insulin and growth but not at the 25-30 insulin units a day you are used to,,more like the doses i once specified here,,long time of insulin with every single meal at high dose and also oil got its effect on him eventhough the oil looks quite well on him compared to valentino
jason is one ripped bodybuilder but after so long as in good 5 years of insulin gh at high doses and some oil to enhance what needed to to be able to stand next to ron...you can be ripped but look soft for the top levbel talked about