I was looking at their products recently. Almost looked to "gimmicky" to me just from having the word deca in their product.
I'll say this also, I was at the olympia expo and a number of these pre workout/arginine samples I got are horrible. I don't buy a product for the taste but I have to be able to injest it in order to use it. Gaspari Super Pump comes to mind. I had several samples and this stuff does not mix. Stir it shake it whatever it wasnt happening.