those pics are old by the way.
and there is not one version of ronnie coleman that had a thicker back, sharper mid section and mroe defined legs than jay last year. jay is probabl going to com in at 280lbs this year at 5ft 9. ronnie is going to do the same at 5ft 11. do the math folks. cutler doesnt come in out of shape EVER. especially not as the years progress. he gets better, and better and better.
the only thing ronnie has on jay now is chest arm and thigh SIZE. i would only say that his chest and arms are a little better over all. but jay has him legitimitley beat everywhere else now.
jay is just too polished and complete for a 43 year old coleman!