Author Topic: What is the natural limit? (Read 2193 times)

Wanocki · « **on:** October 07, 2007, 08:29:46 PM »

if a guy trains, diets, and lives bodybuilding 24/7 how long until he reaches his potential and can't build muscle without drugs? how many years?

Deicide · « **Reply #1 on:** October 07, 2007, 08:30:55 PM »

Quote from: Wanocki on October 07, 2007, 08:29:46 PM

if a guy trains, diets, and lives bodybuilding 24/7 how long until he reaches his potential and can't build muscle without drugs? how many years?

The question seems so general and taylored to the individual that it cannot be answered...

Bast000 · « **Reply #2 on:** October 07, 2007, 08:31:34 PM »

I would say 5-6

Wanocki · « **Reply #3 on:** October 07, 2007, 08:34:00 PM »

Quote from: Trapezkerl on October 07, 2007, 08:30:55 PM

The question seems so general and taylored to the individual that it cannot be answered...

ok how about the average everyday 18 year old kid that starts out at about 150 pounds and 12-17% bodyfat. If he lives for bodybuilding how many years until he reaches his peak?

The_Leafy_Bug · « **Reply #4 on:** October 07, 2007, 08:35:41 PM »

How many licks to the center of a tootsie pop? I don't know. There are so many variables you are leaving out. That's like asking how long you are going to live if you live a healthy life.

Wanocki · « **Reply #5 on:** October 07, 2007, 08:40:39 PM »

Quote from: The_Leafy_Bug on October 07, 2007, 08:35:41 PM

How many licks to the center of a tootsie pop? I don't know. There are so many variables you are leaving out. That's like asking how long you are going to live if you live a healthy life.

what other variables? fill in the blanks please

peroni · « **Reply #6 on:** October 07, 2007, 08:46:44 PM »

Quote from: Wanocki on October 07, 2007, 08:34:00 PM

ok how about the average everyday 18 year old kid that starts out at about 150 pounds and 12-17% bodyfat. If he lives for bodybuilding how many years until he reaches his peak?

you're asking a bunch of meatheads (myself included) a ridiculous question that couldn't even be answered by a doctor and a genetic profiler combined.
Do your best and see where it takes you like the rest of us

Eric2 · « **Reply #7 on:** October 07, 2007, 08:47:41 PM »

Why don't you just do the honest hard effort and get it done and find out for yourself.

Wanocki · « **Reply #8 on:** October 07, 2007, 08:50:43 PM »

so questions can't be asked here?

Bast000 · « **Reply #9 on:** October 07, 2007, 08:53:05 PM »

Quote from: Wanocki on October 07, 2007, 08:50:43 PM

so questions can't be asked here?

you have made an ass out of yourself.

Wanocki · « **Reply #10 on:** October 07, 2007, 08:54:35 PM »

Quote from: Bast000 on October 07, 2007, 08:53:05 PM

you have made an ass out of yourself.

says the only guy that answered the question

making an ass out of yourself would be posting a pic of your penis

The Coach · « **Reply #11 on:** October 07, 2007, 08:55:21 PM »

Quote from: Wanocki on October 07, 2007, 08:29:46 PM

if a guy trains, diets, and lives bodybuilding 24/7 how long until he reaches his potential and can't build muscle without drugs? how many years?

Ask Gustavo!

Bast000 · « **Reply #12 on:** October 07, 2007, 08:55:58 PM »

Quote from: Wanocki on October 07, 2007, 08:54:35 PM

says the only guy that answered the question making an ass out of yourself would be posting a pic of your penis

exactly. i answered the question, case closed.

Wanocki · « **Reply #13 on:** October 07, 2007, 08:58:47 PM »

Quote from: Bast000 on October 07, 2007, 08:55:58 PM

exactly. i answered the question, case closed.

so no more opinions are allowed?

Disgusted · « **Reply #14 on:** October 07, 2007, 08:59:18 PM »

Pretty much this.

The Coach · « **Reply #15 on:** October 07, 2007, 09:00:05 PM »

Quote from: Disgusted on October 07, 2007, 08:59:18 PM

Pretty much this.

Dude's shredded

PANDAEMONIUM · « **Reply #16 on:** October 07, 2007, 09:02:52 PM »

Quote from: Wanocki on October 07, 2007, 08:58:47 PM

so no more opinions are allowed?

No.

Disgusted · « **Reply #17 on:** October 07, 2007, 09:07:08 PM »

Quote from: The Coach on October 07, 2007, 09:00:05 PM

Dude's shredded

Can you imagine what he would look like after a couple cycles?

SteelePegasus · « **Reply #18 on:** October 07, 2007, 09:07:53 PM »

take 10,000 and give them all the same basketball training and probably 2 or 3 would turn out to be as good as michael jordan

take 10,000 people and train them in the gym and probably 2-3 would produce something truly amazing..
the others would give varying amount of success..

I could train until kingdom come I will probably never press 405
but I am know there are nattys out there at my weight pressing that with ease..

your question is too open ended to answer

The Coach · « **Reply #19 on:** October 07, 2007, 09:09:08 PM »

Quote from: Disgusted on October 07, 2007, 09:07:08 PM

Can you imagine what he would look like after a couple cycles?

He looks like he's been eating eggs, chicken, veggies, red meat, protien drinks and a little peanut butter

youandme · « **Reply #20 on:** October 07, 2007, 09:09:46 PM »

In life a plateua is non existent. It resembles more of a yerkes dodson law.

Hope this helped in your life quest

Disgusted · « **Reply #21 on:** October 07, 2007, 09:10:26 PM »

Quote from: The Coach on October 07, 2007, 09:09:08 PM

He looks like he's been eating eggs, chicken, veggies, red meat, protien drinks and a little peanut butter

haha yeah but with plenty of meth on the side.

tommywishbone · « **Reply #22 on:** October 07, 2007, 09:12:39 PM »

All hail Mr. Pop!

tommywishbone · « **Reply #23 on:** October 07, 2007, 09:13:44 PM »

Quote from: Disgusted on October 07, 2007, 09:10:26 PM

haha yeah but with plenty of meth on the side.

You can't prove that!

Wait... perhaps you can.

GreatFinn · « **Reply #24 on:** October 08, 2007, 09:56:26 AM »

Quote from: Wanocki on October 07, 2007, 08:34:00 PM

ok how about the average everyday 18 year old kid that starts out at about 150 pounds and 12-17% bodyfat. If he lives for bodybuilding how many years until he reaches his peak?

15 years, if he do all he can but doesn't use drugs. 15 years just training, eating, no smoke, no alcohol, no nothing else that perfect diet and training day after day with 5/7/52 cycle.