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The Fight Network has just reported that Randy Couture has quit the promotion, vacating his heavyweight title and leaving his job as a color commentator.

Couture, who works for The Fight Network itself, so there is no way they are going to miss on this story, wrote a letter from South Africa where he's filming the Scorpion King movie, to Dana White.

Not getting a match with Fedor Emelianenko played a part in his decision. The decision was made when it became clear the match with Fedor wasn't happening.

It is known Couture was one of the top UFC fighters who was unhappy when reading about the huge money guaranteed in the company's offers to Emelianenko, because he felt he and a few others were the fighters who helped build the current popularity and they weren't getting guaranteed income for fights anywhere near that level, particularly since they were bigger drawing cards.
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Re: Breaking News: Randy Couture Quits The UFC
« Reply #1 on: October 11, 2007, 01:38:47 PM »
Again the Super brings you the latest news - first - to the MMA board!

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the face of the Ultimate Fighting Championship and one of mixed martial arts most revered fighters, notified the UFC via fax from South Africa at 11 o'clock Thursday morning that he has chosen to resign from the UFC, "The Natural" confirmed with Sherdog.com.

"I sent the letter of resignation to the UFC today, resigning not only from my position in the company as a commentator and as an ambassador, but also as the heavyweight champion," Couture said over the phone from South Africa, where he is currently filming a movie.

"The motivation for the decision is two-fold," he continued. "I know Fedor (Emelianenko) just signed with another organization and that's the only real fight that makes sense for me at 44 years old as the heavyweight champion of the UFC. That's the fight I wanted and if that can't happen it doesn't make sense for me to compete with all these other guys. And then obviously that's not going to happen now. And, two, I'm tired of being taken advantage of, played as the nice guy and basically swimming against the current with the management of the UFC. I have a lot of other things going on in my life that I'm doing just fine with. I don't need the problems. I don't feel like I get the respect I deserve from the organization, and that's motivation No. 2 for the letter of resignation that was sent today."

Couture (16-8) is the only fighter in UFC history to hold belts in two weight divisions. The current UFC heavyweight champion, he recaptured the belt in March by coming out of retirement to out-point Tim Sylvia (Pictures). Couture defended the title in August, stopping challenger Gabriel Gonzaga (Pictures) in the third round.

The Sylvia win came after a year away from the sport after Couture suffered the second of two knockouts to then UFC light heavyweight champion Chuck Liddell (Pictures). Couture won the first bout in the trilogy by capturing an interim UFC light heavyweight title in June of 2003, stopping Liddell in the third period.

Couture's ledger in the UFC reads like a who's who. "The Natural" first captured UFC heavyweight gold against Maurice Smith (Pictures) in 1997 before doing it for the third time against Sylvia in 2007.

A day after news broke that Fedor Emelianenko (Pictures), the widely regarded top heavyweight in the sport, had apparently declined to sign with the UFC, Couture submitted his resignation.

"I want that fight and would have waited if the fight was offered to me," Couture said. "Knowing what they offered him, I would have made demands to get paid equally or better than him as the champion. Whether or not those would have been met is another question."

Couture will have to wait nine months for his current UFC deal to lapse before he can go after Emelianenko. Over that span Couture said he will concentrate on acting, continuing to franchise his Xtreme Couture training facilities, as well as growing his Xtreme Couture clothing line.

His success outside the ring is proof of his success inside the Octagon. But Couture said it was a lack of respect by the UFC, in particular its president Dana White, that led him to resigning.

"I think the final straw for me was meeting with Dana and Lorenzo where they claimed I was the No. 2 paid athlete in the organization, which I know is a bold-faced lie," Couture said. Polling other athletes, said Couture, he learned that his compensation -- some $250,000 a fight with pay-per-view bonuses, according to the Couture camp -- was nowhere near what other top UFC fighters were making.

"All us athletes are all pretty tightly intertwined," he said. "You hear what other guys were paid signing bonuses and what other guys were paid on the record and off the record with bonuses. I've heard Chuck's numbers. Tito's numbers. Hughes' numbers. Quinton's numbers. Cro Cop, Wanderlei. I heard what they were offering Fedor, and it's insulting."

Couture's rocky history with the Zuffa-owned UFC began in 2001.

"I think what set us off on the wrong foot was that my management [at the time] wasn't willing to give up ancillary rights across the board with no option for some sort of compensation," said Couture, alluding to a reason cited by Emelianenko's representatives as to why the Russian did not end up with the UFC. "All the other athletes at that time were signing those contracts. That created a lot of animosity and got me pulled out of the Carmen Electra campaigns to promote the athletes and the sport and the video game and all that stuff."

Beyond the money, both Couture and his wife Kim stressed Thursday's resignation from the UFC was about respect. It's a move "The Natural" acknowledged could have far-reaching effects.

"Certainly there's personal motivation for resigning and taking stand for myself," he said. "If it sets a precedence that down the road requires athletes to be treated better than that's icing on the cake."

Attempts to reach the UFC for comment went unreturned.
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Re: Breaking News: Randy Couture Quits The UFC
« Reply #2 on: October 11, 2007, 02:07:26 PM »
Hate to break the news to you, big guy, but this was all over the UG before you splashed it here.  So if this is the only information source for some, then you did do something of merit. 

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Re: Breaking News: Randy Couture Quits The UFC
« Reply #3 on: October 11, 2007, 02:11:15 PM »
if this is the only information source for some, then you did do something of merit. 

Thanks. That's the idea.
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Re: Breaking News: Randy Couture Quits The UFC
« Reply #4 on: October 11, 2007, 02:15:02 PM »
Why couldn't Fedor and UFC come to an agreement? What was Fedor's sticking point? Money? What?
The answer is "yes".

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Re: Breaking News: Randy Couture Quits The UFC
« Reply #5 on: October 11, 2007, 02:36:33 PM »
Why couldn't Fedor and UFC come to an agreement? What was Fedor's sticking point? Money? What?

Fedor is the best Sambo fighter on the planet for years now. He wanted to do the Sambo championships in Russia each year as well as something else if I recall and they wouldn't let him. So he signed with M1.



THERE'S A NEW BIG DOG IN TOWN!!!! Let's see what Cuban has up his sleeve. This is exciting. hahahaha, can't believe Randy resigned either. Good shit. I'd love to see the UFC empire torn down.

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Re: Breaking News: Randy Couture Quits The UFC
« Reply #6 on: October 11, 2007, 02:39:19 PM »
Fedor is the best Sambo fighter on the planet for years now. He wanted to do the Sambo championships in Russia each year as well as something else if I recall and they wouldn't let him. So he signed with M1.



THERE'S A NEW BIG DOG IN TOWN!!!! Let's see what Cuban has up his sleeve. This is exciting. hahahaha, can't believe Randy resigned either. Good shit. I'd love to see the UFC empire torn down.

I hope that Cuban isn't in bed with Vince McMahon like it has been alluded to. 

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Re: Breaking News: Randy Couture Quits The UFC
« Reply #7 on: October 11, 2007, 02:42:06 PM »
I hope that Cuban isn't in bed with Vince McMahon like it has been alluded to. 

Cuban is a die hard sports fan and an amazing businessman. He respects every player on the Mavericks and has turned that team into the NBA's most valuable franchise. I'm sure he's going to work his magic with M1. He also owns the Continental Airlines arena or whatever the Mavs home court is, so he should be able to hold events there for chump change.

I'm just hoping they go with Pride rules outside of the US for their events.  :o


Either way, it's intriguing. I'd love to see Cuban kill the UFC.

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Re: Breaking News: Randy Couture Quits The UFC
« Reply #8 on: October 11, 2007, 02:46:59 PM »
I think he will, Everything he does puts full investment into....didnt he just buy something else big to though???? Like the chi cubs???? What big free agents are out there for him to still get???? Franks Shamrock(Only had 2 fights on his contract and he fought um already)Would like to see him fight unsigned Dennis Kang in M1's first p.p. View...

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Re: Breaking News: Randy Couture Quits The UFC
« Reply #9 on: October 11, 2007, 02:50:07 PM »
Randy is right, he got f*cked!  Chuck last year got between $3-400k per fight including cash bonuses and he got a brand new F430 Ferrari Spider that was purchased by Dana for $320k as a "gift" along with other mortgage payment "gifts"!  Don't believe me, go to San Luis and see for yourself!

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Re: Breaking News: Randy Couture Quits The UFC
« Reply #10 on: October 11, 2007, 02:52:59 PM »
I here there's talk that M1's negoitating deals to sign KIMBO,Monson & K. Randleman, I hope they don't consider them Top Material for Fedor(even though randleman did put one of the best suplex's ever on him)

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Re: Breaking News: Randy Couture Quits The UFC
« Reply #11 on: October 11, 2007, 02:53:05 PM »
Randy meant a LOT to UFC's success over the years. Big mistake to fuck him.
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Re: Breaking News: Randy Couture Quits The UFC
« Reply #12 on: October 11, 2007, 02:55:12 PM »
Randy meant a LOT to UFC's success over the years. Big mistake to fuck him.

After all this is Vegas and Vegas was built on one thing from day 1 and now....





















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Re: Breaking News: Randy Couture Quits The UFC
« Reply #13 on: October 11, 2007, 02:55:39 PM »
I say Fedor and Couture still end up fighting, just will be at least a yr from now,and its if fedor stays undefeated long enough for couture to finish his movie and be out of the ufc legal mumbo jumbo...

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Re: Breaking News: Randy Couture Quits The UFC
« Reply #14 on: October 11, 2007, 02:57:25 PM »
He should fight NOG and then call it quits....they were suppose to meet in the RINGS tourney.... only Randy had to mess up by losing to a can.  >:(

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Re: Breaking News: Randy Couture Quits The UFC
« Reply #15 on: October 11, 2007, 02:57:54 PM »
   
Breaking News: Randy Couture Quits The UFC

who knows maybe randy has plans of shippin over to M-1 also which is gonna give that organization More credibility fresh out of the gate,either way the UFC heavies are gonna be clouded wondering if they really do have a true champion with randy leaving .

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Re: Breaking News: Randy Couture Quits The UFC
« Reply #16 on: October 11, 2007, 03:01:30 PM »
who knows maybe randy has plans of shippin over to M-1 also which is gonna give that organization More credibility fresh out of the gate,either way the UFC heavies are gonna be clouded wondering if they really do have a true champion with randy leaving .

I don't know much about M-1 or what kinda financial muscle they have behind them, but I do think that some competition will only be healthy for the sport and there can always be "superfights" arranged between competing organizations  8)

As long as there's not a dozen different federations, rules, weightclasses like in Boxing - MMA should be fine.
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Re: Breaking News: Randy Couture Quits The UFC
« Reply #17 on: October 11, 2007, 03:04:26 PM »
I dont think he can fight in M1 right away because he has to wait a certain time, to fight anywhere else, cuz he still had two fights left in ufc, and hes in the middle of filming the new scorpian king movie,but hell i dunno im no lawyer....and i belive c.kongo and nog have already agreed to fight, so that would have put that fight out a good while for randy.....but  with Mark Cuban on bored running M1 they have the finances to steal alot of peeps, but i think cuban knows buisness and will most likely buy out the other organizations as well(elitexc,bodog etc.) to try and setup a powerhouse

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Re: Breaking News: Randy Couture Quits The UFC
« Reply #18 on: October 11, 2007, 03:12:00 PM »
I don't know much about M-1 or what kinda financial muscle they have behind them, but I do think that some competition will only be healthy for the sport and there can always be "superfights" arranged between competing organizations  8)

As long as there's not a dozen different federations, rules, weightclasses like in Boxing - MMA should be fine.

I think contractually the only chance of super fights is if one fighter leaves either organization with a title and goes over to the other organization, like in this case randy (if he's allowed to fight in m-1) or in the case of Hendo as pride became history....

I kind of doubt we'll see much "inter organization" fights with guys under active contracts because it's totally a conflict of interest between dana and whoever this M-1 guy is (I'm assuming cuban at this point)

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Re: Breaking News: Randy Couture Quits The UFC
« Reply #19 on: October 11, 2007, 03:15:17 PM »
I'm hoping for something like back in 2003 when Chuck went over to Pride to fight Overeem and Rampage.
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Re: Breaking News: Randy Couture Quits The UFC
« Reply #20 on: October 11, 2007, 03:37:08 PM »
(UPDATE)
White responded to Couture’s retirement saying, “I’m not surprised at all by Randy’s decision. I talked to Randy several weeks ago and he said that if he couldn’t fight Fedor, then he has nothing left to prove in the sport of mixed martial arts.

“He has been doing a lot of acting, and I know he is in South Africa right now filming a movie. I think it’s a great move for Randy’s acting career to retire from fighting while he is on top.

“As we all know, Randy retired before. The landscape in MMA changes every day. So when he is ready to come out of retirement again, he is still under contract with me, and I’m ready to promote him.”

Haney said that Couture “is very excited to embark on a promising career in acting” and that “he’s currently shooting a lead role in Universal’s ‘The Scorpion King – The Rise of the Akkadian’ in South Africa and has more offers on the table.”
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Re: Breaking News: Randy Couture Quits The UFC UPDATED!!! Dana responds!
« Reply #21 on: October 11, 2007, 03:39:18 PM »
the biggest thing i see is that randy said hes "resigning" from the UFC. didnt say he was retiring from fighting.
im guessing he goes and fights elsewhere.

either way..big loss for the UFC
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Re: Breaking News: Randy Couture Quits The UFC UPDATED!!! Dana responds!
« Reply #22 on: October 11, 2007, 03:46:49 PM »
In Translation I think he meant, im not suprised at all the randy couture realized I have been abosultley fucking him on $, and getting top competitors for him to fight, and Im gonna keep the door wide open in hopes that one day again I can fuck him over  in the future, and hopefully he will have made good money doing movies and wont care,so will come and fight anyway....In turn making me richer*without dishing the dough as usual...

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Re: Breaking News: Randy Couture Quits The UFC UPDATED!!! Dana responds!
« Reply #23 on: October 11, 2007, 03:49:45 PM »
Clearly Dana has some money to spend... he should've distributed it better... Cro Cop comes to mind
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Re: Breaking News: Randy Couture Quits The UFC UPDATED!!! Dana responds!
« Reply #24 on: October 11, 2007, 04:05:26 PM »
Think Chuck Liddell comes to mind too. All those years spent building him up and what does he do once the UFC hits mainstream? Gets wrecked twice. Talk about a poor business investment!