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Dorian 1995 Would Have Won This Year's Olympia.
« on: September 30, 2007, 04:21:16 PM »
  He would. Let's compare him to winner, Gay Gutler. Dorian was 260 lbs, only 14 lbs lighter than Gutler. When you take into consideration that Dorian is still harder than Jay at 270 lbs, you realize that they are at least tied in mass, and Dorian might actually have more. Dorian's conditioning is still better than Gay's at 270 lbs, which means that it is infinitely better at 260 lbs. Dorian 1995 has:

 - A back as big as Gay's, but with superior separations and it is much harder.

 - Quads are tied for size, but Dorian has better calves.

 - Superior triceps.

 - Superior abdominal/serratus separations

 - Smaller waist.

  On account of all that, Dorian would win:

 - Back double biceps.(backs equivalent in size, but Dorian has better separations and hardness)

 - Abs-and-thighs.(Dorian's waist is smaller and his abdominal separations are much better)

 - Front lat spread(dorian's lats are as wide as Gutler's, and his taper is superior)

  They would tie:

 - Rear lat spread - It could go either way. Their backs are about the same in size and neither the two are missing anything in this mandatory.

  - Side triceps - I still think Dorian has the best side triceps of a Mr.Olympia ever, but Gay's is very, very good. Both have long triceps bellies, and both are missing nothing in this mandatory.

  Gutler would win:

  Side chest - They are both missing nothing in this mandatory, but Gay's pecs are thicker, so it would go to him.

  Front double biceps - Give it to Gay, because Dorian's arms mass doesen't add up in this pose.

  The symmetry round would go to Dorian flat out because he has better taper than Gutler from the three angles.(front, back and sides)

  In conclusion: Dorian would be the 2007 Mr.Olympia if he stepped onstage in the exact shape he was circa 1995. It is amazing that an Olympia physique from a dozen years ago would still be good enough to win the Olympia nowadays! The Yates was truly light-years ahead of his time!

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Re: Dorian 1995 Would Have Won This Year's Olympia.
« Reply #1 on: September 30, 2007, 04:23:21 PM »
Could you repeat that?
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Re: Dorian 1995 Would Have Won This Year's Olympia.
« Reply #2 on: September 30, 2007, 04:23:38 PM »
i believe Jay's true weight last night was a soft 262-263 honestly, no way he was 274.

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Re: Dorian 1995 Would Have Won This Year's Olympia.
« Reply #3 on: September 30, 2007, 04:23:43 PM »
I still think Wolf should have won, with 95 Dorian in 2nd. I would say 93 Dorian probably should have won.

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Re: Dorian 1995 Would Have Won This Year's Olympia.
« Reply #4 on: September 30, 2007, 04:23:57 PM »
Cutler honestly shouldn't even be mentioned in the same sentence as Yates.

Cutler would look like a water balloon standing next to Yates.

Yates' back detail alone would make Jay look 3 weeks out.

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Re: Dorian 1995 Would Have Won This Year's Olympia.
« Reply #5 on: September 30, 2007, 04:25:28 PM »
I agree that Doughian would beat Jaw Gutler.
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Re: Dorian 1995 Would Have Won This Year's Olympia.
« Reply #6 on: September 30, 2007, 04:32:19 PM »
I agree that Doughian would beat Jaw Gutler.

  I agree that both Dorian and Ronnie at their bests are infinitely superior to Gay. But Hulkster, there's no need to direspect Dorian by calling him "Doughian". Give a six-time standard-bearer his dues. :)

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Re: Dorian 1995 Would Have Won This Year's Olympia.
« Reply #7 on: September 30, 2007, 04:34:53 PM »
there are a lot of faults you could call out Dorian for but conditioning IS NOT one of them.

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Re: Dorian 1995 Would Have Won This Year's Olympia.
« Reply #8 on: September 30, 2007, 04:35:29 PM »
  I agree that both Dorian and Ronnie at their bests are infinitely superior to Gay. But Hulkster, there's no need to direspect Dorian by calling him "Doughian". Give a six-time standard-bearer his dues. :)

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Re: Dorian 1995 Would Have Won This Year's Olympia.
« Reply #9 on: September 30, 2007, 04:35:34 PM »
i believe Jay's true weight last night was a soft 262-263 honestly, no way he was 274.

I think you're right , first time I saw him he looked leaner noticeably smaller in the legs .

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Re: Dorian 1995 Would Have Won This Year's Olympia.
« Reply #10 on: September 30, 2007, 04:36:20 PM »
there are a lot of faults you could call out Dorian for but conditioning IS NOT one of them.

According to our good body Hulkster Dorian's conditioning was a myth !

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Re: Dorian 1995 Would Have Won This Year's Olympia.
« Reply #11 on: September 30, 2007, 04:36:42 PM »
According to our good body Hulkster Dorian's conditioning was a myth !
he's wrong on that.

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Re: Dorian 1995 Would Have Won This Year's Olympia.
« Reply #12 on: September 30, 2007, 04:37:19 PM »
I think dorian has a much better rear lat spread than Jay. I am very surprised you think that they are close.

so does Ronnie 98/99..

Jay is a step backward.
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Re: Dorian 1995 Would Have Won This Year's Olympia.
« Reply #13 on: September 30, 2007, 04:38:08 PM »
he's wrong on that.

Oh anyone with any understanding of bodybuilding knows that , he doesn't lol

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Re: Dorian 1995 Would Have Won This Year's Olympia.
« Reply #14 on: September 30, 2007, 04:38:40 PM »
According to our good body Hulkster Dorian's conditioning was a myth !

in the arms and quads dorian does not display good conditioning. very smooth. very 'dough like' see for yourself:

in the back and abs, you bet.
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Re: Dorian 1995 Would Have Won This Year's Olympia.
« Reply #15 on: September 30, 2007, 04:39:23 PM »
you don't get much more puffy and dough like than that folks.

and there are 500 shots showing the same damn thing.
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Re: Dorian 1995 Would Have Won This Year's Olympia.
« Reply #16 on: September 30, 2007, 04:39:32 PM »
Someone post a pic of Dorian from 95 please.

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Re: Dorian 1995 Would Have Won This Year's Olympia.
« Reply #17 on: September 30, 2007, 04:40:11 PM »
in the arms and quads dorian does not display good conditioning. very smooth. very 'dough like' see for yourself:

in the back and abs, you bet.
even in that shot where his conditioning was a little off he's way harder than anyone onstage last night, look at the striations in the chest, Dorian's arms were always subpar.

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Re: Dorian 1995 Would Have Won This Year's Olympia.
« Reply #18 on: September 30, 2007, 04:41:06 PM »
in the arms and quads dorian does not display good conditioning. very smooth. very 'dough like' see for yourself:

in the back and abs, you bet.

You are such a tool.

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Re: Dorian 1995 Would Have Won This Year's Olympia.
« Reply #19 on: September 30, 2007, 04:41:45 PM »
you don't get much more puffy and dough like than that folks.

and there are 500 shots showing the same damn thing.

Dorian's complete physique was done dry & rock hard !

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Re: Dorian 1995 Would Have Won This Year's Olympia.
« Reply #20 on: September 30, 2007, 04:42:30 PM »
Someone post a pic of Dorian from 95 please.

still very dough like in the arms.

sorry.

ND must be pulling his hair out right about now.

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Re: Dorian 1995 Would Have Won This Year's Olympia.
« Reply #21 on: September 30, 2007, 04:43:55 PM »
You are such a tool.

why because I do not fall for the dorian hype?

the man could put pepperoni on his arms and you would have pizza:
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Re: Dorian 1995 Would Have Won This Year's Olympia.
« Reply #22 on: September 30, 2007, 04:44:49 PM »
still very dough like in the arms.

sorry.

ND must be pulling his hair out right about now.



yawn never heard that empty claim before

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Re: Dorian 1995 Would Have Won This Year's Olympia.
« Reply #23 on: September 30, 2007, 04:45:39 PM »
even in that shot where his conditioning was a little off he's way harder than anyone onstage last night, look at the striations in the chest, Dorian's arms were always subpar.

LOL ND is going to love you for that.

his conditioning was not a little off. that shot is from 1993! his best ever shape! hahahaha

like I said, dough like arms and quads.

why the nuthuggers cannot admit what everyone can see is beyond me.

oh wait, no it isn't: they are so biased they see whatever they want to see.
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Re: Dorian 1995 Would Have Won This Year's Olympia.
« Reply #24 on: September 30, 2007, 04:45:52 PM »
why because I do not fall for the dorian hype?

the man could put pepperoni on his arms and you would have pizza:
Looks like polished marble to me.
Maybe he doesn't genetically have striations?
Weird.