Torture in America?

[Tre]

Should we stand for this?

[Eyeball Chambers]

We should give up any principles and rights we have as long as it keeps us safe.

[Fury]

Should we stand for this?

Why not? The haji scum torture in much worse ways than we do whenever they catch an American or a shia or Sunni. Why not return the favor?

[Hedgehog]

Definitely not.

Torture is barbaric.

We're not barbarians.

[MB_722]

dont you think that torture is looked down upon in the West. So then if we accepted these methods in our part of the world. Basically the terrorists have succeeded in their plan? Or western governments are actually in favour of this and this gives them grounds to do this type of thing. Not only to terrorists but to anyone.

I disagree with torture.

[Tre]

I agree with MB and Hedge.

If we act as savages, then we are no better than those we wish to look down upon. 

[Eyeball Chambers]

dont you think that torture is looked down upon in the West. So then if we accepted these methods in our part of the world. Basically the terrorists have succeeded in their plan? Or western governments are actually in favour of this and this gives them grounds to do this type of thing. Not only to terrorists but to anyone.

I disagree with torture.

Nice post, I agree.

[chaos]

Definitely not.

Torture is barbaric.

We're not barbarians.

you don't have a say, you're not American.

I think in some cases, what must be done, must be done....don't ask don't tell,of a different kind.

[Eyeball Chambers]

Won't be surprised when our government decides to officially torture American citizens if needed as well.

[JBGRAY]

It already happens, though not completely outright perpetuated by our government.  What do you think happens inside our prisons?  How many more tazer incidents do we need to have?  How many more people with 20+ bullets inside of them do we need to see?

[chaos]

It already happens, though not completely outright perpetuated by our government.  What do you think happens inside our prisons?  How many more tazer incidents do we need to have?  How many more people with 20+ bullets inside of them do we need to see?

alot

[wolfhound25]

Why not be barbaric its called WAR. if information we get from a person tortured saves an american life its worth it. the torture person would be killed anyway might as well get somthing out of it. some torture that we do doesnt even envolve violence. it is psychological.

[Tre]

I don't living in a war zone, my friend.

[Hugo Chavez]

you don't have a say, you're not American.

I think in some cases, what must be done, must be done....don't ask don't tell,of a different kind.

Well I think that gives him a say, since we're torturing citizens of other countries

[headhuntersix]

Its not like this is new...Pershing used to sew up Jihidist nutbags in pig carcases during the Philipine insurrection. At some point we need to get past our political correctness and realize that these people are a major threat.

[Hugo Chavez]

Its not like this is new...Pershing used to sew up Jihidist nutbags in pig carcases during the Philipine insurrection. At some point we need to get past our political correctness and realize that these people are a major threat.

Major threat, yea right... sure... if you say so...

[headhuntersix]

Islamic nutbags are a major threat, what have u missed in the last 30 years says that they're not.

[Straw Man]

It's kind of hard to call torture in-humane when we're willing to actually kill the same people with bombs or cut them in half with machine gun or burn them to death with white phosphorus

on the the other hand - it seems most experts believe the torture does not yield good intel anyway so what's the real purpose?

[24KT]

It's kind of hard to call torture in-humane when we're willing to actually kill the same people with bombs or cut them in half with machine gun or burn them to death with white phosphorus

on the the other hand - it seems most experts believe the torture does not yield good intel anyway so what's the real purpose?

So Neotaints can get a woody. it's the only way they can get off!

[Straw Man]

So Neotaints can get a woody. it's the only way they can get off!

I wouldn't doubt it - something about homosexual sadism seems to strike a nerve with a certain segment of the Republican party. 

[headhuntersix]

Ok Jag....I wasn't sure when we decided to begin to torture people...I guess we decided to do it when Bush was elected. It was all his idea to begin to torture people. It had nothing to do with 911 or Islamic terrorists, because they are a Bush invention. U really need to get past the neo con bullshit. they'll be gone in 2 years and we'll still have islamic terrorists killing innocent people, much like they have for years. Much like they have been killing Canadian troops since 2001.

[wolfhound25]

I don't living in a war zone, my friend.

Thanks to soldiers

[wolfhound25]

Won't be surprised when our government decides to officially torture American citizens if needed as well.

if needed thats fine. what are you considering an American citizen? someone who comes in over the border and gets his right to sue? we need to tighten up. i think if people out of high school had a mandatory 2 years in the military before what to do with their life it would help the country allot. most country's have this.we also need to crack down on people, they steal cut off a hand and ex-setera. If you want freedom someone has to fight for it, please dont forget that.

[Decker]

It seems strange that in this day and age people have to be told that "torture is wrong".

When one tortures another that puts you in this select company:

The Nazis

The Mafia

Red China

Soviet Union

What do those have in common?  They are our enemies.

Come on, do I have to explain that we are the good guys and that we put the bad guys away... you know--the torturers

There is no honor in those that torture.

[MB_722]

terrorists don't have to do anything to destroy western civilization.

There plan is for us to destroy ourselves. Seems to be working, yes it is psychological