I will be joining the dark side soon my brothers..!!

[HERACLES]

My training partner is like 42 and he went from 160 lbs nothing to a really respectable solid 195 with abs!  Im blown away how some "extra help" will transform your body to ok to impressive.

Ive been training all my life, since 15. I competed as a natural when I was im my mid 20s. Now at 32 no more messing around..If he can make such awesome gains I cant wait to see my transformation...

I will keep you all posted.. looking to start in January and set my sites for showtime in May 2008.

[Luv2Hurt]

My training partner is like 42 and he went from 160 lbs nothing to a really respectable solid 195 with abs!  Im blown away how some "extra help" will transform your body to ok to impressive.

Ive been training all my life, since 15. I competed as a natural when I was im my mid 20s. Now at 32 no more messing around..If he can make such awesome gains I cant wait to see my transformation...

I will keep you all posted.. looking to start in January and set my sites for showtime in May 2008.

Why do you think your gains will be so much better?  Do you have any genetic potential?  Cause thats what matters most.

[HERACLES]

Yes. I had not to long ago a "taste"... I had a 7 month cycle of test/deca. Experienced folks know this is no where near long enough time for full results...so i was on 500 test and 400 deca a week. The gains were awesome, people were commenting on how much different i looked all the time, in and out of the gym..it was comical...i couldnt believe it!!! So after trying it I decided to go all out on a 16 week cycle starting in January.

[Beener]

Yes. I had not to long ago a "taste"... I had a 7 month cycle of test/deca. Experienced folks know this is no where near long enough time for full results...so i was on 500 test and 400 deca a week. The gains were awesome, people were commenting on how much different i looked all the time, in and out of the gym..it was comical...i couldnt believe it!!! So after trying it I decided to go all out on a 16 week cycle starting in January.

Do you mean 7week?

[busyB]

Do you mean 7week?

If it was a "taste" might have been 7 days?

[krazee]

Yes. I had not to long ago a "taste"... I had a 7 month cycle of test/deca. Experienced folks know this is no where near long enough time for full results...so i was on 500 test and 400 deca a week. The gains were awesome, people were commenting on how much different i looked all the time, in and out of the gym..it was comical...i couldnt believe it!!! So after trying it I decided to go all out on a 16 week cycle starting in January.

7 months.....in that amount of time did anyone tell you that your test was too low bro? And I'm guessing that you meant 7 weeks and if that is the case....too short of time to see real results IMO.

[HERACLES]

yep 7 weeks.. sorry about that.. in 7 weeks I was poppin' it was silly let me tell you. I actually stopped bc I was content and sick of the pins. This time its all the way though...no less than 16 weeks.

So thats why I feel so excited, as in only 7 weeks at those low dosages i was repping 275 on the flat bench like it was 185..huge pumps, and people actually saying "Woah, your arms are lookin big!" haha, meanwhile my arms are my weakest bodypart by far...

[The Squadfather]

275 on the bench, my Lord what a beast!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Rimbaud]

275 on the bench, my Lord what a beast!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

We can't all be as strong as you. 

[HERACLES]

lol..I know, thats not what I meant..I meant it felt so light within 7 weeks.. I really mean light..like 15 reps light..

Come on now, a brotha is being brutally honest and Im not getting any love?? haha..

[Rimbaud]

lol..I know, thats not what I meant..I meant it felt so light within 7 weeks.. I really mean light..like 15 reps light..

Come on now, a brotha is being brutally honest and Im not getting any love?? haha..

I respect your honesty but IMO who cares what you can lift or can't lift? It doesn't matter if you can bench 500lbs as long as you look like you can. 

[Arnold jr]

I respect your honesty but IMO who cares what you can lift or can't lift? It doesn't matter if you can bench 500lbs as long as you look like you can. 

Agreed. If you're only pushing 100lbs on the bench but your chest looks like it could push unlimited weight, who cares. That aside, 275lbs on the flat bench for 15 reps is a decent set and I'd be willing to bet $1000 that most guys on this web site could not do that if they're life depended on it.

[HERACLES]

..the point i was trying to make is how much easier it felt (like warming up with 185), and the pumps i was getting were insane..i have been a life long natural, and let me tell you wow what a difference..And when people start commenting on how much bigger you look after training all your life and not really hearing many compliments...lol...its nice..

Ive seen guys in the gym i go to get knocked out with injuries for  6 months, they come back and go on and they are HUGE in 3 months.. I am looking to competing in my first "open" show in May..so from now until december im trying to get to 200 wich i will be pretty lean, then start the goodies in jan and go with it until may..

[Arnold jr]

..the point i was trying to make is how much easier it felt (like warming up with 185), and the pumps i was getting were insane..i have been a life long natural, and let me tell you wow what a difference..And when people start commenting on how much bigger you look after training all your life and not really hearing many compliments...lol...its nice..

Ive seen guys in the gym i go to get knocked out with injuries for  6 months, they come back and go on and they are HUGE in 3 months.. I am looking to competing in my first "open" show in May..so from now until december im trying to get to 200 wich i will be pretty lean, then start the goodies in jan and go with it until may..

Good luck to you and feel free to let us all know how that goes.