I CAN BE EASLY top 10 at the OLYMPIA

[G o a t b o y]

I know the IFBB has just granted cards before, but IMO Sami had the same opportunities as all us other international folk to go pro, and if Manion gives him a card there may be complaints from dozens of IFBB national federations worldwide - or a huge influx of 'new pros' as realistically if they open to floodgates to handing a card to a guy that looks good but never earned pro status 'correctly'...which could be seen as rewarding rules violations...then there are many others in Sami's position who could use the precedent set to also apply for a card.

You said it yourself that it is far more difficult for non-americans to go pro... it is not a fair situation.  If Sami was American, he should just win the Nationals or USA's or shut up, but since he's not, he may not have had legitimate opportunity to earn a card.  Manion can give a card to whoever he wants to... most fans would not complain if he gave one to Sami...  that way Sami could compete and either put up or shut up.

[CQ]

You said it yourself that it is far more difficult for non-americans to go pro... it is not a fair situation.  If Sami was American, he should just win the Nationals or USA's or shut up, but since he's not, he may not have had legitimate opportunity to earn a card.  Manion can give a card to whoever he wants to... most fans would not complain if he gave one to Sami...  that way Sami could compete and either put up or shut up.

Oh yes, it is far harder for us, by virtue of the fact that we simply have far less cards available, plus have a far higher population.

Thing is, it's the drug testing. We all know gear and high level bodybuilding go hand in hand, but if one is tested they must play by those rules imo. There are tons of great international ppl who are not pro simply as they have failed the test and are banned. I myself know of 3 people, with pro level physiques [2 female] who are not pro simply due to flopping the test. If they start dishing cards to those who flopped the test - it is really unjust to those who follow the rules, also unjust to those who are under bans [some for life] for also flopping the test.......and simply opens up a huge cans of worms in the international community.

[Mobil]

foreign countries = easier access to steroids... cut the bs

[CQ]

foreign countries = easier access to steroids... cut the bs

Do your own research if you doubt me....In my region [Central American and Caribbean] in order to be given pro status you *must* pass a full drug test for all sorts of substances including gear, rec drugs even ephedra. You are taken directly away after winning and tested that very night. You fail = no card, plus you are banned. Not only tested for the win, but to even enter the pro qualifer in the first place, you must have passed a drug test in the previous 6 weeks and provide the documentation you passed.

Many international areas have drug testing, some not as stringent as ours, but there is some semblance. All you have to do is look at international results....you'll see competitors listed as "disqualified".

[whateva]

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[dr.chimps]

glad to see you're seriously considering the IFBB, Sami!

great talent should never be wasted

Eeeeeww. This kind of stuff will get you hanged in Iran. Watch yourself, my son. 

[G o a t b o y]

Do your own research if you doubt me....In my region [Central American and Caribbean] in order to be given pro status you *must* pass a full drug test for all sorts of substances including gear, rec drugs even ephedra. You are taken directly away after winning and tested that very night. You fail = no card, plus you are banned. Not only tested for the win, but to even enter the pro qualifer in the first place, you must have passed a drug test in the previous 6 weeks and provide the documentation you passed.

Many international areas have drug testing, some not as stringent as ours, but there is some semblance. All you have to do is look at international results....you'll see competitors listed as "disqualified".

So international people have to win a card as a natural, then gear up to compete as a pro?  That's pretty ass-backwards, since the genetics that make one a good natural are not necessarily the same genetics that make one a good juiced bodybuilder and vice-versa.  There are a lot of top pros who would suck as naturals, and there are a lot of great naturals who don't have a good genetic response to gear.

[Monster81]

Eeeeeww. This kind of stuff will get you hanged in Iran. Watch yourself, my son. 

hahahhahahaaaaa,,,,friggin iyatulas

[gymguy]

Sami, I agree you would be top 10.  So, get to IFFB and kick some ass.

[The Coach]

Great Physique......but you're high!

[Tomanater]

Easily... ..You crack me up... .. standing alone in your front room in front of the shrine of ur self you look good i will admit..... BUT until your standing on the same stage as these guys dont be so sure of your self Sami..You continually make your self sound great in your own mind..Dude you need to put up and shut up..first get your pro card then see what u have.Till then it really dont mean shit..
Nuff said   
peace

[300]

hahahhahahaaaaa,,,,friggin iyatulas

Damn, you butchered the hell out of Ayatollah.

[CQ]

So international people have to win a card as a natural, then gear up to compete as a pro?  That's pretty ass-backwards, since the genetics that make one a good natural are not necessarily the same genetics that make one a good juiced bodybuilder and vice-versa.  There are a lot of top pros who would suck as naturals, and there are a lot of great naturals who don't have a good genetic response to gear.

Its is pretty daft yes. Natural is a real stretch though, especially for the guys, but obviously those that do use can't be as 'free' as their NPC counterparts due to repeated drug testing and enforced bans. Most guys that go pro through our region, take a pretty long time to do anything as a pro as they are playing 'catch up'....Gustavo, Joel Stubbs etc.

Thing is fair or unfair, that is the rules we are under, and the rules thousands of international competitors follow. IMO if Sami wants to go pro, he can do what everyone else has had to do......earn the status.

[affy]

talk is cheap

people on this board have been telling you to join the IFBB for more then a year now

don't be such a pussy and go play with the big boys

[michael arvilla]

Easily... ..You crack me up... .. standing alone in your front room in front of the shrine of ur self you look good i will admit..... BUT until your standing on the same stage as these guys dont be so sure of your self Sami..You continually make your self sound great in your own mind..Dude you need to put up and shut up..first get your pro card then see what u have.Till then it really dont mean shit..
Nuff said   
peace

This sums it up pretty good.................... .......

[muscle-beauty]

Sami,I seen you on stage at FIBO 2007,I also seen Jay Cutler on stage,Dennis James,Markus Rühl and Dennis Wolf and I must say,you could be easily top 10 at Olympia!
If anyone says something different,then they are just hating because they probably never aint going to look even close to like you do!
You know you could do it even without joining the IFBB because you believe in yourself and thats good!
If you want to join IFBB,do it but not because some peoples on this board be telling you to do it,only if YOU think its the best for you!
Just keep doing what you do-YOU ARE THE BEST!!!!!!!

[sgt. d]

Sami,I seen you on stage at FIBO 2007,I also seen Jay Cutler on stage,Dennis James,Markus Rühl and Dennis Wolf and I must say,you could be easily top 10 at Olympia!
If anyone says something different,then they are just hating because they probably never aint going to look even close to like you do!
You know you could do it even without joining the IFBB because you believe in yourself and thats good!
If you want to join IFBB,do it but not because some peoples on this board be telling you to do it,only if YOU think its the best for you!
Just keep doing what you do-YOU ARE THE BEST!!!!!!!

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[Get Rowdy]

Wow, I bet Sami didn't think this thread would backfire so badly

[karasan]

So international people have to win a card as a natural, then gear up to compete as a pro?  That's pretty ass-backwards, since the genetics that make one a good natural are not necessarily the same genetics that make one a good juiced bodybuilder and vice-versa.  There are a lot of top pros who would suck as naturals, and there are a lot of great naturals who don't have a good genetic response to gear.

Are you kidding, everybody juicing in world championships!
I made a recent interview with 1979 Nabba Mr. Universe, 1982 IFBB Lght.Hw. Champ Ahmet Enunlu, he said, they all drugged, they beat test, with old, urine in balloon trick!
He competed until 2000 in World Championships, and ofcourse, always juiced!
So don't be so naive, foreigners also juice to the max, in World Championships and World Games...
http://www.bodyforumtr.com/enunlu
Check out video number 5, he's showing his guns at age 59.
Pretty decent for an old timer

[Sami The Black-smith]

Wow, I bet Sami didn't think this thread would backfire so badly

 YOU and the OTHERS have no idea how HARD my training become after all these posts
SOME idiots think that i said i CAN BE EASLY HANG OUT WIHT TOP 3   you FOOOL i said top 10 and I MEAN it..JUST HAVE A LOOOOK at the show....tell me how GOOD is Dareem?!! i saw him in Qatar show and he was even better than this show shape, i CAN tell u i can easily Beat him..SOO i CAN be TOP TEN at the Olympia...
some Stupid ASS talking about the size wise..(DEXTER + DAREEM + HENRY+ RACKEL + SILVIO) all these guys is  what? 215-225 pounds SO plzzzzzzzzzzzzzz shut the Fu--k Up and say the TRUTH:

 is it coz i am not American?? or an ARAB Muslim?? or not being a SLAVE to people who run a federation or supplements companies     you all SICK.... but i guess i am that DAMN good to win all that attention during the OLYMPIA time.. i thought i will be ignored  

  to me i wont PLAY the SIZE GAME....and WITHOUT a sponsor or IFBB federation or any official HELP i proved my self that i can be as good as i am NOW with out all this....THANKS TO THE GAME and my FANS

 
 I think MR.O results should be like this:

1- Vic
2- Wolf
3-Dexter
4-Jay
5- Ronnie
6-Melvin






 

[Dragon]

YOU and the OTHERS have no idea how HARD my training become after all these posts
SOME idiots think that i said i CAN BE EASLY HANG OUT WIHT TOP 3   you FOOOL i said top 10 and I MEAN it..JUST HAVE A LOOOOK at the show....tell me how GOOD is Dareem?!! i saw him in Qatar show and he was even better than this show shape, i CAN tell u i can easily Beat him..SOO i CAN be TOP TEN at the Olympia...
some Stupid ASS talking about the size wise..(DEXTER + DAREEM + HENRY+ RACKEL + SILVIO) all these guys is  what? 215-225 pounds SO plzzzzzzzzzzzzzz shut the Fu--k Up and say the TRUTH:

 is it coz i am not American?? or an ARAB Muslim?? or not being a SLAVE to people who run a federation or supplements companies     you all SICK.... but i guess i am that DAMN good to win all that attention during the OLYMPIA time.. i thought i will be ignored  

  to me i wont PLAY the SIZE GAME....and WITHOUT a sponsor or IFBB federation or any official HELP i proved my self that i can be as good as i am NOW with out all this....THANKS TO THE GAME and my FANS

 
 I think MR.O results should be like this:

1- Vic
2- Wolf
3-Dexter
4-Jay
5- Ronnie
6-Melvin

even if you make the top10 in any ifbb show,, always remember : ALL DRUGS   
never forget that. even when you hold the trophy. even when you train. even when you shit.  ALL DRUGS.

[karasan]

>they all drugged, they beat test with old urine in balloon trick!

thats sound horrible. no wonder sami the blacklisted failed drug test many times

I'm Turkish, so I have an idea about Turkish Bodybuilder, IFBB 3 time Amateur World Champion Hamdullah Aykutlu is a heavy pot smoker, but he never failed a drug test, this is all about your cheating skills.
And if you had Turkish, you could listen how ex world champ Ahmet Enunlu tells about drug test beating trikcs.

[ironneck]

I'm Turkish, so I have an idea about Turkish Bodybuilder, IFBB 3 time Amateur World Champion Hamdullah Aykutlu is a heavy pot smoker, but he never failed a drug test, this is all about your cheating skills.
And if you had Turkish, you could listen how ex world champ Ahmet Enunlu tells about drug test beating trikcs.

naber karasan abi?

[Darth Muscle]

Nice statement, considering you are not an IFBB pro. 

[phyxsius]

glad to see you're seriously considering the IFBB, Sami!

great talent should never be wasted

is that before both of you touching each other?