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Re: Al gore wins Nobal peace prize!!!!
« Reply #25 on: October 13, 2007, 01:01:06 AM »
Ok split hairs. Bush's War Machine has resulted 650,000 Iraqi deaths. Thus, Bush is ultimately responsibe for every death.  

Propaganda. 

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Re: Al gore wins Nobal peace prize!!!!
« Reply #26 on: October 13, 2007, 09:42:04 AM »
http://www.americanthinker.com/2007/10/al_gore_and_the_mission_of_the.html

ok - I've read it twice and I don't see any quotes from Gore about advocating that poor people should go without electricity or stay poor.

What I do see are a few short quotes from a book Gore wrote in 1982 (25 years ago) and then the author of the article giving his own opinion and interpretation of those quotes.  The rest of the article is about DDT and Malaria and the most recent quote Gore are seven words taken out of context from 1996 (11 years ago) but still nothing from Gore saying that poor people should stay that way or go without electricity.

btw - the author of the article is a policy director at the Competitive Enterprise Institute which until recently received big $$$ from Exxon and which has basically said that global warming/climate change etc.. is a myth and that rising CO2 levels are actually a good thing





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Re: Al gore wins Nobal peace prize!!!!
« Reply #27 on: October 14, 2007, 11:19:50 PM »
ok - I've read it twice and I don't see any quotes from Gore about advocating that poor people should go without electricity or stay poor.

What I do see are a few short quotes from a book Gore wrote in 1982 (25 years ago) and then the author of the article giving his own opinion and interpretation of those quotes.  The rest of the article is about DDT and Malaria and the most recent quote Gore are seven words taken out of context from 1996 (11 years ago) but still nothing from Gore saying that poor people should stay that way or go without electricity.

btw - the author of the article is a policy director at the Competitive Enterprise Institute which until recently received big $$$ from Exxon and which has basically said that global warming/climate change etc.. is a myth and that rising CO2 levels are actually a good thing


As an FFi distributor, I'd be a lying hypocrite if I said I didn't agree with this particular statement highlighted above.

Global Warming, and rising CO2 levels are actually good things for those of us who know how to spot opportunity, ...and when you have the worldwide exclusive distribution rights to a proven product that can actually address this problem, and combat vehicularly-caused pollution, ...it's a golden opportunity for those of us who not only recognize it, ...but also ACT ON IT!

The ancient sanskrit symbol for a challenge or stumbling block, when flipped, translates to dangerous opportunity.
So I have to agree with the man when he says these are good things. All great companies meet a need, or solve a problem, ...so from my perspective, being in a position to provide financial opportunity to people, providing a way to save money on fuel costs while reducing our dependency on foreign oil, helping people's engines perform better, and at the same time helping to save the environment is a grand slam home-run. Something that wouldn't be possible if it were not for escalating fuel prices, global warming, and rising CO2 levels. So yeah, ...in that regard, ...it has been a very good thing for me.  8)
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Re: Al gore wins Nobal peace prize!!!!
« Reply #28 on: October 15, 2007, 01:09:58 AM »
There are many nobel prizes.  Gore and the IPCC did not win the nobel prize for science, they won the peace prize for their efforts to spread the word.

That puts Gore in this company:
Jimmy Carter
Kofi Annan
Nelson Mandela
Gorbachev
Desmond Tutu
Lech Walesa
Mother Teresa
Martin Luther King Jr.
Albert Schweitzer

can't believe schweitzer and Mother teresa are on a list w gore & kofi annan . . . cheapens the prize . . . might as well give it to bono vox.

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Re: Al gore wins Nobal peace prize!!!!
« Reply #29 on: October 15, 2007, 09:17:56 AM »
Oh let's play the Sesame Street game.  One of these is not like the other.   :)  Gore in the same breath with Mandela, Gorbachev, Mother Teresa, MLK??  ??   !!  Ah . . . no. 
Check your sources Mr. Hooper, they are all peace prize winners.

I think Al Gore reminds Conservatives of the illegitimacy of the Bush presidency from the beginning. 

I think Al Gore's achievements remind Conservatives of how utterly incompetent Bush is.


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Re: Al gore wins Nobal peace prize!!!!
« Reply #30 on: October 15, 2007, 09:24:32 AM »


As an FFi distributor, I'd be a lying hypocrite if I said I didn't agree with this particular statement highlighted above.

Global Warming, and rising CO2 levels are actually good things for those of us who know how to spot opportunity, ...and when you have the worldwide exclusive distribution rights to a proven product that can actually address this problem, and combat vehicularly-caused pollution, ...it's a golden opportunity for those of us who not only recognize it, ...but also ACT ON IT!

The ancient sanskrit symbol for a challenge or stumbling block, when flipped, translates to dangerous opportunity.
So I have to agree with the man when he says these are good things. All great companies meet a need, or solve a problem, ...so from my perspective, being in a position to provide financial opportunity to people, providing a way to save money on fuel costs while reducing our dependency on foreign oil, helping people's engines perform better, and at the same time helping to save the environment is a grand slam home-run. Something that wouldn't be possible if it were not for escalating fuel prices, global warming, and rising CO2 levels. So yeah, ...in that regard, ...it has been a very good thing for me8)


I guess next you're going to tell us is that war is good for coffin makers and ditch diggers

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Re: Al gore wins Nobal peace prize!!!!
« Reply #31 on: October 15, 2007, 11:45:50 AM »
Check your sources Mr. Hooper, they are all peace prize winners.

I think Al Gore reminds Conservatives of the illegitimacy of the Bush presidency from the beginning. 

I think Al Gore's achievements remind Conservatives of how utterly incompetent Bush is.



I'm not sure what Gore reminds conservatives of, but he reminds me of a loser.  :D  He will always be the man who lost his home state and hence the presidency in my book.  In same breath as MLK?  Talk about dumbing down the list.   :-\

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Re: Al Gore and IPCC gets Nobe Peace Prize - effects?
« Reply #32 on: October 15, 2007, 11:49:15 AM »
 ;D ;D ;D

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Re: Al Gore and IPCC gets Nobe Peace Prize - effects?
« Reply #34 on: October 16, 2007, 04:55:24 AM »
Well at least all his hot air comes out of a plane exhaust,
...unlike some cowboys who are all hat and no cattle, and spew nothing but hot air every time they open their mouths..

Please list some of Gore's accomplishments during the 8 year tenure as VP. :)

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Re: Al Gore and IPCC gets Nobe Peace Prize - effects?
« Reply #35 on: October 16, 2007, 06:25:52 AM »
Please list some of Gore's accomplishments during the 8 year tenure as VP. :)

He was co-pilot of an administration that managed NOT to start 2-3 elective wars.

Afghanistan: Taliban offered Osama to us, and we declined.  We opted to bomb their country's infrastructure to hell and then never find him.
Iraq: Saddam caved to all demands 24 hours before attack - but we attacked anyway.  how did that work out so far?

So while Gore was an ordinary VP, these last 6 years have been extraordinary fvckups.  Sometimes the best job done is the one that DOESN'T fvck things up royally.

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Re: Al Gore and IPCC gets Nobe Peace Prize - effects?
« Reply #36 on: October 16, 2007, 06:50:07 AM »
Please list some of Gore's accomplishments during the 8 year tenure as VP. :)
I'll go one further than that.

Could you list any accomplishment by any vice president in the last 50 years? 

Accomplishments are not part of the job description.

Here's the answer to your question:  Vice President Al Gore cast the deciding vote in passing the Clinton Budget.  Thanks to that budget, the government eliminated the deficit and was paying down the national debt.

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Re: Al gore wins Nobal peace prize!!!!
« Reply #37 on: October 16, 2007, 08:23:44 AM »
[chuckle] . . .  :)

He's a born loser.  Clinton practically handed him the presidency.  Snatched defeat from the jaws of victory.  He'll probably waste the capital he has from winning this award.
Let's not forget the 1998-2000 War on Gore by the "liberal" media.

Remember the substantive criticisms of Gore?

He sighed during the debate

He wore earth tones

Was he an alpha male?

He invented the internet

He said Love Story was modeled on he and his wife

He discovered Love Canal

He's a know-it-all

He's fat

"Liberal" columnist hag Maureen Dowd wrote a series of articles on a discussion btn Gore and his baldspot.
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While the "liberal" media savaged Gore, Bush got a free ride pretty much.

Bush lied about his platform on several occasions during the debates but no one called him on it

Bush did not know Social Security was a federal program.  But that's charming ignorance.

Due in large part to the "liberal" media's attack on Gore, Bush--this historic disgrace--is still president.

Congratulations on your "winner".

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Re: Al Gore and IPCC gets Nobe Peace Prize - effects?
« Reply #38 on: October 16, 2007, 01:09:10 PM »
I'll go one further than that.

Could you list any accomplishment by any vice president in the last 50 years? 

Accomplishments are not part of the job description.

Here's the answer to your question:  Vice President Al Gore cast the deciding vote in passing the Clinton Budget.  Thanks to that budget, the government eliminated the deficit and was paying down the national debt.

Funny joke, there was also a repeal of a tax on the phones related to some spanish war included thee. Sure, balancing the budget was a great idea but you really aren't a big enough idiot to think he had any freedom to vote against it.

I agree that most vice presidents are useless as tits on boar hogs. I was just hoping you cold point out some small way where he was less useless than the others.

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Re: Al Gore and IPCC gets Nobe Peace Prize - effects?
« Reply #39 on: October 16, 2007, 04:07:18 PM »
effects?  Of course, the award is de-valued and politicized.

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Re: Al gore wins Nobal peace prize!!!!
« Reply #40 on: October 16, 2007, 04:09:31 PM »
Let's not forget the 1998-2000 War on Gore by the "liberal" media.

Remember the substantive criticisms of Gore?

He sighed during the debate

He wore earth tones

Was he an alpha male?

He invented the internet

He said Love Story was modeled on he and his wife

He discovered Love Canal

He's a know-it-all

He's fat

"Liberal" columnist hag Maureen Dowd wrote a series of articles on a discussion btn Gore and his baldspot.
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While the "liberal" media savaged Gore, Bush got a free ride pretty much.

Bush lied about his platform on several occasions during the debates but no one called him on it

Bush did not know Social Security was a federal program.  But that's charming ignorance.

Due in large part to the "liberal" media's attack on Gore, Bush--this historic disgrace--is still president.

Congratulations on your "winner".

But the American people got it right.  Gore simply wasn't good enough to win.  It really shouldn't have been a close race.  He should have won going away.   

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Re: Al gore wins Nobal peace prize!!!!
« Reply #41 on: October 16, 2007, 04:14:11 PM »
But the American people got it right.  Gore simply wasn't good enough to win.  It really shouldn't have been a close race.  He should have won going away.   

It wouldn't have been close but for the media deciding to report on a 20 year old DUI story the weekend before the election.

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Re: Al Gore and IPCC gets Nobe Peace Prize - effects?
« Reply #42 on: October 16, 2007, 04:21:04 PM »
Kind of ironic that he couldn't carry his home state and people are still crying about hanging chads.

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Re: Al gore wins Nobal peace prize!!!!
« Reply #43 on: October 16, 2007, 05:00:54 PM »
It wouldn't have been close but for the media deciding to report on a 20 year old DUI story the weekend before the election.

Maybe. 

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Re: Al Gore and IPCC gets Nobe Peace Prize - effects?
« Reply #44 on: October 16, 2007, 05:02:01 PM »
Kind of ironic that he couldn't carry his home state and people are still crying about hanging chads.

Thank you.  I've been saying that for years.  If he wins his home state he wins the presidency even if he loses Florida.  How sad is that? 

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Re: Al Gore and IPCC gets Nobe Peace Prize - effects?
« Reply #45 on: October 16, 2007, 05:04:03 PM »
Thank you.  I've been saying that for years.  If he wins his home state he wins the presidency even if he loses Florida.  How sad is that? 

They knew him best, LOL!

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Re: Al Gore and IPCC gets Nobe Peace Prize - effects?
« Reply #46 on: October 17, 2007, 06:20:22 AM »
Funny joke, there was also a repeal of a tax on the phones related to some spanish war included thee. Sure, balancing the budget was a great idea but you really aren't a big enough idiot to think he had any freedom to vote against it.

I agree that most vice presidents are useless as tits on boar hogs. I was just hoping you cold point out some small way where he was less useless than the others.
Constitutionally, he could have voted any way he chose but he was an advocate for the Clinton budget from the beginning so your point really doesn't make a whole lot of sense.

The office of the vice presidency is not powerful or active office.  That is until Dick Cheney became acting president.

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Re: Al gore wins Nobal peace prize!!!!
« Reply #47 on: October 17, 2007, 06:23:39 AM »
But the American people got it right.  Gore simply wasn't good enough to win.  It really shouldn't have been a close race.  He should have won going away.   
Why should he have won going away?  That makes no sense. 

There is a reason we have elections.

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Re: Al Gore and IPCC gets Nobe Peace Prize - effects?
« Reply #48 on: October 17, 2007, 06:40:40 AM »
Thank you.  I've been saying that for years.  If he wins his home state he wins the presidency even if he loses Florida.  How sad is that? 
It's not sad at all.  Tennesse is a republican state.  Gore was out of the state 8 years as vp and his senate seat was occupied largely by republicans.

What is so difficult to understand about that?

Harlan Mathews (D)1993-1994

Fred Thompson (R) 1994-2003

Lamar Alexander (R) 2003---

I think the thing that concerns me the most about your position, that he's a "loser" is that it flies in the face of the fact that he won the popular vote and that under any circumstance, when all the votes in florida were tallied, he won florida too.  Gore was right about Iraq, battling terrorism, SS, and host of other issues.  While president Cheney was wrong.  I mean Bush.

The only reason Bush is in the whitehouse from 2000 is b/c of the worst legal decision in Supreme Court history---Bush v. Gore.

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Re: Al Gore and IPCC gets Nobel Peace Prize - effects?
« Reply #49 on: October 17, 2007, 06:44:31 AM »
Regardless of what Gore did as a Vice President, or his failure to become the next president, he's been very successful in his mission to bring attention to global warming, and the problems that comes with it.

Lots of people have accused Gore of trying to use his environmental agenda as a platform to launch a new bid for presidency, which he's repeatedly denied he will do. Last night on Norwegian television was the latest time he said he wasn't gonna run BTW.

Ad hominem attacks on Gore that he's a "loser", "fat", et al, serves no intellectual purpose.

Regardless of what I think of Gore on other issues (and I disagree with him on plenty) I will give Gore lots of credit for helping making our environment being a bigger part of the daily agenda.

Only a year ago, a lot of people would claim that the global warming was only propaganda.

Not so now.

Gore will never entirely be accepted by all Americans I guess, although it seems like he's trying to distance himself from party politics.

But I think any American should be proud that a fellow citizen received the Nobel Peace Prize.

I know I would be if a Swede won it.
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