Dbol makes me feel like shit.
Even at a lower dose, say 30mg ed

Ever try 10-15mg preworkout?
Have you used the pink Thais? I have just the greatest energy and feel on them up to a little over 30mg
and no real watter retention, but it takes Oxy + Test or a massive dose of Test + deca to make me
hold much water... even then my BP dont move much...