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Re: Fedorov vs. Kovacs
« Reply #25 on: September 17, 2007, 03:39:34 AM »
Quote from: powerpack on September 16, 2007, 09:22:54 AM

Greg Zulak of Muscle Mag fame was a big fan of him and one of the main reasons he got some much unofficial coverage at that time.


Zulak did promote Kovacs quite heavily it seemed, but I'm not sure if he truly was a big fan or that it was part of his job considering it was MuscleMag/MuscleTech   
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Re: Fedorov vs. Kovacs
« Reply #26 on: September 17, 2007, 03:47:38 AM »
Kovacs actually looked pretty great for a couple of shows back in the day. Does anyone have that contest pic of him tensing one bicep with his other arm behind his head, displaying huge, relatively shapely arms and a small waist at that point?!?!?!?
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Re: Fedorov vs. Kovacs
« Reply #27 on: September 17, 2007, 03:58:50 AM »
Fedorov was way better. If Federov never tore his pec, i feel he would actually place OK at some shows, albeit small ones. Kovacs was ridiculously big, but looked like shit (in the later years) when ever he dieted down. But Kovacs sheer size was incredible. Supposedly weighed 400lbs in the off season.
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Re: Fedorov vs. Kovacs
« Reply #28 on: September 17, 2007, 06:55:49 AM »
Bear..the pic is from 96 Canada's in which Greg won his pro card....
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Re: Fedorov vs. Kovacs
« Reply #29 on: September 17, 2007, 07:29:54 AM »
Quote from: BayGBM on September 15, 2007, 12:04:37 PM
Both got a lot of hype, but neither lived up to it. At their respective best who was better?  At their worst who is worse?
Both have paltry competitive records

  Apples and oranges. Kovacs has vastly superior genetics for size and strengh than Fedorov - actually, more than anyone else -, but Fedorov has much, much better bodybuilding genetics. I can't believe you people put Kovacs and Federov in the same sentence ??? Fedorov is clearly a vastly superior bodybuilder: he finished third to Ronnie and Jay once, for fuck sake! Conversely, Kovacs tanked at the NOC, one of the minor pro shows. Can you even compare the two as far as bodybuilding goes?

  However, even though Kovacs has arguably the worst bodybuilding genetics of all pros, he is an absolute titan when it comes to size and strengh genetics. No Human has ever been close to Kovacs in sheer mass and strengh. Here are Kovacs lifts:

 -One arm dumbbell row - 300 lbs dumbbells for 4 reps
 
- Flat dumbbell press - 300 lbs dumbbell for 6 reps

 - Front military barbell press - 440 lbs for 12 reps

 - Barbell row 528 lbs for 8 reps.

 - Lateral raises - 100 lbs dumbbell for 10 reps.

 - T-bar row - 352 lbs for 6 reps.

 - Deadlift - 810 lbs for 3.

 - Leg press - 2700 lbs for 15 reps.

 - Squat - 850 lbs for 2 reps.

  Hope this helps! :)

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Re: Fedorov vs. Kovacs
« Reply #30 on: September 17, 2007, 07:54:05 AM »
Greg looks bad in those pics because he was trying to please fucksticks like you guys who hyper criticise every micro inch of their bodies.

He was trying to get "shredded",  have "striated glutes"  get "dry", and I love this one get "crisp". oh brother. ::)  crisp is for crackers you morons.

It didnt take him long to learn that pleasing people with delusional expectations created by the overconsumption of morphed digital imagery was too dangerous and he wisely moved on with his life.
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Re: Fedorov vs. Kovacs
« Reply #31 on: September 17, 2007, 08:19:53 AM »
Quote from: BayGBM on September 15, 2007, 12:04:37 PM
Both got a lot of hype, but neither lived up to it. At their respective best who was better?  At their worst who is worse?

Both have paltry competitive records
http://musclememory.com/show.php?a=Fedorov,+Alex
http://musclememory.com/show.php?a=Kovacs,+Greg
Both were hyped, but Greg was hyped to the point where he was actually boasting that he would win the NOC back in the day and then go on to win the Mr.O. At the 2001 NOC he got laughed off the stage. His strength claims turned out to be extremely false as anyone who has seen him train knows he does only smith machines and cables. He didn't even finish the 2003 GNC show, he placed dead last at the 2004 ASC (don't you have to qualify to do that show???) and he placed dead last at the 2004 and 2005 Toronto Pro shows. End of story. End of Kovacs.  :-\
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Re: Fedorov vs. Kovacs
« Reply #32 on: September 17, 2007, 08:32:35 AM »
Quote from: nycbull on September 17, 2007, 07:54:05 AM
Greg looks bad in those pics because he was trying to please fucksticks like you guys who hyper criticise every micro inch of their bodies.

He was trying to get "shredded",  have "striated glutes"  get "dry", and I love this one get "crisp". oh brother. ::)  crisp is for crackers you morons.

It didnt take him long to learn that pleasing people with delusional expectations created by the overconsumption of morphed digital imagery was too dangerous and he wisely moved on with his life.

Your apologia for Kovacs is, at best, backhanded.  He destroys his physique trying to please anonymous fucksticks?  Smart.  Very smart.

“It didn’t take him long to learn that pleasing people with delusional expectations...”  Apparently, it took him longer than it should have.  Bah!  Your rhetoric is about as compelling as Kovac's physique... which is to say, not very.

Doom disapproves.
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Re: Fedorov vs. Kovacs
« Reply #33 on: September 17, 2007, 09:55:46 AM »
He tried it once, tried to give the judges and fans what they want, and it didnt work, because it is bullshit and unhealthy...I am glad he left.



The desire and demand by fans to want competitors on stage at near death conditioning, is borderline immoral 
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Re: Fedorov vs. Kovacs
« Reply #34 on: September 17, 2007, 11:20:42 AM »
Quote from: nycbull on September 17, 2007, 09:55:46 AM
He tried it once, tried to give the judges and fans what they want, and it didnt work, because it is bullshit and unhealthy...I am glad he left.



The desire and demand by fans to want competitors on stage at near death conditioning, is borderline immoral 
Very true. But at the same time Coleman, Cutler and Ruhl are much more freakier then Kovacs and they're still competing and making good money off the industry.
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Re: Fedorov vs. Kovacs
« Reply #35 on: September 17, 2007, 01:40:52 PM »
His body looks like my face.  Bah!
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Re: Fedorov vs. Kovacs
« Reply #36 on: September 17, 2007, 03:56:35 PM »
Quote from: suckmymuscle on September 17, 2007, 07:29:54 AM
  Apples and oranges. Kovacs has vastly superior genetics for size and strengh than Fedorov - actually, more than anyone else -, but Fedorov has much, much better bodybuilding genetics. I can't believe you people put Kovacs and Federov in the same sentence ??? Fedorov is clearly a vastly superior bodybuilder: he finished third to Ronnie and Jay once, for fuck sake! Conversely, Kovacs tanked at the NOC, one of the minor pro shows. Can you even compare the two as far as bodybuilding goes?

  However, even though Kovacs has arguably the worst bodybuilding genetics of all pros, he is an absolute titan when it comes to size and strengh genetics. No Human has ever been close to Kovacs in sheer mass and strengh. Here are Kovacs lifts:

 -One arm dumbbell row - 300 lbs dumbbells for 4 reps
 
- Flat dumbbell press - 300 lbs dumbbell for 6 reps

 - Front military barbell press - 440 lbs for 12 reps

 - Barbell row 528 lbs for 8 reps.

 - Lateral raises - 100 lbs dumbbell for 10 reps.

 - T-bar row - 352 lbs for 6 reps.

 - Deadlift - 810 lbs for 3.

 - Leg press - 2700 lbs for 15 reps.

 - Squat - 850 lbs for 2 reps.

  Hope this helps! :)

SUCKMYMUSCLE

kovacs looked like shit. terrible. but he didnt have the worst genetics of all pros. he looked good before he fucked up his physique. federov could have done some damage, if he hadnt ripped his pec.



300lbs db press ?  ::)

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Re: Fedorov vs. Kovacs
« Reply #37 on: September 17, 2007, 04:04:22 PM »
Federov was great.
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Re: Fedorov vs. Kovacs
« Reply #38 on: September 17, 2007, 04:15:51 PM »
Quote from: Andre Nickatina on September 17, 2007, 04:04:22 PM
Federov was great.
so much potential

what a dumbass
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Re: Fedorov vs. Kovacs
« Reply #39 on: September 17, 2007, 04:41:41 PM »
Quote from: affy on September 17, 2007, 04:15:51 PM
so much potential

what a dumbass

yeah. what a stupid thing to rip off your own pec intentionally to improve your symmetry.  ::)
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Re: Fedorov vs. Kovacs
« Reply #40 on: September 18, 2007, 07:36:09 PM »
as soon as you get a gut its over
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Re: Fedorov vs. Kovacs
« Reply #41 on: September 18, 2007, 10:32:54 PM »
Quote from: Quickerblade on September 18, 2007, 07:36:09 PM
as soon as you get a gut its over

No, as soon as you get a gut you start winning. Look at the former and current Mr. Olympia.
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Re: Fedorov vs. Kovacs
« Reply #42 on: September 19, 2007, 06:21:28 AM »
Quote from: Victor VonDoom on September 16, 2007, 07:41:01 PM
Pic?  Not many people can dwarf Nasser.

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Re: Fedorov vs. Kovacs
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Re: Fedorov vs. Kovacs
« Reply #44 on: September 19, 2007, 06:24:59 AM »
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Re: Fedorov vs. Kovacs
« Reply #45 on: September 19, 2007, 06:36:07 AM »
Quote from: dragonfist on September 19, 2007, 06:24:59 AM

Wow, looks like Federov had some real competition there. ::)
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Re: Fedorov vs. Kovacs
« Reply #46 on: September 19, 2007, 07:30:41 AM »
Quote from: phreak on September 19, 2007, 06:36:07 AM
Wow, looks like Federov had some real competition there. ::)

ha ha ha ha!  That's one way to look good: stand next to people who look bad.  :-[
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Re: Fedorov vs. Kovacs
« Reply #47 on: September 19, 2007, 01:41:55 PM »
Quote from: phreak on September 19, 2007, 06:36:07 AM
Wow, looks like Federov had some real competition there. ::)
the one on the right looks like he forgot about cardio
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