We have a world class scientific genius posting on here!!!

[columbusdude82]

Our very own OneTimeHard appears to be the world's greatest scientist: he has singlehandedly destroyed 200 years of so-called "science" as practiced in such dumps as Harvard, the rest of the Ivy League, Berkeley, Stanford, and other godless dens of the devil.

Here are some of his earth-shattering discoveries (emphasis added):

It is my understanding that before the flood dinosaurs lived with man and almost all were discontinued in the flood. Also this doesn't matter much, but that is only speculation that dinosaurs were meat eaters. They may have been or not but only speculation.

Oh brother your getting sent to school today. Another false assumption; where ,please tell me where and how you know that noah was from the middle east. I have read the Bible so many times and It does not say where he is from, he could be from Australia for all we know.BTW if elephants are found in the north pole then ya kangaroos could have lived there, but we don't know that and its irrelevent. So far you've done nothing to poke a hole in this, but please keep trying because I will be glad to answere all your question, every single one.

First off, your comment about the ark is a common misconception. The boat was so big that not only it could fit all the animals, but possibly 2 or 3 times over. Consider the boats dimensions (300 cubits, 50, and 30. As in length, width and height.) This can be translated into 450 feet by 75 by 45. So the boat ends up being a whopping 1 518 750 cubic feet; a baby elephant will take up 12 cubic feet. Forty thousand baby elephants barley makes a dent in this number (over one and a half million). See what kind of results you can have if you just stop and think. "All the animals can't fit" is just a stupid argument.

This brings me to "ignorant comment number 2" They didn't know about dinosaurs. Thats why you see ancient drawings of dinosaurs and other types of species in caves and on building walls from all regions of the earth China, Mexico, England, and many parts of Africa. Clearly you just like to pick a side without doing your own research.

OneTimeHard, how long have you been sitting on these ground-breaking discoveries, and will you ever share them with all those deluded, foolish scientists at MIT and Harvard?

[columbusdude82]

Now before anyone gets mad, I am NOT criticizing OneTimeHard's religious beliefs. He is making scientific claims about the physical world, that are verifiable and falsifiable.

If they are false, they are so ridiculously false as to be laughed at and ridiculed. If they are true, this fellow surely is a great scientific genius on par with Einstein and Newton and Mendel, and deserves medals and honors and distinguished professor positions at the world's most prestigious universities.

Which is it?

[Butterbean]

Really Columbusdude, this is V-Board material.  You already have the conversation going in the other thread. 

What is your purpose for making this thread?

[columbusdude82]

I said it already:

Now before anyone gets mad, I am NOT criticizing OneTimeHard's religious beliefs. He is making scientific claims about the physical world, that are verifiable and falsifiable.

If they are false, they are so ridiculously false as to be laughed at and ridiculed. If they are true, this fellow surely is a great scientific genius on par with Einstein and Newton and Mendel, and deserves medals and honors and distinguished professor positions at the world's most prestigious universities.

Which is it?

[Butterbean]

I said it already:

Which one do you think it is columbusdude?

[beatmaster]

just saying that noah did exist............ to me, thats enough......

drawing of dinosaur in caves........ damn, could be anything, girafe, elephant, whatever, dinosaur we're on earth loooooooooooooooooooong before man and i don't think cavemans we're pretty good at drawing.

... to be continued.......

[columbusdude82]

Which one do you think it is columbusdude?

The basic tenet of the scientific method is that every idea is there to be attacked. If it survives, it lives to fight another day.

If this fellow has proof (as he claims) for any of his propositions, then he should be on a plane to Sweden to receive a Nobel prize!!!

[OTHstrong]

I'm absolutely flaterred. The fact that you are writing about me means that I am effecting you emotionally as you are trying to get a rise out of me out of desperation. I had to put up with all the evolutionary fairytale throughout 20 years of school, so now I just do my part to contribute to my side of the argument, if you find what I say misleading or you think that what I say cant be proven then you can choose to ignore me or debate me back instead of taking things personal, I m sure there are people that are interested in what I write. BTW I think that your side of the argument is far fetched, and ridicules, but you don't see me acting like i am in grade 3.

[columbusdude82]

Yes, you are "effecting" me emotionally. That's called laughter

You claim to have had 20 years of school. That's like kindergarten through masters or PhD? What field do you have your higher degrees in?

Now please, tell us:

how long have you been sitting on these ground-breaking discoveries, and will you ever share them with all those deluded, foolish scientists at MIT and Harvard?

[Necrosis]

i love this thread .


why do creationists think that people in scientific fields are hiding some sinister secret?

like they all planned to create this thing called evolution to fool common man.

god could very well have done it, but i think the fact that god helped with one thing like abiogenesis, but not another, say microevolution(since everyone is on the topic) evidence against god.

why would god need to actively participate in the creation of a species, supernaturally, yet use natural means to allow species to adapt etc?

couldnt he have thought of a natural method like every other thing in the universe?

the way i see it, either god is all or is nothing. thoughts of miracles imply error, and defeat most religious concepts of god.

there is evidence of common ancestry all around us. look at most vertebrates immune systems. the lymphocytes, nk cells, interleukines, enzymatic function etc... are all very similar. this is why we can extrapolate rodent models to humans, hell even equine models among other shit. theres not huge differences between the organs used for life, or the neurotransmitters(serotonin, dopamine etc) used for brain function, dna etc. this is just a very simple example but you can see how as you delve deeper into biochemistry, molecular biology etc these similarities lead to logical conclusions.

evolution being true doesnt mean that god doesnt exist, it just means that the world is rational and coherant without supernatural influence. This would make sense to most beleivers as a material(natural) and immaterial(supernatural) world could not interact.

ps... noah didnt exist.

[columbusdude82]

As the mighty Squadfather would say...

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMMMMMM MMMM!!!! 

How do you figure that? Ten billion trillion micro-evolution does not add up to even one macro-evolution. There are over 3000 variations of spiders, but they will never change into a frog, even if there were a million different spiders they still wouldn't change into a frog. All loco is saying is that micro-e has been observed and no one has ever observed macro-e. So let me see; based on your way of thinking you could say lots of macro-e equals organic-e, and lots of organic-e equals steller-e; and lots of steller-e equals chemical-e; and lots of chemical-e equials cosmic-e, and lots of cosmic-e equal big bang.

see how stupid your post is.

Are you sure you are not a professor of astrophysics or molecular biology at MIT? Coz you sound just like one!!!

[OTHstrong]

As the mighty Squadfather would say...

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMMMMMM MMMM!!!! 

Are you sure you are not a professor of astrophysics or molecular biology at MIT? Coz you sound just like one!!!

I think you are showing signs of fatigue, so I'll ease up for a few days. This will allow you to do some research and come back with something intelligent to say instead of being such a joker. Its seems to me that I know more the you do about your own silly theory of evolution. I am compelled to withdraw from a fiasco because I don't feel your a worthy opponent.

[columbusdude82]

OK sure

But we were having so much fun...

[OTHstrong]

OK sure

But we were having so much fun...

Finally we agree on something

[columbusdude82]

OK seriously, are you a gimmick? Are you just joking around or are you serious?

[OTHstrong]

OK seriously, are you a gimmick? Are you just joking around or are you serious?

just because I have a sense of humour and don't mined putting up with your name calling does not mean I am not serious

[columbusdude82]

OK you are serious then. May I ask, how old are you? And what's the highest degree of education you have attained?

Seriously bro, be honest.

[OTHstrong]

OK you are serious then. May I ask, how old are you? And what's the highest degree of education you have attained?

Seriously bro, be honest.

When I said twenty years I was exagerating as in I put up with evolution for a long time. No degrees, however I have a year in a half at western university but dropped out due to financial reasons and sense I have a kid, I never got around to finishing it I am late twenties. I spend a lot of time at study and I have been to creation seminars and have witnessed live debates between creation and evolution. I also compete in bodybuilding (believe it or not). will do the Ontario provincials next june and yes I am a Christian.

[columbusdude82]

Thank you for being honest. First off, you have to admit that you are not the best informed person on what modern science has to offer, whether physics, biology, economics, or mathematics. You say you have been to "creation seminars." Those are more like indoctrination and education.

Were they hosted by a legitimate university? Were the speakers recognized professors or researchers at real universities?

As for debates between creation and evolution, I have my doubts about those. Perhaps the so-called evolutionists they got were "in on the game," so to speak. I don't know of any single real biologist who debates creationists, because that might create the impression that there might be something to debate. No, there isn't. Science has won, and superstition has lost. One biologist said to a creationist who asked to debate him: "That would look good on your CV. Not so good on mine."

I don't understand why you have such hatred for evolution, or the rest of science. Please understand that when you say something ridiculous in a pompous manner I WILL point it out.

If you want to have a real scientific argument, then that is based on EVIDENCE, EVIDENCE, EVIDENCE.

If you are interested in a real intellectual debate, I'd like that. But be prepared to be called out when you utter absurdities

[OTHstrong]

Thank you for being honest. First off, you have to admit that you are not the best informed person on what modern science has to offer, whether physics, biology, economics, or mathematics. You say you have been to "creation seminars." Those are more like indoctrination and education.

Were they hosted by a legitimate university? Were the speakers recognized professors or researchers at real universities?

As for debates between creation and evolution, I have my doubts about those. Perhaps the so-called evolutionists they got were "in on the game," so to speak. I don't know of any single real biologist who debates creationists, because that might create the impression that there might be something to debate. No, there isn't. Science has won, and superstition has lost. One biologist said to a creationist who asked to debate him: "That would look good on your CV. Not so good on mine."

I don't understand why you have such hatred for evolution, or the rest of science. Please understand that when you say something ridiculous in a pompous manner I WILL point it out.

If you want to have a real scientific argument, then that is based on EVIDENCE, EVIDENCE, EVIDENCE.

If you are interested in a real intellectual debate, I'd like that. But be prepared to be called out when you utter absurdities

Well i've managed to vanquish the grade 3 in you finally. If you are interested in seeing some profesionally run debates at university by actual proffesssor, on evolution and creation then type dr. Hovind debates on youtube and tell me what you think. This is clearly on the rise and you will see a lot more debates on these subjects, and BTW the unversity audiences consider this a scuientific debate. Don't take my word for it check it out yourself. About being honest, well over the next hundred arguments between me and you , you will find that I'll be as honest as possible

[columbusdude82]

No. The ridicule and scorn you call "grade 3" is the only appropriate response for the pompous boastfulness with which you made your ridiculously false claims.

As for this Dr. Hovind, I am going to ask you to do a little research.

First, tell me. Is he really a Dr? If so, in what field? And at which university did he get his doctorate?

[NeoSeminole]

If you are interested in seeing some profesionally run debates at university by actual proffesssor, on evolution and creation then type dr. Hovind debates on youtube and tell me what you think.

I'm very familiar with Kent Hovind. He's a piece of shit who actually hurts creationists more than helps them.

[columbusdude82]

I'm very familiar with Kent Hovind. He's a piece of shit who actually hurts creationists more than helps them.

No. No. Let him learn the basics of the scientific method. Let him learn to think critically and do research and look things up. Let him learn to decide intelligently who to believe and who not to believe. Don't ruin the surprise for him.

[Necrosis]

I'm very familiar with Kent Hovind. He's a piece of shit who actually hurts creationists more than helps them.

kent hovind runs your life


him on ali g is the funniest shit ever, he left a floater, very unscientific.

[OTHstrong]

I'm very familiar with Kent Hovind. He's a piece of shit who actually hurts creationists more than helps them.

Why is Hovind a piece of shit? Is it because he has the crowd on his side at the end of every debate.

Is it because he speaks publicly 700 times a year.

is it because he has a Phd

Is it because university proffessors recognize him as a threat and a formidable opponent

is it because he comes out on top even though he is out numbered.

is it because no one has been able to stump him/

and what gives you the right to call someone a piece of shit? You didn't have a good mother that taught you any manners?