Author Topic: Report - Blackwater were NOT ambushed and actually killed TWENTY unarmed civilia  (Read 928 times)

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Iraqi report rules out `ambush' claim

Sabrina Tavernise, Baghdad
September 20, 2007

A PRELIMINARY Iraqi report on a shooting involving a US diplomatic motorcade claims that Blackwater security guards had not been ambushed, as the company reported, but instead fired at a car when it did not heed a policeman's call to stop, killing a couple and their infant.

The report, prepared by the interior and defence ministries, was presented to the Iraqi cabinet and, though unverified, seemed to contradict an account offered by Blackwater USA that the guards were responding to gunfire by militants.

The report said Blackwater helicopters had been involved and 20 Iraqis were killed — a far higher number than had been reported before.


http://www.theage.com.au/news/world/iraqi-report-rules-out-ambush-claim/2007/09/19/1189881593161.html


Good job in winning the hearts and minds of the people ;)

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Good job in winning the hearts and minds of the people ;)



So you're just going to take the word of the Iraqi politicians (who are obviously trying to score cheap political points with their populace) before hearing all sides of the story or waiting for an impartial investigation?


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move this to politics board bro.

I don't buy it.

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So you're just going to take the word of the Iraqi politicians (who are obviously trying to score cheap political points with their populace) before hearing all sides of the story or waiting for an impartial investigation?


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nah I take the word of the Iraki family + infant that are dead now ;)

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nah I take the word of the Iraki family + infant that are dead now ;)


I don't (if they even exist).  I'll wait for the results of the official investigation that US authoriies get to conduct or participate in.  These contractors aren't US Military personnel, so the US government has no interest in participating in a cover-up if they were in the wrong given that they're trying to keep the Iraqi government on our side. Worst case, if they were wrong, the US stops doing business with that particular company, and prosecutes the individuals involved.
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I don't (if they even exist).  I'll wait for the results of the official investigation that US authoriies get to conduct or participate in.  These contractors aren't US Military personnel, so the US government has no interest in participating in a cover-up if they were in the wrong given that they're trying to keep the Iraqi government on our side. Worst case, if they were wrong, the US stops doing business with that particular company, and prosecutes the individuals involved.

true, but since they are being paid (contracted) by the US Gov't....it wouldn't look to good either.

If it was a young soldier or marine....some things would be more 'justifiable'.  Being that they are contracted 'paid' help.....it can be a messy situation.


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I don't (if they even exist).  I'll wait for the results of the official investigation that US authoriies get to conduct or participate in.  These contractors aren't US Military personnel, so the US government has no interest in participating in a cover-up if they were in the wrong given that they're trying to keep the Iraqi government on our side. Worst case, if they were wrong, the US stops doing business with that particular company, and prosecutes the individuals involved.

hahahah ok that was rich... so you don't think there is any conection between Black Water and George Bush? Are you kidding me?
I seriously warn you my friend... google first before you post. I'll bet you you'll find plenty ;)

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hahahah ok that was rich... so you don't think there is any conection between Black Water and George Bush? Are you kidding me?
I seriously warn you my friend... google first before you post. I'll bet you you'll find plenty ;)

Right, he went to war to get all his buddies rich, lol!  ::)

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Black water has been training and in conflicts all over this world long before iraq. i was in military and then worked for dyno corp.from 92-94' until injury now am commercial diver.there are a ton of PMC's out there also tripple canopy is another big boy. they are all paid thru the government. of course the innocent are going to get killed its called WAR. dont judge until you have been there.

An inconvenient truth missing in the debate over Blackwater (which is currently in trouble with the Iraqi government over a shooting incident), is that the US military is completely dependent on private military companies (PMCs). This dependency can't be wished away or reversed. If anything, given the trend lines, PMCs will increasingly replace conventional military forces well into the future. The reasons are simple. Private military companies are:
Efficient. If you count the costs of 8 to 9 support personnel (in the DoD's extremely long bureaucratic "tail") needed to field every US soldier in the field and state-side rotations, the high pay for individual private military employees is a bargain (potentially 20% of the cost for a government soldier, not even counting the savings associated with medical care/retirements).
Scalable. There are currently 20,000 PMC trigger pullers in Iraq. These men are guarding facilities and key people across the country. This is likely more trigger pullers (as opposed to support personnel) than the entire US military currently has in the country. Without these men, the US military would barely be able to field a force large enough to patrol Baghdad.
Contingent. Unlike the hordes of bureaucratic Defense contractors that will permanently infest the halls of the DoD, private military companies field mission specific employees. IF there is a withdrawal from Iraq, there will be bust in the PMC industry as firms quickly shed employees
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