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Olympia: Jay vs Wolf - Wolf should HAVE won!
« on: October 01, 2007, 08:32:56 AM »
here you can see it all....

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Re: JAY Vs WOLF
« Reply #1 on: October 01, 2007, 08:34:18 AM »
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Re: JAY Vs WOLF
« Reply #2 on: October 01, 2007, 08:35:23 AM »
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Re: JAY Vs WOLF
« Reply #3 on: October 01, 2007, 08:35:37 AM »
Some advantages over Jay
some weaknesses as well

all in all Wolf looked incredible!!

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Re: JAY Vs WOLF
« Reply #4 on: October 01, 2007, 08:36:57 AM »
Im absolutley sick...look at this shit...i dont see one thing better on jay except for maybe the hams....Wolf was robbed and i would do some serious ass kicking of judges if i was him

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Re: JAY Vs WOLF
« Reply #5 on: October 01, 2007, 08:39:21 AM »
Wolf's most muscular is just insane.

Wolf's structure totally crushs Jay's and those pics aren't even adjusted for Wolf's height advantage.

Jay received the biggest gift of his life.


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Re: JAY Vs WOLF
« Reply #6 on: October 01, 2007, 08:41:39 AM »
If you need anymore proof that BB today is bull take a look at those photos, I like Jay and he seems like a good guy, but there is no way to justify him winning or even top 3 IMO

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Re: JAY Vs WOLF
« Reply #7 on: October 01, 2007, 08:43:24 AM »
I havent seen a thread like this before!!! amazing.

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Re: JAY Vs WOLF
« Reply #8 on: October 01, 2007, 09:03:07 AM »
All that I know is…there ware 3 guys in much better condition then jay…

Dennis Wolf
Dexter Jackson
Victor Martinez

This was the biggest Olympia rip off ever.

Congratulations to Dennis wolf cause despite all things it was he’s first Olympia
And he was out there fighting with guys with years in the show and in top of that he’s 28yrs and he was robed.

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Re: JAY Vs WOLF
« Reply #9 on: October 01, 2007, 09:06:46 AM »
Best post today dude and should probably end all this !!! Wolfe owned him COMPLETELY, he was EVEN a more natural colour!!!!

Thats my lot on all this - Its been too negative an example of 21st century bodybuilding to keep on discussing it. ONWARDS......

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Re: JAY Vs WOLF
« Reply #10 on: October 01, 2007, 09:10:18 AM »
I thought it was between Martinez and Wolf I had Jay maybe third.  Dexter just needs to quit...that or actually bring a different physique to the stage then he been bringing the last ten years.  I think Jay is a good bodybuilder but represents a direction that the sport should not move in........Wolf on the other hand thats a different story

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Re: JAY Vs WOLF
« Reply #11 on: October 01, 2007, 09:16:13 AM »
All that I know is…there ware 3 guys in much better condition then jay…

Dennis Wolf
Dexter Jackson
Victor Martinez

This was the biggest Olympia rip off ever.

Congratulations to Dennis wolf cause despite all things it was he’s first Olympia
And he was out there fighting with guys with years in the show and in top of that he’s 28yrs and he was robed.


he competed in 2006, but ended up not placing because Judges didn't give him a fair look...now he has a name...which goes to show you

as milos said : THE SHOW IS JUDGED ON NAMES, not physiques.
and it is sad when people are asked if they want the body of Mr.Olympia, and they say NO...if you don't want the body of the supposed "BEST in the game" then what does that say about the state of Bodybuilding?

that was the smartest thing i've heard all year regarding bodybuilding. Milos exposed many of the faults in that interview on Saturday.

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Re: JAY Vs WOLF
« Reply #12 on: October 01, 2007, 09:19:10 AM »
wolf 2007 is the only physique worthy of being onstage in the 90s.

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Re: JAY Vs WOLF
« Reply #13 on: October 01, 2007, 09:21:21 AM »
here you can see it all....

Wolf has a much better structure than Jay. If he keeps improving, he should have a bright future in the sport.

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Re: JAY Vs WOLF
« Reply #14 on: October 01, 2007, 09:22:14 AM »
This type of judging is why bodybuilding is not a sport.

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Re: JAY Vs WOLF
« Reply #15 on: October 01, 2007, 09:23:19 AM »
Front double bi Jay is stronger apart from that... braaaab


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Re: JAY Vs WOLF
« Reply #16 on: October 01, 2007, 09:23:30 AM »
wolf 2007 is the only physique worthy of being onstage in the 90s.

No...

Silvio Samuel
David Henry
Mark Dugdale

all worthy of hanging with the best of them (small compact and ripped)
reminds me of the good short guys from the past, Gaspari-Shawn-Labrada... that kind of physique

Also Melvin is like the modern day Flex Wheeler, minus the conditioning, he has the most balanced physique on that stage, just not the crisp condition you'd expect.

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Re: JAY Vs WOLF
« Reply #17 on: October 01, 2007, 09:26:53 AM »
No...

Silvio Samuel
David Henry
Mark Dugdale

all worthy of hanging with the best of them (small compact and ripped)
reminds me of the good short guys from the past, Gaspari-Shawn-Labrada... that kind of physique

Also Melvin is like the modern day Flex Wheeler, minus the conditioning, he has the most balanced physique on that stage, just not the crisp condition you'd expect.

silvio samuel has amazing muscle bellies..but looking at his physique on stage i realized he is overrated in many ways.

he is too narrow (see his front double biceps)

also lacks in chest....bigger is not always better but silvio needs alot of mass in the right places...

upper chest, shoulders (shoulder width)

in short: silvio has amazing muscle bellies (round) but not a good structure.

mark dugdale sucked

henry, you may be right about him. he needs more quad sweep tho..he has dexter jackson legs.

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Re: JAY Vs WOLF
« Reply #18 on: October 01, 2007, 09:27:32 AM »
No...

Silvio Samuel
David Henry
Mark Dugdale

all worthy of hanging with the best of them (small compact and ripped)
reminds me of the good short guys from the past, Gaspari-Shawn-Labrada... that kind of physique

Also Melvin is like the modern day Flex Wheeler, minus the conditioning, he has the most balanced physique on that stage, just not the crisp condition you'd expect.

melvin isnt even close to flex.

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Re: JAY Vs WOLF
« Reply #19 on: October 01, 2007, 09:30:18 AM »
he competed in 2006, but ended up not placing because Judges didn't give him a fair look...now he has a name...which goes to show you

as milos said : THE SHOW IS JUDGED ON NAMES, not physiques.
and it is sad when people are asked if they want the body of Mr.Olympia, and they say NO...if you don't want the body of the supposed "BEST in the game" then what does that say about the state of Bodybuilding?

that was the smartest thing i've heard all year regarding bodybuilding. Milos exposed many of the faults in that interview on Saturday.

Bu that’s not new bro, the difference is some have the guts to come out and say it and some just prefer to close their eyes and pretend they are not watching or even worst just go in and play along this corrupted dirty game.

We have seen it in the past with other competitor as for eg. Kevin Levrone and you will see it a lot more in the future if things don’t change which is difficult coz there’s many $$$ ahead of all this which is a shame for the sport, its not about how you are anymore but who you are.

Milos is right and he knows how this shit is goes down…

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Re: JAY Vs WOLF
« Reply #20 on: October 01, 2007, 09:35:02 AM »
silvio samuel has amazing muscle bellies..but looking at his physique on stage i realized he is overrated in many ways.

he is too narrow (see his front double biceps)

also lacks in chest....bigger is not always better but silvio needs alot of mass in the right places...

upper chest, shoulders (shoulder width)

in short: silvio has amazing muscle bellies (round) but not a good structure.

mark dugdale sucked

henry, you may be right about him. he needs more quad sweep tho..he has dexter jackson legs.

maybe on that outing, but he has an amazing structure...
i'd love to have that kind of balance, it's not over-the-top like many of the guys today.
and it's Gut-Free!


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Re: JAY Vs WOLF
« Reply #21 on: October 01, 2007, 09:37:08 AM »
Who can get Jay Cutler’s interview backstage after the Olympia 2005???
please post it.

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Re: JAY Vs WOLF
« Reply #22 on: October 01, 2007, 09:37:54 AM »
Who can get Jay Cutler’s interview backstage after the Olympia 2005???
please post it.

Papa said it's no good they must have pulled it


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Re: JAY Vs WOLF
« Reply #23 on: October 01, 2007, 09:38:30 AM »
maybe on that outing, but he has an amazing structure...
i'd love to have that kind of balance, it's not over-the-top like many of the guys today.
and it's Gut-Free!


i was refering to the physiques they presented on stage this year at the mr o.

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Re: JAY Vs WOLF
« Reply #24 on: October 01, 2007, 09:48:08 AM »
yup i know.
i was just saying that Dugdale is worthy of being a top guy in the 90's-type era when he's 100%