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Re: John Cena tears pec........
« Reply #25 on: October 02, 2007, 06:30:01 PM »
Tearing a muscle and being on steroids have a LOT to do with each other... If you don't know the connection, you are an idiot and should be hit over the head with a hammer.

As for his pec tear, of course, it certainly came from, at least in part from his "job"... but being on steroids, certainly didn't help the situation...


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Re: John Cena tears pec........
« Reply #26 on: October 02, 2007, 06:30:07 PM »
more muscle = bigger veins, so yes he's right.
Yeah, just look at Jay Cutler, more muscle = bigger veins
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« Reply #27 on: October 02, 2007, 06:32:09 PM »
One of John bodybuilding and one of his younger brother Matt bodybuilding... Matt claims to be natural also, compare the two... I believe Matt...

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Re: John Cena tears pec........
« Reply #28 on: October 02, 2007, 06:32:33 PM »
Tearing a muscle and being on steroids have a LOT to do with each other... If you don't know the connection, you are an idiot and should be hit over the head with a hammer.

As for his pec tear, of course, it certainly came from, at least in part from his "job"... but being on steroids, certainly didn't help the situation...



Please tell me the connection as I am an idiot and don't know. ::) This will be good.

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Re: John Cena tears pec........
« Reply #29 on: October 02, 2007, 06:33:46 PM »
Oh brother... do you even know what veins are??? Jay Cutler has more muscle than any other competitor but no crazy veins. There are many meth junkies that have ZERO muscle and TONS of veins popping out all the time. Veins have NOTHING to do with muscle.
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Re: John Cena tears pec........
« Reply #30 on: October 02, 2007, 06:35:00 PM »
Please tell me the connection as I am an idiot and don't know. ::) This will be good.

you should read a book.

guys on steroids are more likely to tear muscles.

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Re: John Cena tears pec........
« Reply #31 on: October 02, 2007, 06:36:01 PM »
Tearing a muscle and being on steroids have a LOT to do with each other... If you don't know the connection, you are an idiot and should be hit over the head with a hammer.

As for his pec tear, of course, it certainly came from, at least in part from his "job"... but being on steroids, certainly didn't help the situation...


true, half of the roster has torn something over the past year, without gear these guys would be half the size, their body is in constant breakdown, they use mainly for recovery.  Whoever denies their users is posting wearing a hulkamania tank top, a defending their heroes

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« Reply #32 on: October 02, 2007, 06:36:48 PM »
Nice and simple- steroids increase muscle size, strength yada yada yada.. but not tendons, ligaments etc as quickly... so? Muscles get big and strong, very fast, but the tendons, ligaments yada yada don't as quickly... therefore, people on steroids, are more prone to muscle tears and tears of the supporting structures which attach muscle to bone etc. this is the simplified 3rd grader explanation, that hopefully even you can understand.


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« Reply #33 on: October 02, 2007, 06:37:41 PM »
Nice and simple- steroids increase muscle size, strength yada yada yada.. but not tendons, ligaments etc as quickly... so? Muscles get big and strong, very fast, but the tendons, ligaments yada yada don't as quickly... therefore, people on steroids, are more prone to muscle tears and tears of the supporting structures which attach muscle to bone etc. this is the simplified 3rd grader explanation, that hopefully even you can understand.
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Re: John Cena tears pec........
« Reply #34 on: October 02, 2007, 06:43:06 PM »
Nice and simple- steroids increase muscle size, strength yada yada yada.. but not tendons, ligaments etc as quickly... so? Muscles get big and strong, very fast, but the tendons, ligaments yada yada don't as quickly... therefore, people on steroids, are more prone to muscle tears and tears of the supporting structures which attach muscle to bone etc. this is the simplified 3rd grader explanation, that hopefully even you can understand.


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No shit, you just proved my point for me... you think that John Cena tore his pec because his strength and muscle size changed DRAMATICALLY ALL OF A SUDDEN!! He's looked that way for years and I'm sure his strength hasn't magically gone up in the last few months. Do steroids play a part in SOME tears... maybe.... but John Cena or any other professional bodybuilder....... NO. Now hopefully you can understand that.

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« Reply #35 on: October 02, 2007, 06:52:23 PM »
Please tell me the connection as I am an idiot and don't know. ::) This will be good.

its pretty simple

your muscles grow faster then your joints and tendons do

thats why 99% of people who have pec tears, knee and back problems are on juice

lol..and please don't try to refute this...its simple biology

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« Reply #36 on: October 02, 2007, 06:54:41 PM »

Nice and simple- steroids increase muscle size, strength yada yada yada.. but not tendons, ligaments etc as quickly... so? Muscles get big and strong, very fast, but the tendons, ligaments yada yada don't as quickly... therefore, people on steroids, are more prone to muscle tears and tears of the supporting structures which attach muscle to bone etc. this is the simplified 3rd grader explanation, that hopefully even you can understand.


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No shit, you just proved my point for me... you think that John Cena tore his pec because his strength and muscle size changed DRAMATICALLY ALL OF A SUDDEN!! He's looked that way for years and I'm sure his strength hasn't magically gone up in the last few months. Do steroids play a part in SOME tears... maybe.... but John Cena or any other professional bodybuilder....... NO. Now hopefully you can understand that.


just because he's been training for several years doesn't mean shit retard

kevin levrone tore his pec after he trained for 15+ years
same with tony freeman
dorian yates tore half the muscles off his tendons near the end of his career

the list goes on and on and on and on


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Re: John Cena tears pec........
« Reply #37 on: October 02, 2007, 06:57:46 PM »
no he has "curly fry" veins no natural has curly fry veins
idiot, the vein shape is genetic.

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Re: John Cena tears pec........
« Reply #38 on: October 02, 2007, 07:00:23 PM »
its pretty simple

your muscles grow faster then your joints and tendons do

thats why 99% of people who have pec tears, knee and back problems are on juice

lol..and please don't try to refute this...its simple biology

99% HAHAHAHAHAHA!!! If you're going to present this to somebody, do it to someone that doesn't read medical literature. Please show me ANYTHING that proves steroids cause muscle tears. I'll save some time for you... you won't find anything.

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Re: John Cena tears pec........
« Reply #39 on: October 02, 2007, 07:18:49 PM »
just because he's been training for several years doesn't mean shit retard

kevin levrone tore his pec after he trained for 15+ years
same with tony freeman
dorian yates tore half the muscles off his tendons near the end of his career

the list goes on and on and on and on

Ok... let me try to make sense out of this so you even you might be able to understand... We all know the ONLY correlation between steroids and muscle tears is the strength of the muscle increasing too rapidly for the tendon to handle. Therefore.... you just proved me right by naming the guys above. For example... Dorian had his injuries toward the end of his career so that means he had been juicing and training for many, many years. Dorian was not suddenly lifting more weight than usual because his 1,458th cycle in 1995 or whatever fucking year he got hurt, gave him this "sudden newfound strength." Steroid induced muscle tears happen because the muscle is too strong for the tendon. In Dorian or Levrones case, their tendons had YEARS to become stronger and they had been moving the same amount of heavy ass weight for many years also when they were injured. There are MANY factors that come into play when these injuries occur, but steroids were not the reason in any of these above mentioned cases. If you don't understand that, then I don't know what more can be said.

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« Reply #40 on: October 02, 2007, 07:27:28 PM »
Oh brother... do you even know what veins are??? Jay Cutler has more muscle than any other competitor but no crazy veins. There are many meth junkies that have ZERO muscle and TONS of veins popping out all the time. Veins have NOTHING to do with muscle.

you are losing your time matt  :-\

those guys actually believe that a calorie is a calorie

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Re: John Cena tears pec........
« Reply #41 on: October 02, 2007, 07:28:11 PM »
Nice and simple- steroids increase muscle size, strength yada yada yada.. but not tendons, ligaments etc as quickly... so? Muscles get big and strong, very fast, but the tendons, ligaments yada yada don't as quickly... therefore, people on steroids, are more prone to muscle tears and tears of the supporting structures which attach muscle to bone etc. this is the simplified 3rd grader explanation, that hopefully even you can understand.


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No shit, you just proved my point for me... you think that John Cena tore his pec because his strength and muscle size changed DRAMATICALLY ALL OF A SUDDEN!! He's looked that way for years and I'm sure his strength hasn't magically gone up in the last few months. Do steroids play a part in SOME tears... maybe.... but John Cena or any other professional bodybuilder....... NO. Now hopefully you can understand that.


Oh ok, so when pro bodybuilders tear muscles, it has NOTHING to do with steroids? Or John Cena's pec tear had ABSOLUTELY nothing to do with steroids? or his increased muscle mass, but decreased tendon strength? I had stated this could be related, I never stated it was the ONLY cause... But anyway... LOL Thanks for the laughs... I've realized you are an idiot, that just wants to argue online... so speaking with you really is a waste of time.

Good luck with life, kid!

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Oh boy... I'm not trying to argue with anybody... just trying to tell you that you are misinformed. First of all you stated that muscle size increases and tendon strength decreases. That is FALSE. Tendon strength does NOT decrease because of steroids. Since John Cena tore his pec while he was WRESTLING it was from sudden impact on a stretched tendon that was much to strong for it to handle. THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH STEROIDS. I have a friend that rides bulls and he tore his pec doing so when his hand got caught in the rope and he fell off the bull. He doesn't even workout. Do you think that only muscular people tear muscles?? Get a clue. Ahh.. Fuck it... you probably believe Chris Benoit killed his family because of a "roid rage." But yeah... I'm the idiot. Do some research.

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Re: John Cena tears pec........
« Reply #42 on: October 02, 2007, 07:30:06 PM »
you are losing your time matt  :-\

those guys actually believe that a calorie is a calorie

Yeah i know, but I'm bored and trying to make sense to mentally challenged folks is quite CHALLENGING!  ;D

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Re: John Cena tears pec........
« Reply #43 on: October 03, 2007, 12:51:56 AM »
He looked small at the O expo



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Re: John Cena tears pec........
« Reply #44 on: October 03, 2007, 12:53:55 AM »
did you know that 87% of statistics are made up?

Including this one? :D

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Re: John Cena tears pec........
« Reply #45 on: October 03, 2007, 01:30:30 AM »
these kind of injuries (pec tears) occur in people who have muscles growing real fast, and the only way their muscles could grow/slim down/repair that fast is...they re on steroids.

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Re: John Cena tears pec........
« Reply #46 on: October 03, 2007, 04:40:18 AM »
9x out of 10, pec tear=roid usage
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« Reply #47 on: October 03, 2007, 06:02:45 AM »
9x out of 10, pec tear=roid usage

hahahaha yes, the other 1/10 is from pro hormone usage!!!

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« Reply #48 on: October 03, 2007, 06:19:36 AM »
idiot, the vein shape is genetic.

lol, always good to see the odd person with a brain still posts here.

of course, that huge fat italian woman that i saw at the shops with her 'sqiggly' calf veins and 8 kids could very well be taking monstrous amounts of dianabol with her spaghetti bolognaise...

think i'll file that waddy gem with the one where he claimed naturals should eat 10000 calories a day and just do tons of cardio. ::)

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Re: John Cena tears pec........
« Reply #49 on: October 03, 2007, 06:48:49 AM »
im downloading it right now, just to see the tear :/