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Yes Wolfe...but IS HE MARKETABLE?
« on: September 29, 2007, 02:13:31 AM »
I TEND TO THINK NOT...
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Re: Yes Wolfe...but IS HE MARKETABLE?
« Reply #1 on: September 29, 2007, 02:37:15 AM »
Quote from: Trapezkerl on September 29, 2007, 02:13:31 AM
I TEND TO THINK NOT...

Yeah you provide some good arguments. I argree completely  ::)
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Re: Yes Wolfe...but IS HE MARKETABLE?
« Reply #2 on: September 29, 2007, 02:38:11 AM »
Quote from: SquatAss on September 29, 2007, 02:37:15 AM
Yeah you provide some good arguments. I argree completely  ::)

What is 'argree'? ::)
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Re: Yes Wolfe...but IS HE MARKETABLE?
« Reply #3 on: September 29, 2007, 02:39:36 AM »
aaaaaaarrghh!!!gree
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Re: Yes Wolfe...but IS HE MARKETABLE?
« Reply #4 on: September 29, 2007, 03:05:42 AM »
Quote from: Trapezkerl on September 29, 2007, 02:38:11 AM
What is 'argree'? ::)

Oh no you caught me on a typo! Jesus...
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Re: Yes Wolfe...but IS HE MARKETABLE?
« Reply #5 on: September 29, 2007, 03:09:06 AM »
Even if he speaks good English he won't be marketable - too many veins that put off the public  - he also looks too much like he's abusing all kinds of shit - he'd be fine for the average hardcore fan but the money doesn't always come from them.
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Re: Yes Wolfe...but IS HE MARKETABLE?
« Reply #6 on: September 29, 2007, 03:10:52 AM »
WOLFE   ;D ;D ;D
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Re: Yes Wolfe...but IS HE MARKETABLE?
« Reply #7 on: September 29, 2007, 03:11:51 AM »
Quote from: Trapezkerl on September 29, 2007, 02:38:11 AM
What is 'argree'? ::)

CONGRATULATIONS!!!!!!!!! YOU SPOTTED THE "ERROR"  ::) ::) ::)
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Re: Yes Wolfe...but IS HE MARKETABLE?
« Reply #8 on: September 29, 2007, 03:42:19 AM »
Only a complete and utter gimp who knew nothing about marketing would seriously think that that is a huge factor.  The WBF taught everybody that even mass marketing couldn't break it into the mainstream.

The most marketable thing about a Mr Olympia is how much of a freak he looks like.  He can be mute and it wouldn't make any difference.  This marketability bullshit is hilarious.  Jay Cutler is not a marketable guy atall.  This isn't to say he isn't a good chap or anything - he's just not all that forthcoming.  Ronnie could never get away from his voice.  Dorian.. again, a stoic british chap who was a great bodybuilder but fairly shit public speaker.

All 3 of them very average in marketability.  In my opinion, Ronnie was probably the biggest farce because he is/was worlds freakier with an incredibly disarming voice.  Pure comedy.  Awesome Mr Olympia and totally deserving.. not what the folks in marketing would consider great to work with though.

Honestly, if "marketable" is a factor then I hate to break it to you but big mouthed idiots like KK and Vince Goodrum are some of the few true potential winners of the Olympia.
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Re: Yes Wolfe...but IS HE MARKETABLE?
« Reply #9 on: September 29, 2007, 05:19:41 AM »
Quote from: BigJ on September 29, 2007, 03:09:06 AM
Even if he speaks good English he won't be marketable - too many veins that put off the public  - he also looks too much like he's abusing all kinds of shit - he'd be fine for the average hardcore fan but the money doesn't always come from them.

Wolfe looks excellent. The problem with Wolfe is the same with Jay, he's not a dominating competitor. Hell, a lot of dudes were off. If Melvin was in shape, Wolfe wouldn't even be mentioned. But in all including him look like shit. I am totally disappointed in this years Mr. O.

I think what we are seeing is more a turn of events, where the Arnold Classic will be a bigger draw (and typically is) for the competitors and fans. The Competitors rarely come out of shape for the Arnold. The judging is also different at the Arnold. Who wants to see the incumbent always winning? That the Mr. O.
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Re: Yes Wolfe...but IS HE MARKETABLE?
« Reply #10 on: September 29, 2007, 05:29:07 AM »
Dorian Yates wasn't marketable he was a homely pasty Englishmen who returned to the UK after ever Olympia , if they were to choose bodybuilders based on marketability Lee Labrada would have been multiple Mr Olympia  .
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Re: Yes Wolfe...but IS HE MARKETABLE?
« Reply #11 on: September 29, 2007, 05:30:12 AM »
yes he is.  i'm sure his english is just as good as tabacco road ebonic jive.
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Re: Yes Wolfe...but IS HE MARKETABLE?
« Reply #12 on: September 29, 2007, 05:35:23 AM »
Wolf sounds a LOT like Arnold when he speaks. That can't be a bad thing
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Re: Yes Wolfe...but IS HE MARKETABLE?
« Reply #13 on: September 29, 2007, 05:36:57 AM »
no he's not, in u.s.a anyway, but then who the fuck is?

pro bbing SERIOUSLY needs another arnold.

a standout freak + charisma.

wolf has no selling point. he just looks like a very good all round bber. kind of like zane or dickerson. forgetable.

arnold had bis and chest

yates had condition, back and density

ronnie had freaky size and condition and some hella peaked arms.

haney - taper

oliva - first freak

scott - arms

they better find a way to sell him though because he is clearly mr o.
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Re: Yes Wolfe...but IS HE MARKETABLE?
« Reply #14 on: September 29, 2007, 05:44:56 AM »
Bodybuilding isn't marketable, so why should the best bodybuilder be marketable, do you think Joe Blow of the street knows who Jay Cutler or Ronnie Coleman is, nobody gives a fuck about them.  The general public would be happy if bodybuilding and bodybuilders just crawled up in a ball and died.  Fuck marketability, I am happy for bodybuilding to be a minority gig, just for us eccentrics, weirdos, freak and psyco's
Long live bodybuilding
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Re: Yes Wolfe...but IS HE MARKETABLE?
« Reply #15 on: September 29, 2007, 05:46:06 AM »
Quote from: BigJ on September 29, 2007, 03:09:06 AM
Even if he speaks good English he won't be marketable - too many veins that put off the public  - he also looks too much like he's abusing all kinds of shit - he'd be fine for the average hardcore fan but the money doesn't always come from them.
What money? Their is no money in bodybuilding
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Re: Yes Wolfe...but IS HE MARKETABLE?
« Reply #16 on: September 29, 2007, 10:34:30 AM »
Fact is Wolfe looks like the most complete bodybuilder on that stage calves being his only downfall but they are still better than many up there.
Its supposed to be a competition judged on physique not marketability, have another one one for that! It doesnt matter how many O's Ronnie has won or the fact he is 43, or that Jay is the reigning O. They are way off, should be judged on whats on that stage but sadly it wont be and thats why there is no point to this competiton anymore and its been that way for a while
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Re: Yes Wolfe...but IS HE MARKETABLE?
« Reply #17 on: September 29, 2007, 10:40:04 AM »
Marketable? To freakin who? Mainstream? Get a clue. General population looks at guys who lift weights as sub human simply based on looks. Look around and you we see that most women prefer out of shape wannabe rapper types with kick ass car stereos.
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Re: Yes Wolfe...but IS HE MARKETABLE?
« Reply #18 on: September 29, 2007, 10:40:41 AM »
Quote from: Trapezkerl on September 29, 2007, 02:13:31 AM
I TEND TO THINK NOT...
Trapezkerl is stuck in the post world war 2 soviet cold war era mentality.
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Re: Yes Wolfe...but IS HE MARKETABLE?
« Reply #19 on: September 29, 2007, 10:41:18 AM »
Quote from: BigJ on September 29, 2007, 03:09:06 AM
Even if he speaks good English he won't be marketable - too many veins that put off the public  - he also looks too much like he's abusing all kinds of shit - he'd be fine for the average hardcore fan but the money doesn't always come from them.

Yeah but Ronnie was a veiny disproportionate gut monster and won eight Olympias.
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Re: Yes Wolfe...but IS HE MARKETABLE?
« Reply #20 on: September 29, 2007, 10:44:45 AM »
Quote from: SquatAss on September 29, 2007, 02:37:15 AM
Yeah you provide some good arguments. I argree completely  ::)

Exactly, nothing to back it up.

Wolf's:

-white
-articulate
-polite
-attractive  :-*


Not marketable LOL ya the other top 10 guys are much more marketable. ::)
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Re: Yes Wolfe...but IS HE MARKETABLE?
« Reply #21 on: September 29, 2007, 10:46:22 AM »
Quote from: E-Kul on September 29, 2007, 05:44:56 AM
  Fuck marketability, I am happy for bodybuilding to be a minority gig, just for us eccentrics, weirdos, freak and psyco's
Long live bodybuilding

i agree :)
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Re: Yes Wolfe...but IS HE MARKETABLE?
« Reply #22 on: September 29, 2007, 10:48:54 AM »
This is hardcore bodybuilding - it is not marketable to the mainstream!

Hardcore means drugs, strict no-no in the eyes of society - there is no bodybuilder on earth who could pul off public relations to the general masses. Arnold only got round it because steroids were legal in his day.

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Re: Yes Wolfe...but IS HE MARKETABLE?
« Reply #23 on: September 29, 2007, 10:55:58 AM »
Quote from: Parker on September 29, 2007, 05:19:41 AM
Wolfe looks excellent. The problem with Wolfe is the same with Jay, he's not a dominating competitor. Hell, a lot of dudes were off. If Melvin was in shape, Wolfe wouldn't even be mentioned. But in all including him look like shit.

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Re: Yes Wolfe...but IS HE MARKETABLE?
« Reply #24 on: September 29, 2007, 10:58:18 AM »
Wolf DOMINATED this Olympia worse than Germany in Poland 1944
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