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Pastor Ted Haggard STILL Wants Your Money
« on: October 03, 2007, 10:57:55 AM »
Disgraced former president of the National Association of Evangelicals pastor Ted Haggard has turned his back on the gays - and not in a good way!

But old habits die hard, and the mega church founder still expects people to foot his bills and send him money.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,294538,00.html
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Re: Pastor Ted Haggard STILL Wants Your Money
« Reply #1 on: October 03, 2007, 12:06:36 PM »
Another great example of the imperfection of salvation in Christianity.


When people really want to change their lives they do.   some fall back some succeed.   That happens in every religion and with atheists.

Haggard is a meat-head.   
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Re: Pastor Ted Haggard STILL Wants Your Money
« Reply #2 on: October 03, 2007, 12:19:57 PM »
No, it's a great example of the stupidity and ignorance of religion and how it doesn't understand sexuality.

If you are gay, then you are gay, and no amount of prayer or "therapy" is going to change you. Pastor Ted will now fade into oblivion until his next sausage-smuggling  scandal is made public...
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Re: Pastor Ted Haggard STILL Wants Your Money
« Reply #3 on: October 03, 2007, 12:27:51 PM »
 ::)  It's a great example of a man who is a homosexual and disgraced and abused his position and his family. 
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Re: Pastor Ted Haggard STILL Wants Your Money
« Reply #4 on: October 03, 2007, 03:11:21 PM »
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Re: Pastor Ted Haggard STILL Wants Your Money
« Reply #5 on: October 03, 2007, 04:43:34 PM »
"Christian Salvation's" effectiveness can only be rated by its results through men.

If you have a medicine that's supposed to cure people and it cures 2 in 300 than you can't dismiss the 298 it didn't work and claim the 2 it did work on as evidence of it working.

Haggard is a great example of how "Christian Salvation" is no different than a person who is decides to make a change in their life for the better.  Sometimes it lasts sometimes it doesn't. 
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Re: Pastor Ted Haggard STILL Wants Your Money
« Reply #6 on: October 03, 2007, 05:10:22 PM »
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,294538,00.html

Haggard received a salary of $115,000 for the 10 months he worked in 2006 and an $85,000 anniversary bonus before the scandal broke, The Gazette reported. Haggard's severance package included a year's salary of $138,000, and he collects royalties on his book titles, the newspaper reported.

El Paso County records show Haggard's home, which has been up for sale, has a market value of $715,051.


And he still wants more donations?  This man has no shame.  The sad part is there are fools who will continue to give their money to him.  ::)
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Re: Pastor Ted Haggard STILL Wants Your Money
« Reply #7 on: October 03, 2007, 05:12:00 PM »
Thought it was just my ass he wanted.. Now he's REALLY crossing the line!  >:(
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Re: Pastor Ted Haggard STILL Wants Your Money
« Reply #8 on: October 03, 2007, 08:03:59 PM »
Quote from: Beach Bum on October 03, 2007, 12:27:51 PM
::)  It's a great example of a man who is a homosexual and disgraced and abused his position and his family. 

Isn't he a  great example of a man who chose to be a homosexual?

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Re: Pastor Ted Haggard STILL Wants Your Money
« Reply #9 on: October 04, 2007, 02:36:46 PM »
Quote from: Straw Man on October 03, 2007, 08:03:59 PM
Isn't he a  great example of a man who chose to be a homosexual?



How do you know that? Maybe you were the one who convinced him to "choose" man-on-man action? Or do you know him personally?
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Re: Pastor Ted Haggard STILL Wants Your Money
« Reply #10 on: October 04, 2007, 02:57:56 PM »
Quote from: Straw Man on October 03, 2007, 08:03:59 PM
Isn't he a  great example of a man who chose to be a homosexual?



You mean like all homosexuals?  Yes. 
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Re: Pastor Ted Haggard STILL Wants Your Money
« Reply #11 on: October 04, 2007, 03:00:26 PM »
Quote from: Beach Bum on October 04, 2007, 02:57:56 PM
You mean like all homosexuals?  Yes. 

Oh brother... why don't you go "choose" to be homosexual for a few hours, go to a homosexual bar, sit in a homosexual chair, drink some homosexual beer, make out with some homosexual dudes, engage in some homosexual sex, then come back and tell us how it went for you?

PS: Don't forget to take your homosexual condoms with you, and your homosexual lube. :)
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Re: Pastor Ted Haggard STILL Wants Your Money
« Reply #12 on: October 04, 2007, 03:29:24 PM »
Quote from: columbusdude82 on October 04, 2007, 03:00:26 PM
Oh brother... why don't you go "choose" to be homosexual for a few hours, go to a homosexual bar, sit in a homosexual chair, drink some homosexual beer, make out with some homosexual dudes, engage in some homosexual sex, then come back and tell us how it went for you?

PS: Don't forget to take your homosexual condoms with you, and your homosexual lube. :)

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Re: Pastor Ted Haggard STILL Wants Your Money
« Reply #13 on: October 04, 2007, 05:33:55 PM »
Quote from: Beach Bum on October 04, 2007, 03:29:24 PM
???

Allow me to explain. You say that homosexuals "choose" to be homosexual. If sexual orientation is a matter of choice, then you should be able to choose as well.

So tell us, can you choose to be gay, even if for just one afternoon?
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Re: Pastor Ted Haggard STILL Wants Your Money
« Reply #14 on: October 04, 2007, 05:40:13 PM »
Quote from: columbusdude82 on October 04, 2007, 05:33:55 PM
Allow me to explain. You say that homosexuals "choose" to be homosexual. If sexual orientation is a matter of choice, then you should be able to choose as well.

So tell us, can you choose to be gay, even if for just one afternoon?

Is this a trick question?  I can choose to do whatever I want.  Just like you.  I choose not to engage in certain lifestyle behaviors, just like anyone else. 
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Re: Pastor Ted Haggard STILL Wants Your Money
« Reply #15 on: October 04, 2007, 05:43:28 PM »
Quote from: Beach Bum on October 04, 2007, 05:40:13 PM
Is this a trick question?  I can choose to do whatever I want.  Just like you.  I choose not to engage in certain lifestyle behaviors, just like anyone else. 

So you can choose to be homosexual or heterosexual? You are saying you can choose to get hard looking at pictures of naked men, and you can choose to perform oral sex on a guy, and you can choose to perform anal sex with a guy?

Wow... you must have some will power...
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Re: Pastor Ted Haggard STILL Wants Your Money
« Reply #16 on: October 04, 2007, 05:43:51 PM »
Quote from: Beach Bum on October 04, 2007, 05:40:13 PM
Is this a trick question?  I can choose to do whatever I want.  Just like you.  I choose not to engage in certain lifestyle behaviors, just like anyone else. 
You choose to be attracted to females?
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Re: Pastor Ted Haggard STILL Wants Your Money
« Reply #17 on: October 04, 2007, 05:57:35 PM »
Quote from: columbusdude82 on October 04, 2007, 05:43:28 PM
So you can choose to be homosexual or heterosexual? You are saying you can choose to get hard looking at pictures of naked men, and you can choose to perform oral sex on a guy, and you can choose to perform anal sex with a guy?

Wow... you must have some will power...

We are all born heterosexual so no choice in that regard is necessary.  We can all choose whether or not to engage in unnatural behavior. 
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Re: Pastor Ted Haggard STILL Wants Your Money
« Reply #18 on: October 04, 2007, 05:58:39 PM »
Quote from: haider on October 04, 2007, 05:43:51 PM
You choose to be attracted to females?

Nope.  I was born that way.  It's nature.   :) 
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Re: Pastor Ted Haggard STILL Wants Your Money
« Reply #19 on: October 04, 2007, 06:04:58 PM »
Quote from: Beach Bum on October 04, 2007, 05:57:35 PM
We are all born heterosexual so no choice in that regard is necessary.  We can all choose whether or not to engage in unnatural behavior. 

So you can choose to be turned on by dudes?
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Re: Pastor Ted Haggard STILL Wants Your Money
« Reply #20 on: October 04, 2007, 06:09:33 PM »
Quote from: columbusdude82 on October 04, 2007, 02:36:46 PM
How do you know that? Maybe you were the one who convinced him to "choose" man-on-man action? Or do you know him personally?

I'm guessing you know why I asked the question now
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Re: Pastor Ted Haggard STILL Wants Your Money
« Reply #21 on: October 04, 2007, 06:12:42 PM »
Quote from: columbusdude82 on October 04, 2007, 06:04:58 PM
So you can choose to be turned on by dudes?

Of course you can.  Just like you can choose to have sex with animals.  Pedophiles choose to be turned on by kids. 
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Re: Pastor Ted Haggard STILL Wants Your Money
« Reply #22 on: October 04, 2007, 06:17:38 PM »
Quote from: Beach Bum on October 04, 2007, 06:12:42 PM
Of course you can.  Just like you can choose to have sex with animals.  Pedophiles choose to be turned on by kids. 
dude... ???
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Re: Pastor Ted Haggard STILL Wants Your Money
« Reply #23 on: October 04, 2007, 06:19:43 PM »
Quote from: Beach Bum on October 04, 2007, 06:12:42 PM
Of course you can.  Just like you can choose to have sex with animals.  Pedophiles choose to be turned on by kids. 

Dude, you are creeping me out!!! For real!!! You say you can choose to be turned on by dudes, animals, and children... I hope you are joking.
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Re: Pastor Ted Haggard STILL Wants Your Money
« Reply #24 on: October 04, 2007, 06:21:22 PM »
Quote from: columbusdude82 on October 04, 2007, 06:19:43 PM
Dude, you are creeping me out!!! For real!!! You say you can choose to be turned on by dudes, animals, and children... I hope you are joking.

he's not joking - proceed with being creeped out
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