sleep again

[davinci]

ok just an update, i know i made a thread like this already but its worse....... the insomnia. the doctor put me on rozerem and its not doing crap. had to pay 40 bucks for the scrip, now i guess im goin to go back and request lunesta....

yes im on right now and thats when it gets worse..... and i know someone mentioned its cause i work out at night but theres no other time for me to work out.....

4 and half hours sleep a night.... not good

[Obvious Gimmick]

i had a small bout with insomnia and the doc gave me ativan. Another doc shit a brick when I told him b/c ativan is a benzo which are highly addictive. but i was on like 1mg which is very small. anyway it helped me alot and i was not groggy at all the next day. They have so many different things now, I'm sure the doc will find something that works for you

[davinci]

i hope so, this hasnt been a small bout but more a thing thats been goin on for years. my sleep patterns are all messed up and they cant seem to get them back to normal. its same everynight, come home work out, im tired, i lay down, heart starts beating really hard then bam im awak till about midnight then i fall asleep, only to wake up at 430am to go to work....... saturday i waste almost all day sleeping.....

[Beener]

Warm milk?


Also don't jerk off before bed. I dunno when I was a teenager I'd always do that and it'd get me all wired and I couldn't sleep

[Overload]

i hope so, this hasnt been a small bout but more a thing thats been goin on for years. my sleep patterns are all messed up and they cant seem to get them back to normal. its same everynight, come home work out, im tired, i lay down, heart starts beating really hard then bam im awak till about midnight then i fall asleep, only to wake up at 430am to go to work....... saturday i waste almost all day sleeping.....

You have high anxiety. it usually gets worse as you lay in bed and have nothing to do but think. might be work related or gear related. all AAS raise my anxiety levels pretty quickly.

A sleep med is not the answer IMO and usually makes things worse, you need to learn to control your anxiety through relaxation techniques. just google relaxation techniques and learn to control your emotions, mind over matter.

i've been through what you are talking about for 10 years...valium worked great but i don't like to take meds in order to sleep. i'm fine now that i have learned how to relax my mind.

[davinci]

You have high anxiety. it usually gets worse as you lay in bed and have nothing to do but think. might be work related or gear related. all AAS raise my anxiety levels pretty quickly.

A sleep med is not the answer IMO and usually makes things worse, you need to learn to control your anxiety through relaxation techniques. just google relaxation techniques and learn to control your emotions, mind over matter.

i've been through what you are talking about for 10 years...valium worked great but i don't like to take meds in order to sleep. i'm fine now that i have learned how to relax my mind.

you are corrrect.... now that you mention taht that is exactly what happens, and my freind mentioned the other day his doctor told him reason he wasnt sleepin was b/c anxiety. gave him some low dose anti depressant medicine and he said he sleeps like a baby now.

[trab]

Watch the Benzo group. Great sleepers, but Killer With drawls - Litteraly.

Mix up the sleepy meds if you NEED go the chemical path. THat way no tollerance builds.
Benzos once a week only. Dont touch Narcotic for sleep, its for pain or cough only.

ALso - OTC - Mellatonin,
Benedryl, Chlorpheniramine maleate (Antihistimines)
 
Prescription - Clonidine, promethazine,skelaxin,cyclobenzaprine, Hydroxine, and of coures all Benzos and major Tranqulizers.

[emn1964]

Trazodone is your friend.  Ask for it by name!

[davinci]

currently i had been trying natural and switching through tylenol pm, sleepanol (both ingredients and unisom) i would rotate these and only use them if i was up past 11, now my doctor has me on ramelteon 8mg one before bed and im taking 4mg melatonin,, i took these at 8pm, i was tired when i got home its now 930 and im still dead tired but wide awake..........

[davinci]

ill give the relaxation thing a try to.... even the worry about not gettin sleep keeps me awake. who would of thougth i might have anxiety, i dotn really worry about much and my life is pretty good right now.. strange


and on anohter note man do we have alot of lurkers here on sihc... only 8 replies but 81 views in little over an hour lol

[trab]

Are you on Dbol? What AAS are you running? Some R worse than others.
YOu dont want a Prescription sleep med problem.
Switching anabolics makes more sense if thats the root cause.

[Overload]

I agree with Trab, try to stay away from Benzo's. i never had a problem with them but many people do. i only used Valium on rare occasions, i've had the original script bottle for years.

Try some tryptophan, you can buy it on the web pretty cheap. it didn't help me fall asleep faster but once i was asleep i stayed asleep until my alarm went of, which helps if you wake up alot during the night.

Benedryl works great as well and isn't habit forming from what i can tell.

Relaxation techniques will help you alot, even though you might not be worried about certain things doesn't mean your mind is at ease. at night is when my mind races the most for some reason but i do have a very high stress level job.

Good luck.

[trab]

I dont write contracts anymore, but when I did, I'd wake up suddenly at night remembering details
I left out. Many times a critical exclusion come to me in my sleep.

I'd keep a folder and pen and light in reach.

Ive used tryptophane before, its good. Try Vetrinary sources.

Watch that your not on DIFFERENT BENZOS - They all have cross tollerance.
A valium now and then is great for recovery sleep (2nd to none IMO), but go on a benzo run too far and you'll regret it.

[Overload]

I dont write contracts anymore, but when I did, I'd wake up suddenly at night remembering details
I left out. Many times a critical exclusion come to me in my sleep.

I'd keep a folder and pen and light in reach.

Ive used tryptophane before, its good. Try Vetrinary sources.

Watch that your not on DIFFERENT BENZOS - They all have cross tollerance.
A valium now and then is great for recovery sleep (2nd to none IMO), but go on a benzo run too far and you'll regret it.

Lol...my girl thinks i'm nuts because i keep my work schedule binder on my nightstand when i sleep. glad i'm not the only one.

[trab]

Lol...my girl thinks i'm nuts because i keep my work schedule binder on my nightstand when i sleep. glad i'm not the only one.

It's saved me some serious hits!
I've got up at like 2am from a dream and made major revisions many a time.
The joy of self-employ.
 
That crap sits and stews in our subconscious, dreams mix it up in ways our daytime mind cant.
I visualize a project as I bid, I'm very good at that and spacial relations. Thats the only thing that makes it so
I can play live stock charts, my math is not outstanding. Basic math and a calc will suffice if you have pattern recognition. High level math skills are a plus, but will not suffice alone w/ a fast changing chart.