Milos' Drinks - they deliver!

[DK II]

Why not??


Do all those lifters in gyms throughout Europe know they are wasting their time lifting without taking Snake Oil^TM?

Yeah, they do, but you have to order it from the states. 

[Milos_Sarcev]

...and anyone that pays you to tell them how to lift pink dumbells would be wiser to invest their money in several pre-paid appointments with a psychiatrist.

Japanese bodybuilder comes to me after 2 years of not making top 15 at the Ironman and within a year he is first Japanese bodybuilder competing at the Olympia...

Gustavo was 24th out of 25 competitors in 2002 Mr Olympia and 2003 couldn't crack top 15 in smaller shows - about ready to quit when he decided to try my help and started with spectacular showing at the Ironman 2004 3 months later...following with unthinkable TOP 3 FINISH 2 years in a row at the O...victory at the 2005 Ironman...etc

Dennis Wolf not really noticed (somehow?) in 2006 in his 5 competitions (including 2006 Olympia) managed to win Keystone,, make top 3 (should have won - New York) and made top 5 (should have won - Olympia)...

Johnnie Jackson - JUST STARTED and besides winning Atlantic City - watch him grow into TOP OLYMPIA CONTENDER by the next year...

...anyway...

[DK II]

Hi Milos, how can i get your stuff in europe??

[Master Blaster]

Hahahah "BEAST" isn't around anymore. 

[nycbull]

Mother Milos's Immaculate Consumption Recipe....drink it and you will be blessed and on your way to becoming pro  bodybuilder.

The Father = Amino Preload

The Son = Amino XXpload 

The Holy Spirit = Amino Reload HT 

mix with holy snake oil...enjoy

mix with any Wieder products and you will go straight to Hell.

[Thin Lizzy]

Milos should give everyone on getbig a lifetime supply of his drinks for free, and pay all shipping costs.

[DK II]

Milos should give everyone on getbig a lifetime supply of his drinks for free, and pay all shipping costs.

Well, he could also provide them from europe, then he wouldn\t need to ship it here. 

[The Coach]

as i said, provide some evidence to dispute the fact.

that is...if you are capable - of course.

This in one BIG problem I have, Milos says he does all of these studies involving scientists, Dr's, etc but I cannot seem to find one published study on his findings, he wants to debate to convince me (of what I have no idea, insulin and how safe it supposedly is I presume) yet, like most BBer's who believe in what they say, he will only present the "positive" side on what he thinks to be correct. Still looking for some published studies of his.

[G o a t b o y]

Japanese bodybuilder comes to me after 2 years of not making top 15 at the Ironman and within a year he is first Japanese bodybuilder competing at the Olympia...

Gustavo was 24th out of 25 competitors in 2002 Mr Olympia and 2003 couldn't crack top 15 in smaller shows - about ready to quit when he decided to try my help and started with spectacular showing at the Ironman 2004 3 months later...following with unthinkable TOP 3 FINISH 2 years in a row at the O...victory at the 2005 Ironman...etc

Dennis Wolf not really noticed (somehow?) in 2006 in his 5 competitions (including 2006 Olympia) managed to win Keystone,, make top 3 (should have won - New York) and made top 5 (should have won - Olympia)...

Johnnie Jackson - JUST STARTED and besides winning Atlantic City - watch him grow into TOP OLYMPIA CONTENDER by the next year...

...anyway...

No one is questioning your success training pros, you've obviously done very well, but something tells me that the Snake Oil^TM is not the "supplement" that is making the difference.

[Master Blaster]

This in one BIG problem I have, Milos says he does all of these studies involving scientists, Dr's, etc but I cannot seem to find one published study on his findings, he wants to debate to convince me (of what I have no idea, insulin and how safe it supposedly is I presume) yet, like most BBer's who believe in what they say, he will only present the "positive" side on what he thinks to be correct. Still looking for some published studies of his.

"Beast" (   ) was claiming that it takes HOURS for even amino acids to be digested.  

 There are numerous studies that prove this is false.

[DK II]

"Beast" (  ) was claiming that it takes HOURS for even amino acids to be digested. 

 There are numerous studies that prove this is false.

Haaha, monster knowledge.

[Milos_Sarcev]

Fixed. 



(Although I still think you should Youtube it..... Snake Oil^TM sales would be through the roof after that!)

Free infomercial WITH OPEN QUESTIONS ABOUT EVERYTHING AND ANYTHING....

Think of first seminar WHY I ORGANIZED IT?

Someone was offended that I didn't exactly answer his question about specific exercises to stimulate long head of the triceps...so after asking did you get my DVD which SPECIALIZES exactly that - HOW TO STIMULATE PARTICULAR PARTS OF ANY MUSCLE - he answered - NO, I don't have your DVD...even though I collect training DVD's...I want to hear from you...I don't want to buy your DVD?!

So I told him that I will give him double money back guarantee (which is my personal guarantee where I would give him $80 back if he finds that my 3 DVD set "Secrets of the Pros" is not worth $40...which is the price).

He was still offended and that's how we ended up talking about my FEES that I am charging...

So, to offer all my getbig fans (there are so many of you who just LOVE ME...I know ) I offered FREE SEMINAR IN MY GYM - with free stuff to be handed out...With in impromptu posedown between Melvin and Armin Scholz, posing seminar with Melvin, Giant sets for shoulders and arms - with Dennis James demonstrating and participating...Dennis Wolf, Flex Lewis, Zhanna Rotar and my wife present - both in contest shape...and me insisting that EVERY QUESTION WILL BE ANSWERED...

Oh, I forgot - Ron Avidan with his camcorder and Garraeth with his grapefruit

So...now as I am trying to volunteer my time again...it is "infomercial" and not something that I want to give back to bodybuilding community?

Oh well...yes I am organizing infomercial and looking for people who will say "Oh my God...I used so and so and it is like - a miracle! " Goooooosh - it is absolutely A-mazing! F' suuure"

[Pete Nice]

Milos, does Dennis Wolf use your products or Nutrex products??

[Master Blaster]

Milos, does Dennis Wolf use your products or Nutrex products??

Hmmm...awkward. 

[Milos_Sarcev]

This in one BIG problem I have, Milos says he does all of these studies involving scientists, Dr's, etc but I cannot seem to find one published study on his findings, he wants to debate to convince me (of what I have no idea, insulin and how safe it supposedly is I presume) yet, like most BBer's who believe in what they say, he will only present the "positive" side on what he thinks to be correct. Still looking for some published studies of his.

Big problem you have?

"Milos says" ... he does read studies and studies I considered I will certainly post...But my knowledge comes from TEXTBOOKS as it should...not abstracts of some published "cockamamie" studies you are reading Coach.

What I tried politely to tell you in our phone conversation is that IF you claim your knowledge is up to par with mine (as you were posting here on board and I called you on it) - think twice...before you come here to Koloseum to challenge me.
And I said that NOT because I am so great...but because it is apparent to me (and many others) that your knowledge is - laughable to say the least...You have none - bottom line (as offensive as it sounds - it is the truth...and that truth I was willing to expose...and still am IF YOU WISH...and not for any other reason - but because you are asking for it).

You are sarcastically stating that you are still looking for my studies...Keep looking...
I told you - I didn't publish any...It is NOT my priority to do it...(at least it wasn't).
Now, my business partner, my wife, my sister (surgeon), my mother (retired medical practitioner), my WIFE and DAUGHTER want me to do a study proving my claims...and I think I will...and when I do I will post the reference so you don't have to search for it...

What I offered you is to come to Koloseum so I could give you 25+ years of my experience and findings I had working with hundreds of people....some top IFBB pros and some world class athletes in other sports...

Explaining the CONCEPT behind my supplements make a lot of sense to many experts I talked to...they encouraged me to continue my research...(Ajinomoto supplied me with all the aminos I asked for - so I could mix and match whatever I want and experiment with...) and I am delighted with my findings...

Those findings I am trying to share with others and hear nothing but complains only when I come here on getbig...for some reason?

[Master Blaster]

Big problem you have?

"Milos says" ... he does read studies and studies I considered I will certainly post...But my knowledge comes from TEXTBOOKS as it should...not abstracts of some published "cockamamie" studies you are reading Coach.

What I tried politely to tell you in our phone conversation is that IF you claim your knowledge is up to par with mine (as you were posting here on board and I called you on it) - think twice...before you come here to Koloseum to challenge me.
And I said that NOT because I am so great...but because it is apparent to me (and many others) that your knowledge is - laughable to say the least...You have none - bottom line (as offensive as it sounds - it is the truth...and that truth I was willing to expose...and still am IF YOU WISH...and not for any other reason - but because you are asking for it).

You are sarcastically stating that you are still looking for my studies...Keep looking...
I told you - I didn't publish any...It is NOT my priority to do it...(at least it wasn't).
Now, my business partner, my wife, my sister (surgeon), my mother (retired medical practitioner), my WIFE and DAUGHTER want me to do a study proving my claims...and I think I will...and when I do I will post the reference so you don't have to search for it...

What I offered you is to come to Koloseum so I could give you 25+ years of my experience and findings I had working with hundreds of people....some top IFBB pros and some world class athletes in other sports...

Explaining the CONCEPT behind my supplements make a lot of sense to many experts I talked to...they encouraged me to continue my research...(Ajinomoto supplied me with all the aminos I asked for - so I could mix and match whatever I want and experiment with...) and I am delighted with my findings...

Those findings I am trying to share with others and hear nothing but complains only when I come here on getbig...for some reason?

Looks like Milos had too much XXXPlode today.

Seriously though, you should do an online sale with a discount for getbiggers. I bet a lot of haters might make a secret order or two. 

[Rampage]

Milos , some tuff questions im gonna ask with all due respect , just understand


Your right about all the pros that came to you and went sky high therafter...but..

1) Why cant we get dennis james to reveal his true potential on a mr O stage ? and why is his back d-bi weak.You said u called him a future MR O , and the only other person you sid that about was Ronnie.SO can dennnis still get there , james i meaN.Is he a mystery to solve stilll ?

[Milos_Sarcev]

Milos makes a few wild leaps of logic that he just can't see. He assumes that nutrient availability during the workout is a limiting factor in hypertrophy. It would be fine if he just said that this is a theory of his and has been found to work on his clients... but he makes it sound as if it were fact. The most important factor when working out is the tension (overload if you will) placed on the muscle, not getting the most "amino acid saturated blood flow" going on. Someone eating tons of aminos and getting a huge pump doing high reps with very light weights is not going to gain as much as someone who employs progressive resistance while eating "normal meals".

I could make the claim that getting in as big a "catabolic" state as possible during the workout (i.e. low insulin levels, high adrenaline etc) triggers the adaptive machinery more efficiently and Milos could not refute it with current science. All we have now is data showing that aminos ingested preworkout causes higher protein synthesis ACUTELY (and these studies done in fasted subjects). What this means in the bigger picture is unknown.

And you can take numerous pharmacological books or medicament's (try OXANDRIN for example ) and still read bold statement from our government stating that ANABOLIC STEROIDS DO NOT IMPROVE SPORTS PERFORMANCE...and it is usually written in capital letters...

It would be fine if I just said that this is a theory of mine and I have been found to work on my clients... but I make it sound as if it were fact?

It is a theory of mine and I have found that works wonders on me and EACH AND EVERY CLIENT I experimented with...and to me - it is a fact...

While I was in Nottingham University professor Greenhaf told me that it is not proven that increased protein intake over the RDA would mean muscle growth to trained individual...and I am also sure many other things known to everyone to be CERTAIN are still not proven in the "court of law"...

Now...as far as "tension" and heavy weights, load required to trigger fast twitch muscle fiber recruitment...etc...etc - that you are mentioning as a limiting factor in muscle hypertrophy - HOW DO YOU EXPLAIN NUMEROUS ATHLETES (many that I train) increasing their lean body mass considerably by switching form heavy-duty, fast twich muscle fiber specific training to high repetition protocols used in my giant sets?

And why even numerous champions in IFBB professional circuit claim that high repetition protocols (over 15 repetitions per set) created considerably faster muscle growth (hypertrophy) than scientifically proven (all out 6-10) low rep sets?

[Van_Bilderass]

Now...as far as "tension" and heavy weights, load required to trigger fast twitch muscle fiber recruitment...etc...etc - that you are mentioning as a limiting factor in muscle hypertrophy - HOW DO YOU EXPLAIN NUMEROUS ATHLETES (many that I train) increasing their lean body mass considerably by switching form heavy-duty, fast twich muscle fiber specific training to high repetition protocols used in my giant sets?

And why even numerous champions in IFBB professional circuit claim that high repetition protocols (over 15 repetitions per set) created considerably faster muscle growth (hypertrophy) than scientifically proven (all out 6-10) low rep sets?

It's called sarcoplasmic hypertrohy. I'm sure you're familiar with this term. Yes, it will work to a degree causing cosmetic effects. And I'm sure you still do some lower rep work as well, as you've said elsewhere. This will cause actual contractile muscle tissue increases. Your type of extremely depleting training will make the loading of water in the muscle (through insulin, glycogen) all the more effective.

Like you very well know, an athlete can gain a huge amount of LBM quickly through the use of different drugs. Take a currently clean athlete and start him up on Anadrol, Test, Insulin, hGH etc, and he can put on a pound of LBM per day for several weeks in the best case scenario. This is water mostly but looks like muscle tissue.

So yes, I agree that your "principles" WILL work just great, but maybe not for the exact reasons you state.

[Jeriko]

I have to give it to Milos. He's a standup guy taking punches on this board like a champ. While the whole "snake oil" bit is funny I don't think i've read anyone state that his new supps don't make sense. On the contrary they seem like common sense.  I understand for some it's simply about the $$ on top of our normal expenses, grocery bills, gym fees, etc. I've been meaning to place my order just had a little fire disruption here in San Diego 

[Bluto]

no of people reporting great success with milos supplements on getbig: 0
no of people registered on getbig: 18,000+

[Platz]

no of people reporting great success with milos supplements on getbig: 0
no of people registered on getbig: 18,000+

stop bitching 

[Milos_Sarcev]

no of people reporting great success with milos supplements on getbig: 0
no of people registered on getbig: 18,000+

Or maybe?

No of people reporting no success with milos supps on getbig: 0
no of people registered on getbig: 18,000+

[The Squadfather]

So my brother got me 2 out of 3 Milos drinks, namely Amino Preload HA and Amino XXpload AC, meaning that I'm taking Amino Preload prior to training and Amino XXpload during the training. He got me 2 jars this monday, and I've been using it for 3 days now. All i can say is waaaahooaaooow I got sick pumps, sometimes have to finish my set halfway because of the incredible pump you get from this shit!!

Have used NO Xplode, Horse Power and all that crap in the past, but it cant compare to this at all. The energy is also endless during the whole workout when taking Milos drinks. Could only complain about the taste, but i really dont care as long as it continues to DELIVER baby!!!!

translation=the placebo effect pushed your bench from 135 to 145.

[Platz]

translation=the placebo effect pushed your bench from 135 to 145.

Is there a problem that I'm not a 260 lbs beast, 5% BF like you, squad?