Author Topic: Dorian Yates had Skinhead written on his knuckles?  (Read 20157 times)

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Re: Dorian Yates had Skinhead written on his knuckles?
« Reply #25 on: October 16, 2007, 07:52:09 AM »
hey....he aint very big, is he?


i'm bigger than that.



bet he trains abdominals twice a day to get a wash board like that.

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Re: Dorian Yates had Skinhead written on his knuckles?
« Reply #26 on: October 16, 2007, 08:07:53 AM »
and how do you know in dorians case that it was nothing to do with nazism?
99% of skinheads in the early '80's over here were just following fashion (it was well known then), Dorian answered all the tatto questions back in 1990/91 when American's first started asking about them and stated they were just fashion. I believed him - when you meet him and chat to him he comes across as a really nice guy with a VERY dry sense of humour, fuck all to do with whether he may be a Nazi I know, but I believe his early '90's statements.

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Re: Dorian Yates had Skinhead written on his knuckles?
« Reply #27 on: October 16, 2007, 08:08:30 AM »

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Re: Dorian Yates had Skinhead written on his knuckles?
« Reply #28 on: October 16, 2007, 08:11:34 AM »
hey....he aint very big, is he?


i'm bigger than that.



bet he trains abdominals twice a day to get a wash board like that.
Please tell e this is a joke right?!  ::)

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Re: Dorian Yates had Skinhead written on his knuckles?
« Reply #29 on: October 16, 2007, 08:50:06 AM »
almost every british lad from a council estate in the late 70's early 80's had a skinhead and skinhead tatts,, had nowt to do with nazi's... his wife isnt exactly pure white either, alot of his former training partners were black too !

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Re: Dorian Yates had Skinhead written on his knuckles?
« Reply #30 on: October 16, 2007, 08:53:27 AM »
almost every british lad from a council estate in the late 70's early 80's had a skinhead and skinhead tatts,, had nowt to do with nazi's... his wife isnt exactly pure white either, alot of his former training partners were black too !
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Re: Dorian Yates had Skinhead written on his knuckles?
« Reply #31 on: October 16, 2007, 08:59:31 AM »

I disagree that its something thats "self"(ego-personality) inflicted, when its TRUE tattoo.

Although the connection that happens on this level is all encompassing and the love for bodybuilding so great, that the desire to suffer as he did, to feel the pain as he did, is an act of great compassion beyond the earthly understanding of the word.

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Re: Dorian Yates had Skinhead written on his knuckles?
« Reply #32 on: October 16, 2007, 09:02:11 AM »
I disagree that its something thats "self"(ego-personality) inflicted, when its TRUE tattoo.

Although the connection that happens on this level is all encompassing and the love for bodybuilding so great, that the desire to suffer as he did, to feel the pain as he did, is an act of great compassion beyond the earthly understanding of the word.
Nope! He was probably just drunk and thought it would be a good idea at 11pm one Saturday night!!!! ( are you trying to be TrueAdonis by the way????

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Re: Dorian Yates had Skinhead written on his knuckles?
« Reply #33 on: October 16, 2007, 10:18:33 AM »
whether it was fashion or not, it was still wrong. He is accountable.

If he was an adult and still wearing any kind of hate message on his body he has some explaining to do. He should apologize and show his contrition by contributing time or money to anti- racism and anti-semitism groups in his country.

If he refuses then he is most likely guilty.

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Re: Dorian Yates had Skinhead written on his knuckles?
« Reply #34 on: October 16, 2007, 10:13:07 AM »
whether it was fashion or not, it was still wrong. He is accountable.

If he was an adult and still wearing any kind of hate message on his body he has some explaining to do. He should apologize and show his contrition by contributing time or money to anti- racism and anti-semitism groups in his country.

If he refuses then he is most likely guilty.
I think you'll find he did apologise in the early 1990's and then had the offending tatoos removed - Just left with the flag one ( until recently ).

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Re: Dorian Yates had Skinhead written on his knuckles?
« Reply #35 on: October 16, 2007, 10:24:07 AM »
i just noticed, it says "brummie skins" on his t shirt!

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Re: Dorian Yates had Skinhead written on his knuckles?
« Reply #36 on: October 16, 2007, 10:44:19 AM »
skinheads in england 70s - 90s were just a very large gang mostly made up of younger guys that were mostly just angry due to lack of social structure, employment and a feeling of being betrayed of their pride/dignity by a government that was intent on multiculturalism.

it started with the premise of rebelling against what many believed was an abandonment of national pride and progressed to simply rebellion for it's own sake and to escape poverty and despair.

the fashion was dms (doctor martin boots and hence the tattoo of same) and a closely shorn head. at least they were the essentials.

activity: gang violence and comradeship, a feeling of belonging and a simmering rage against the machine so to speak.

i remember mid 80s i was 11 and visiting england and my mother had thought it was a good idea to get my head shorn (maybe i had lice or something). well, since i wasn't a member of a gang and thus had no backup i got bashed simply for the haircut. :-\

fact is, if you grew up as dorian did (lost his father at an early age, man of the house, poor, stress, small family, no job prospects, etc) you were a prime candidate. the cold hard reality in these circumstances was that you were a skin or you were nobody.

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Re: Dorian Yates had Skinhead written on his knuckles?
« Reply #37 on: October 16, 2007, 10:48:07 AM »
skinheads in england 70s - 90s were just a very large gang mostly made up of younger guys that were mostly just angry due to lack of social structure, employment and a feeling of being betrayed of their pride/dignity by a government that was intent on multiculturalism.

it started with the premise of rebelling against what many believed was an abandonment of national pride and progressed to simply rebellion for it's own sake and to escape poverty and despair.

the fashion was dms (doctor martin boots and hence the tattoo of same) and a closely shorn head. at least they were the essentials.

activity: gang violence and comradeship, a feeling of belonging and a simmering rage against the machine so to speak.

i remember mid 80s i was 11 and visiting england and my mother had thought it was a good idea to get my head shorn (maybe i had lice or something). well, since i wasn't a member of a gang and thus had no backup i got bashed simply for the haircut. :-\

fact is, if you grew up as dorian did (lost his father at an early age, man of the house, poor, stress, small family, no job prospects, etc) you were a prime candidate. the cold hard reality in these circumstances was that you were a skin or you were nobody.


still not an excuse.. I am sure there were many young men in the same circumstance  that went out and educated themselves and avoided that pitfall. Why make excuses for the ones that chose the wrong path. Whats next it was a "cultural" thing?

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Re: Dorian Yates had Skinhead written on his knuckles?
« Reply #38 on: October 16, 2007, 11:19:21 AM »
still not an excuse.. I am sure there were many young men in the same circumstance  that went out and educated themselves and avoided that pitfall. Why make excuses for the ones that chose the wrong path. Whats next it was a "cultural" thing?

not making excuses, just providing my own insight into what 'being a skin' was all about re dorian's environment.

i can honestly say that it had very little to do with racism and everything to do with the aforementioned.

i agree that people should be accountable for their choices, but i believe the man deserves respect for the fact that he was strong enough to make better choices later in life that saw him completely exonerate himself from his past, right down to getting said tattoos removed from his skin.

judge the man by his actions not the words once written on his arm. ;)


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Re: Dorian Yates had Skinhead written on his knuckles?
« Reply #39 on: October 16, 2007, 11:27:55 AM »
a feeling of being betrayed of their pride/dignity by a government that was intent on multiculturalism.

Sounds like 2007 to me.

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Re: Dorian Yates had Skinhead written on his knuckles?
« Reply #40 on: October 16, 2007, 11:32:44 AM »
GOD THIS IS OLD ... AND I MEAN OLD NEWS ! Damn Stark ... what Rock have you been hiding under ?

Why do people on this board like find “news” that is 10+ years old, post it like a news flash, and expect us to react?  ???

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Re: Dorian Yates had Skinhead written on his knuckles?
« Reply #41 on: October 16, 2007, 11:40:10 AM »
Why do people on this board like find “news” that is 10+ years old, post it like a news flash, and expect us to react?  ???

...because people like you react.

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Re: Dorian Yates had Skinhead written on his knuckles?
« Reply #42 on: October 16, 2007, 11:40:35 AM »
Who cares if he was a skinhead[neo nazi or not].Why would his politics matter?This is the problem in this country.No one is allowed to have affiliations with whom they want because the thought police will come in and drag you away.Vote for Ron Paul.

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Re: Dorian Yates had Skinhead written on his knuckles?
« Reply #43 on: October 16, 2007, 11:43:36 AM »
Who cares if he was a skinhead[neo nazi or not].Why would his politics matter?This is the problem in this country.No one is allowed to have affiliations with whom they want because the thought police will come in and drag you away.Vote for Ron Paul.

you can be affiliated with whomever you want (as long as you don't engage in illegal/terrorist activity).

'thought police' become extinct if you don't give a shit. ;)

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Re: Dorian Yates had Skinhead written on his knuckles?
« Reply #44 on: October 16, 2007, 12:15:55 PM »
Sounds like Stark is still masturbating from his meeting with Dorian earlier in the week and now wants to find out every little snippet of information he can and in the meantime getting his wirse completely crossed.  ::)

Dorian was a skinhead back in the late 70's early 80's but certainly not a racist - his best friend is a black guy nicknamed Choc (whom I've met on several occasions - he spotted me on benches once) and his ex-wife Debbie is half black, half chinese. Hardly the actions of a Nazi.

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Re: Dorian Yates had Skinhead written on his knuckles?
« Reply #45 on: October 16, 2007, 12:28:25 PM »
Sounds like Stark is still masturbating from his meeting with Dorian earlier in the week and now wants to find out every little snippet of information he can and in the meantime getting his wirse completely crossed.  ::)

Dorian was a skinhead back in the late 70's early 80's but certainly not a racist - his best friend is a black guy nicknamed Choc (whom I've met on several occasions - he spotted me on benches once) and his ex-wife Debbie is half black, half chinese. Hardly the actions of a Nazi.

nice racist nickname

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Re: Dorian Yates had Skinhead written on his knuckles?
« Reply #46 on: October 16, 2007, 12:28:41 PM »
whether it was fashion or not, it was still wrong. He is accountable.

If he was an adult and still wearing any kind of hate message on his body he has some explaining to do. He should apologize and show his contrition by contributing time or money to anti- racism and anti-semitism groups in his country.

If he refuses then he is most likely guilty.

First of all being a Skinhead doesn't mean you are automatically a racist, educate yourself there are a lot of different Skinhead groups out there that have nothing to do with nazism racism and so forth...google sharps for a start, having said this, back in the days nearly every lad living in the working class areas was probably a skin or at least thinking of becoming one, it was the way to rebel and show Thatcher what a  c unt she really was.

Second: You have simply not a clue what you are talking about, he has NO hate messages on his body... never had... he had a Boot with a date (that can mean a shiploads of things) and a tattoo (he still has that one) that says: My England... nothing wrong with that... unless you are an immigrant radical Muslim cleric.

Next time get the facts first and open your mouth later ;)


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Re: Dorian Yates had Skinhead written on his knuckles?
« Reply #47 on: October 16, 2007, 12:30:07 PM »
Sounds like Stark is still masturbating from his meeting with Dorian earlier in the week and now wants to find out every little snippet of information he can and in the meantime getting his wirse completely crossed.  ::)

Dorian was a skinhead back in the late 70's early 80's but certainly not a racist - his best friend is a black guy nicknamed Choc (whom I've met on several occasions - he spotted me on benches once) and his ex-wife Debbie is half black, half chinese. Hardly the actions of a Nazi.

Calm down Gloria


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Re: Dorian Yates had Skinhead written on his knuckles?
« Reply #48 on: October 16, 2007, 12:31:06 PM »
nice racist nickname

I believe it's called "irony"

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Re: Dorian Yates had Skinhead written on his knuckles?
« Reply #49 on: October 16, 2007, 12:31:33 PM »
Why do people on this board like find “news” that is 10+ years old, post it like a news flash, and expect us to react?  ???

Well you did didn't you? So please shut your hole (pun intended)  ::)