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Ben Johnson beating Carl Lewis. So what if he was using Winstrol....
« on: October 08, 2007, 06:58:23 AM »
Don't know why everyone made such a big deal...what would have been interesting would be Carl Lewis on steroids vs. Ben...

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Re: Ben Johnson beating Carl Lewis. So what if he was using Winstrol....
« Reply #1 on: October 08, 2007, 07:12:05 AM »
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Re: Ben Johnson beating Carl Lewis. So what if he was using Winstrol....
« Reply #2 on: October 08, 2007, 07:19:23 AM »
Carl wasn't natural either...

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Re: Ben Johnson beating Carl Lewis. So what if he was using Winstrol....
« Reply #3 on: October 08, 2007, 07:35:02 AM »
Quote from: Overload on October 08, 2007, 07:19:23 AM
Carl wasn't natural either...

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He likes to claim that though...
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Re: Ben Johnson beating Carl Lewis. So what if he was using Winstrol....
« Reply #4 on: October 08, 2007, 07:35:58 AM »
Quote from: Overload on October 08, 2007, 07:19:23 AM
Carl wasn't natural either...

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This. Your Colorado testing center was much better at giving athletes their clearance times. I assume it still is.  :-\
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Re: Ben Johnson beating Carl Lewis. So what if he was using Winstrol....
« Reply #5 on: October 08, 2007, 07:40:29 AM »
With top the athletes and millions of dollars involved, the question isn't whether he was natural or not. It is whether he is able to pass the test and not leave incriminating documentable evidence around.
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Re: Ben Johnson beating Carl Lewis. So what if he was using Winstrol....
« Reply #6 on: October 08, 2007, 07:43:43 AM »
Question for someone in the know.

since olympic athletes are given blood test and some of the blood is/are warehoused. What happens if a test in the future reveal anomallies?


would they remove someone's name from the record book for something that is say 20 years old?
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Re: Ben Johnson beating Carl Lewis. So what if he was using Winstrol....
« Reply #7 on: October 08, 2007, 07:55:08 AM »
cARL WAS ON AS MANY GOODIES IF NOT MORE THAN BEN...one OF THE BIGGEST HYPOCRISIES IN THE HISTORY OF SPORTS . bEN WILL ALWAYS BE MY 100 M IDOL.
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Re: Ben Johnson beating Carl Lewis. So what if he was using Winstrol....
« Reply #8 on: October 08, 2007, 08:05:02 AM »
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Ben johnson tells all that he is a cheater...Guy doesn't seem to bright at all....Didn't listen to his advisors and ran the sauce past the point of detection..
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Re: Ben Johnson beating Carl Lewis. So what if he was using Winstrol....
« Reply #9 on: October 08, 2007, 08:12:33 AM »
Quote from: Trapezkerl on October 08, 2007, 07:35:02 AM
He likes to claim that though...

Several Team members from his college days told coaches he was using steroids. The coaches told them to never mention that again if they wanted to play for U of H.

ALL athletes juice, some just get caught while others get away with it. it happens in every sport and has been for 50 years. this is why i hate it when a guy gets busted for using and everyone pisses on him, sure Ben cheated(on a level playing field) but he's only an asshole because he got caught.


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Re: Ben Johnson beating Carl Lewis. So what if he was using Winstrol....
« Reply #10 on: October 08, 2007, 08:57:08 AM »
years back a couple of retired drug testing officials tried to come out about Lewis failing tests and the tests being ignored...Of course no one listened to them..
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Re: Ben Johnson beating Carl Lewis. So what if he was using Winstrol....
« Reply #11 on: October 08, 2007, 09:24:39 AM »
Quote from: HUTCH on October 08, 2007, 08:57:08 AM
years back a couple of retired drug testing officials tried to come out about Lewis failing tests and the tests being ignored...Of course no one listened to them..

The book ; " Speed Trap" by Ben Johnson's coach Charlie Francis, goes into great detail on this .
Ben was guilty of useing a fair amount of drugs , however , that is the norm with world class sprinters.
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Re: Ben Johnson beating Carl Lewis. So what if he was using Winstrol....
« Reply #12 on: October 08, 2007, 10:00:07 AM »
Quote from: SteelePegasus on October 08, 2007, 07:43:43 AM
Question for someone in the know.

since olympic athletes are given blood test and some of the blood is/are warehoused. What happens if a test in the future reveal anomallies?


would they remove someone's name from the record book for something that is say 20 years old?

These are really good questions. I think that is where the testing protocols are heading. I would assume tho the masking agents will try to take this into account. How successful they are remains to be seen.
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Re: Ben Johnson beating Carl Lewis. So what if he was using Winstrol....
« Reply #13 on: October 08, 2007, 10:05:43 AM »
Quote from: HUTCH on October 08, 2007, 08:57:08 AM
years back a couple of retired drug testing officials tried to come out about Lewis failing tests and the tests being ignored...Of course no one listened to them..

a football player test positive for a "band substance" and he gets a 4 game suspension and generally the news paper/media ignores it

a baseball player test positive and the world stops, same for track and field. So far the NBA has been given a pass on this as well, same for college football
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Re: Ben Johnson beating Carl Lewis. So what if he was using Winstrol....
« Reply #14 on: October 08, 2007, 10:52:42 AM »
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Re: Ben Johnson beating Carl Lewis. So what if he was using Winstrol....
« Reply #15 on: October 08, 2007, 09:05:18 PM »
What side of the moon did we land on?
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