatively speaking, of course)

Lacking mass in his quads?  You are either blind or retarded.  Maybe both.

[natural al]

I would've placed Wolfe even lower than 8 because his quads and calves are really lacking in mass (relatively speaking, of course)

he's got alot of momentum, I picked Branch in 8th a couple of years ago and he ended up there, I put Freeman in 8th last year and he was 7th so for some reason I can call who's gonna be 8th.  I've got Rockel in the top 10 as well...my spidey sense is tingling on that one.

[PANDAEMONIUM]

Lacking mass in his quads?  You are either blind or retarded.  Maybe both.

Perhaps you should learn to read before running your mouth.  Note that I said "relatively speaking"--"relatively" meaning relative to the mass in his upper body and relative to the quad mass of other top 10 contenders.

[PANDAEMONIUM]

he's got alot of momentum, I picked Branch in 8th a couple of years ago and he ended up there, I put Freeman in 8th last year and he was 7th so for some reason I can call who's gonna be 8th.  I've got Rockel in the top 10 as well...my spidey sense is tingling on that one.

You've got a pretty good sense for that.  If I had 500 bucks to blow, I'd paypal it to ya and hire you as my bookie

[wisconsinBB]

Perhaps you should learn to read before running your mouth.  Note that I said "relatively speaking"--"relatively" meaning relative to the mass in his upper body and relative to the quad mass of other top 10 contenders.

You are relatively retarded.  Of course there are people more retarded, but you definately are up there!

[phreak]

he's got alot of momentum, I picked Branch in 8th a couple of years ago and he ended up there, I put Freeman in 8th last year and he was 7th so for some reason I can call who's gonna be 8th.  I've got Rockel in the top 10 as well...my spidey sense is tingling on that one.

You mean prostate?

[PANDAEMONIUM]

You are relatively retarded.  Of course there are people more retarded, but you definately are up there!

"definately"

And you call ME retarded

[wisconsinBB]

"definately"

And you call ME retarded

Oops, forgot the spell check there.  Spell check can't fix mental retardation, so I am still much better off than you!

[PANDAEMONIUM]

Oops, forgot the spell check there.  Spell check can't fix mental retardation, so I am still much better off than you!

Why are you stalking me?