you can say what you want, its true, and I guess I forget IM talking to the same clowns that didnt even realize or understand jay was the named the winner of this show last year right after the 2006 mr. O, all you clowns typing on the net here no nothing about bbing or anything about what really goes on...........keep surfing the net to figure out bbing information........get real you no-size clowns.