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Squats and Milk
« on: September 18, 2007, 12:59:57 PM »

I've read up on a lot of articles and one that got my attention was the squats and milk article, a program so brutal but simple it puts mass on quick smart, it involves 20 rep squats and more and a gallon of milk a day for the programs duration, People have gained in between 12 - 40 lbs so it sounds sweet, I know some of this will be fat but different people get different rates

I started this program yesterday  and drank my 4 litres of milk over the day but mostly through the night and I had to go to the toilet many times, most of the milk basically went through me without being processed.

Is it suggested that I eat plenty of solid foods because that day I only ate noodles and fruit, all high in water content, also to make it easier should I drink the milk in portions through the day like a 333 ml every hour or should I just drop the gallon of milk down to like 2 - 3 liters a day instead

any suggestions or help would be appreciated

cause I'm keen on finishing this 6 week cycle

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Re: Squats and Milk
« Reply #1 on: September 18, 2007, 01:01:30 PM »
hahahhaa, epic fat gains.

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« Reply #2 on: September 18, 2007, 01:03:30 PM »
Great plan tell us how it goes, keep us updated on the progress so we can all learn on how NOT to build muscle ...
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« Reply #3 on: September 18, 2007, 01:10:52 PM »
I've read up on a lot of articles and one that got my attention was the squats and milk article, a program so brutal but simple it puts mass on quick smart, it involves 20 rep squats and more and a gallon of milk a day for the programs duration, People have gained in between 12 - 40 lbs so it sounds sweet, I know some of this will be fat but different people get different rates

I started this program yesterday  and drank my 4 litres of milk over the day but mostly through the night and I had to go to the toilet many times, most of the milk basically went through me without being processed.

Is it suggested that I eat plenty of solid foods because that day I only ate noodles and fruit, all high in water content, also to make it easier should I drink the milk in portions through the day like a 333 ml every hour or should I just drop the gallon of milk down to like 2 - 3 liters a day instead

any suggestions or help would be appreciated

cause I'm keen on finishing this 6 week cycle

This has to be a gimmick.

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Re: Squats and Milk
« Reply #4 on: September 18, 2007, 01:14:15 PM »
Prepare for epic calcium deposits and subsequent stones.

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« Reply #5 on: September 18, 2007, 01:14:36 PM »
hahahhaa, epic fat gains.

LOL , just what I thought dude

But I also wrestle and recently joined a Pilates class, so I think it'll work out just fine.

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Re: Squats and Milk
« Reply #6 on: September 18, 2007, 01:19:40 PM »
high rep squats are great.  with milk and sleep, you will grow.

however, you just gotta remember one thing - it has to be SKIM milk.  Not fat milk.

Start with a quart a day for 5 days.  Then a half gallon a day for 5 days.  Then 3/4.  Your belly will adapt quickly.  But it can't be the high fat milk.
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« Reply #7 on: September 18, 2007, 01:20:16 PM »
I've read up on a lot of articles and one that got my attention was the squats and milk article, a program so brutal but simple it puts mass on quick smart, it involves 20 rep squats and more and a gallon of milk a day for the programs duration, People have gained in between 12 - 40 lbs so it sounds sweet, I know some of this will be fat but different people get different rates

I started this program yesterday  and drank my 4 litres of milk over the day but mostly through the night and I had to go to the toilet many times, most of the milk basically went through me without being processed.

Is it suggested that I eat plenty of solid foods because that day I only ate noodles and fruit, all high in water content, also to make it easier should I drink the milk in portions through the day like a 333 ml every hour or should I just drop the gallon of milk down to like 2 - 3 liters a day instead

any suggestions or help would be appreciated

cause I'm keen on finishing this 6 week cycle


you are lactose intolerant.

stop drinking milk. somewhere a baby calf is being deprived from your stupidity.

hope this helps.

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Re: Squats and Milk
« Reply #8 on: September 18, 2007, 01:21:44 PM »
however, you just gotta remember one thing - it has to be SKIM milk.  Not fat milk.



Actually skim milk and fatty milk both have the same sugar content.  Since fat slows the absorption of sugar and slow insulin release rates, it's better to drink 1% or 2% milk than skim.  I can't remember exact numbers now, but I know that skim milk is lower on the glycemic index than the fatty milk.  In other words, if you want to gain fat weight, drink skim.  Reverse logic. :-\

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« Reply #9 on: September 18, 2007, 01:52:12 PM »
high rep squats are great.  with milk and sleep, you will grow.

however, you just gotta remember one thing - it has to be SKIM milk.  Not fat milk.

Start with a quart a day for 5 days.  Then a half gallon a day for 5 days.  Then 3/4.  Your belly will adapt quickly.  But it can't be the high fat milk.

Thanks dude  8)

Appreciate your help.

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Re: Squats and Milk
« Reply #10 on: September 18, 2007, 01:54:48 PM »
I know this book + have done it's regimen.

There's nothing magical about squats or milk.

It could easily be deadlifts and chicken.

But what's nice about this regimen is that it Keeps Things Simple.

Since you're lactose intolerant, substitute some other low-fat, cheap protein source.

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Re: Squats and Milk
« Reply #11 on: September 18, 2007, 01:56:27 PM »
Key is those 20 reps.

If you're not in complete agony by rep 16, like described in the book, you're not lifting hard enough.

This program worked really well for me - but you cant do it year round - you'll burn out.

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« Reply #12 on: September 18, 2007, 02:06:08 PM »
Key is those 20 reps.

If you're not in complete agony by rep 16, like described in the book, you're not lifting hard enough.

This program worked really well for me - but you cant do it year round - you'll burn out.

My exercise is as follows 3 times a week, just started

5 min run warm up

Shoulder press 3 x 12
Squats 1 x 20
Pullovers 1 x 20
Bench press 3 x 12
Stiff legged dead lift 1 x 15
Bent rows 3 x 15
Pullovers 1 x 20

assisted Crunches 3 x 70 + (5 extra per week)
back extensions 1 x 20 + (1 extra per week)
knee raises 1 x 20 + (1 extra per week)

Can you tell me your weight and gains, have yours legs gain inches?

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« Reply #13 on: September 18, 2007, 02:14:35 PM »
My exercise is as follows 3 times a week, just started

5 min run warm up

Shoulder press 3 x 12
Squats 1 x 20
Pullovers 1 x 20
Bench press 3 x 12
Stiff legged dead lift 1 x 15
Bent rows 3 x 15
Pullovers 1 x 20

assisted Crunches 3 x 70 + (5 extra per week)
back extensions 1 x 20 + (1 extra per week)
knee raises 1 x 20 + (1 extra per week)

Can you tell me your weight and gains, have yours legs gain inches?

cut out the warmup run.

you should be doing the squats first. the idea is that you perform that 1 set of squats with as much intensity as possible.

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Re: Squats and Milk
« Reply #14 on: September 18, 2007, 02:15:11 PM »
actually fellas this is a real program.

But the fat gains are brutal!

Dont try it if you dont want to buy a new wardrobe, because after doing this you amazingly became a fat ass.

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Re: Squats and Milk
« Reply #15 on: September 18, 2007, 02:17:56 PM »
this is what the great paul anderson did. its not for me though. i once tried drinking milk during a long workout and i nearly puked it up

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Re: Squats and Milk
« Reply #16 on: September 18, 2007, 02:20:46 PM »
I know this book + have done it's regimen.

There's nothing magical about squats or milk.

It could easily be deadlifts and chicken.

But what's nice about this regimen is that it Keeps Things Simple.

Since you're lactose intolerant, substitute some other low-fat, cheap protein source.

Great post ! Blue Devil, please do this instead ... your body will thank you later !  ;)

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« Reply #17 on: September 18, 2007, 02:23:09 PM »
cut out the warmup run.

you should be doing the squats first. the idea is that you perform that 1 set of squats with as much intensity as possible.

I can't skip the warmup, I have lower back problems. That's why I took up Pilates.

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« Reply #18 on: September 18, 2007, 02:52:30 PM »
this is what the great paul anderson did. its not for me though. i once tried drinking milk during a long workout and i nearly puked it up

many conflicting reports on what paul actually ate during training. i heard he consumed gelatine.

of course, why anyone would want to look like anderson is beyond me, but it takes all types and his legs sure were...massive.

BlueDevil

still don't see the need for 5 min run.

better of warming up the movement im and finding the right groove so as to minimise pain.


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Re: Squats and Milk
« Reply #19 on: September 18, 2007, 02:58:01 PM »
this is what the great paul anderson did. its not for me though. i once tried drinking milk during a long workout and i nearly puked it up

I don't believe Anderson drank a gallon of milk during workouts.  It's just not physiologically possible, I don't think, because of how, and how slowly, the body breaks down casein protein.  Now, if anderson did one-rep sets, that's another story.  but if he was doing high rep squats that really taxed his system, no fucking way.  I think this is just one of those myths about a legend of weightlifting.

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Re: Squats and Milk
« Reply #20 on: September 18, 2007, 03:00:58 PM »
Actually skim milk and fatty milk both have the same sugar content.  Since fat slows the absorption of sugar and slow insulin release rates, it's better to drink 1% or 2% milk than skim.  I can't remember exact numbers now, but I know that skim milk is lower on the glycemic index than the fatty milk.  In other words, if you want to gain fat weight, drink skim.  Reverse logic. :-\

good info.  I dont know about the gi info. 

All I know is that I had some serious bathroom issues with whole milk.  They are completely gone with skim milk, and I'm drinking a lot more.
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« Reply #21 on: September 18, 2007, 03:11:04 PM »
good info.  I dont know about the gi info. 

All I know is that I had some serious bathroom issues with whole milk.  They are completely gone with skim milk, and I'm drinking a lot more.

Yeah, whole milk gets me too in large quantities.  I usually drink a gallon a day.  I got sick of the taste of skim, plus its lower GI number means it can put more fat pounds on the body than other types of milk.  Now I just stick with 1%.  I would drink 2% but I have some cholesterol issues and already get way too much saturated fat from red meat, etc.

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« Reply #22 on: September 18, 2007, 03:21:54 PM »
You guys are confusing what Paul Anderson did and Randall Strossen's book about the high rep squat routine.  

Anderson often drank milk during his workouts and all day long.  He drank lots and lots of milk, but that was not the only high calorie "food" of choice for him.  He had some other rather radical dietary habits which escape my mind at the moment.

Strossen recommends a lot of milk and high rep squats.  You will get bigger and stronger if you follow the program and are not already an advanced bodybuilder.  You will gain some body fat, but if you only follow the program for 30 days or so you will not gain excessive amounts of body fat.

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Re: Squats and Milk
« Reply #23 on: September 18, 2007, 03:23:24 PM »
You guys are confusing what Paul Anderson did and Randall Strossen's book about the high rep squat routine.

I don't think anyone in this thread was confused about that.

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« Reply #24 on: September 18, 2007, 03:24:30 PM »
This is the old Randy Strossen(of Ironmind fame) "Super Squats" program that is partial based on Joe Hise's methods.

As was mentioned most people actually see far more fat gain, than strength and size gain using it:(. It does have value though in that it does get you use to squatting.