Heaven

[Nordic Superman]

What does the bible say about heaven when contrasting with islam?

For example, I would assume any religion's heaven being void of material goods and human desires?

However, islams "heaven" is benefitted by wine that doesn't get you drunk, 72 virgins, 300 young boys like pearls, glasses made of silver (transparent silver!). On the trees with grow any fruit you desire and the tree itself will bring it to you as you desire. You can have anything you desire.

Surely heaven should be on another level than this materialism islams "heaven" promotes. You know, void of this worlds desires.

Why would God ploy people with materialistic shit? Isn't that the job of satan?

Your views welcome, but I understand if you're too cowardice to criticise islam

[haider]

too "cowardice"


You're still a douche I see.

[loco]

1 Corinthians 2:9
However, as it is written:
   "No eye has seen,
      no ear has heard,
   no mind has conceived
   what God has prepared for those who love him"

Matthew 22:30
At the resurrection people will neither marry nor be given in marriage; they will be like the angels in heaven.

Revelation 21:4
He will wipe every tear from their eyes. There will be no more death or mourning or crying or pain, for the old order of things has passed away."

[Nordic Superman]

too "cowardice"

You're still a douche I see.

You're still a sheep I see: http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=171159.0

You boy gets owned! Plus you follow a religion that promotes materialism in heaven.

Allah = Satan

Thanks loco, interesting. Is there any reference to heaven + materialism in the bible?

[haider]

haha let's not go down this road again, nord. I only called you a douche, I didnt ask you to prove it 

[Butterbean]

Revelation 22:3
No longer will there be any curse. The throne of God and of the Lamb will be in the city, and his servants will serve him.


Luke 20:36
and they can no longer die; for they are like the angels. They are God's children, since they are children of the resurrection.


Revelation 7:16, 17
Never again will they hunger;
never again will they thirst.
The sun will not beat upon them,
nor any scorching heat.
For the Lamb at the center of the throne will be their shepherd;
he will lead them to springs of living water.
And God will wipe away every tear from their eyes.


Revelation 15:2
And I saw what looked like a sea of glass mixed with fire and, standing beside the sea, those who had been victorious over the beast and his image and over the number of his name. They held harps given them by God


Revelation 21:25
no day will its gates ever be shut, for there will be no night there.


Revelation 22:5   
5There will be no more night. They will not need the light of a lamp or the light of the sun, for the Lord God will give them light. And they will reign for ever and ever.

[Nordic Superman]

haha let's not go down this road again, nord. I only called you a douche, I didnt ask you to prove it 

Hahaha, touche

STella, "Revelation 22:3", who are the servants?

[Butterbean]

Hahaha, touche

STella, "Revelation 22:3", who are the servants?

I'm pretty sure believers are the servants.

Here is the surrounding text w/more Heaven info:

Revelation 22:1-6

Then the angel showed me the river of the water of life, as clear as crystal, flowing from the throne of God and of the Lamb down the middle of the great street of the city. On each side of the river stood the tree of life, bearing twelve crops of fruit, yielding its fruit every month. And the leaves of the tree are for the healing of the nations. No longer will there be any curse. The throne of God and of the Lamb will be in the city, and his servants will serve him. They will see his face, and his name will be on their foreheads. There will be no more night. They will not need the light of a lamp or the light of the sun, for the Lord God will give them light. And they will reign for ever and ever. The angel said to me, "These words are trustworthy and true. The Lord, the God of the spirits of the prophets, sent his angel to show his servants the things that must soon take place

[OzmO]

I think that even though we as people have spent our adult lives with the urge to fornicate repeatedly, avoiding to sing in groups and most of us not knowing how to play a musical instrument or even wanting to, we will spend time in heaven:

Never having sex again, Singing hymms constantly, And playing a harp for all eternity.   Boy i can't wait!   


Of course the hymn we will be singing will be entitled:  "I told you so"   

[loco]

I think that even though we as people have spent our adult lives with the urge to fornicate repeatedly, avoiding to sing in groups and most of us not knowing how to play a musical instrument or even wanting to, we will spend time in heaven:

Never having sex again, Singing hymms constantly, And playing a harp for all eternity.   Boy i can't wait!   


Of course the hymn we will be singing will be entitled:  "I told you so"   

Then you should become a Muslim.

[Deicide]

too "cowardice"


You're still a douche I see.

English isn't his first language, give him a break.

[Deicide]

Folks, we are adults.

Or maybe not.

Playtime kids!

[OzmO]

Then you should become a Muslim.

Well,  i would but the gender of the "72 virgins" isn't specified.   I could end up with 72 harry guys who never got laid while on earth.

So I'm sticking with my harp. 

[Deicide]

Well,  i would but the gender of the "72 virgins" isn't specified.   I could end up with 72 harry guys who never got laid while on earth.

So I'm sticking with my harp. 

It's not 72 virgins, it's 72 white raisins:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/saturday_review/story/0,,631332,00.html

[Nordic Superman]

Then you should become a Muslim.

haha

Well,  i would but the gender of the "72 virgins" isn't specified.   I could end up with 72 harry guys who never got laid while on earth.

So I'm sticking with my harp. 

Are you sure the virgins are not described as women? I know that they ay get 300 young boys like pearls.

[Butterbean]

Are you sure the virgins are not described as women?

That's an interesting question.  Does it state they are women?

I know that they ay get 300 young boys like pearls.

I've never heard of this part.  What does "like pearls" mean and are the young boys to be like servants or something?

[Nordic Superman]

I assume women from:

Koran 78:31
As for the righteous, they shall surely triumph. Theirs shall be gardens and vineyards, and high-bosomed virgins for companions: a truly overflowing cup.

About the boys:

Koran 52:24
Round about them will serve, to them, boys (handsome) as pearls well-guarded.

Koran 56:17
Round about them will serve boys of perpetual freshness.

I see homosexual overtones here.

Koran 52.24
And there shall wait on them [the Muslim men] young boys of their own, as fair as virgin pearls.

Koran 76.19
They shall be attended by boys graced with eternal youth, who will seem like scattered pearls to the beholders.

Mohammed wanted to ensure that his followers would not be obsessed with 'worldly things' in this life. So he made sure that they have plenty of worldly things to pursue in heaven.

Koran 22:23
As for those who have faith and who do good work, God will admit them to gardens watered by running streams. They shall be decked with pearls and bracelets of gold, and arrayed in garments of silk.

[Butterbean]

Thanks for that info Nordic Superman.

[OzmO]

Maybe Haggard should become muslim   

[haider]

Maybe Haggard should become muslim   

[Nordic Superman]

Don't you have anything to say regarding the materialistic nature of islams "heaven" haider?

[haider]

Don't you have anything to say regarding the materialistic nature of islams "heaven" haider?

not wasting time on you bro, so no. However, if someone like Stella asks, I may answer. Or a change in attitude, which seems impossible so im gonna cross it out.

[Nordic Superman]

not wasting time on you bro, so no. However, if someone like Stella asks, I may answer. Or a change in attitude, which seems impossible so im gonna cross it out.

Defeated.

[haider]

Defeated.

Get some lube for the mental masturbation? 

[Deicide]

Get some lube for the mental masturbation? 

I am still not clear as to your religious affiliations; are you or are you not a Muslim?