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Re: MILOS: Nasser says you owe him money
« Reply #25 on: October 28, 2007, 11:23:39 AM »
i belive u Milos,,,Nasser is an a--hole

btw selling used cloth on his website is a scam of innocent mindless people's money

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Re: MILOS: Nasser says you owe him money
« Reply #26 on: October 28, 2007, 11:27:17 AM »
 ;D ;D Ouch.
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Re: MILOS: Nasser says you owe him money
« Reply #27 on: October 28, 2007, 11:29:53 AM »
Nasser broke?  He's retired, financially independent, and making great investment money off of commercial real estate.  Not to mention his merchandise sales.  If Nasser were they type to cry over a few dollars he would not have waited 12 years to reveal it.  In contrast, how long did Milos wait to reveal that Mustafa owed him money?  Nasser also laughed when he mentioned Milos hasn't paid him back - he didn't really seem to care whether or not he gets the money he just felt as a matter of principle its only fair to smudge Milos' name since Milos pulled a cheap stunt with him.

Ah yes, the lap of luxury.  :-\

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Re: MILOS: Nasser says you owe him money
« Reply #28 on: October 28, 2007, 11:30:13 AM »
As always the details in the story are pretty impressive so Milos props to you, for not holding anything back. Dan
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Re: MILOS: Nasser says you owe him money
« Reply #29 on: October 28, 2007, 11:31:34 AM »
Hey Milos,

I'll tell you what... you can train me with your expert knowledge, which I truly believe you have, and I promise - no, instead, I SWEAR - that twelve years later I will NOT say you owe me any money. What do you say? =)

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Re: MILOS: Nasser says you owe him money
« Reply #30 on: October 28, 2007, 11:41:28 AM »
You mentioned Milos Sarcev. Here is a point I would like to make in this interview. Milos still owes me money: 2550 dollars. I loaned him money to buy anabolic steroids because at the time, in 1995, he was getting divorced from one of his numerous wives and he was out of money. So I loaned him the money so he could buy his drugs so he could compete. But he never gave me the money back (laughs).

Later he was telling people that he paid me back by providing me with steroid knowledge. First of all this is wrong: he never gave me any knowledge because he would get all his knowledge from me. He likes to be one of these guys who are always the center of attention.

He is one of the most vain bodybuilders. And he has silicone implants in his calves. And he likes to have the reputation as being the trainer of champions and everybody who he is training he is providing with drugs and then he gets a little success with his clients, before moving onto the next one.

Again he is very attention hungry and likes to promote himself and this is why he likes to give out the steroids. Because people wouldn't actually go to him to be trained if they did not get the steroid program they were promised.



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Wow...HOW NICE OF NASSER?

Well, I am somewhat NOT SURPRISED but still wouldn't expect that even low-life like him could fall this low...
But, written words are little bit LOUDER than just said...(in the court of law ;))

Now...Nasser - would you be so kind and confirm this statement...or you are just going to laugh as always and than say: "well...stupid people will believe me as they WANT to believe something like that..."

It was known fact for more than a decade that Nasser was "my first" dramatically transformed athlete who AFTER MY ASSISTANCE became TOP CONTENDER for the Mr. Olympia title.

After placing I believe 7th in 1994 - Nasser moved to San Diego...where I lived.
I welcomed him to my home - as his countryman and "brother of Iron" who lives same kind of life...and who lived in US for several years - so I could be there for him if he needs me.

Besides taking Nasser to see Joe Weider when Joe DIDN'T WANT TO SEE HIM - at my own risk at MY SCHEDULED appointment with Joe - and result of his meeting was his first Weider contract which meant possibility for Nasser to stay in US...I also let him see all my "journals".

Being - SKEPTIC  as he is Nasser didn't want to consider that I would show him my "true journals" accusing me in front of "one of my numerous ex wives" that I just made that journal to "trick him"...
About 10 meals a day, 365 days per year...from 1987 until 1994 (at that time)...with all the supplements + Rx + training/cardio information...

I asked him:" Are you suggesting that I wrote all this for 7 years hoping that one day someone like you could come to my house and I can play a "practical joke" and show him my "fake journals" and trick that person into doing something wrong?"

Nasser looked confused and looked at me (or through me...as you would never know if Nasser is really looking at you or somewhere else...) and pointed out that he doesn't believe I eat THAT MUCH PROTEIN (as I was averaging between 400 and 500 grams a day), that I used INSULIN (as every time he would have taken it he would get FAT)...and...that I use such a low amounts of "Rx" with such a long breaks in between....

My only question to him was: " So you really think I made all these journals all these years with THAT idea in mind - to trick someone?"

He didn't answer.

Every time however when he would come to visit - he would ask me if he can see my journals...and he would analyze them.
Than he asked me if he could take some home - so he could read all of them...and I let him do that (as I did with few more guys I train...as some could maybe confirm).

Needless to say - he came to me at the end of 2004 asking me IF I could explain him WHAT to do and he will start January 1995.

THE REST IS HISTORY.

Nasser made such incredible gains that he immediately became threat for Mr. Olympia title.
First show after my "assistance" was Houston Pro Invitational 1995 which he convincingly won (beating 2-Vince, 3-Achim, 4-John Sherman, 5-me, 6-Ronnie Coleman...).
YES I helped the athlete who was competing against me - and with my help he did manage to beat me (if that is the /LOGICAL/ question some of you would ask... ;). Also, Nasser is NOT the only one whom I helped in direct competition against myself...)

Couple of weeks later - he won Night Of Champions in even more impressive fashion.

Winning his second show in a row was actually 'softening' Nasser to the point that he actually even invited me for his "celebration dinner" in New York (first and only meal he ever treated me with)...
We did have competition - who could eat more sushi (as Nasser was counting freak - counting everything...How many diet cokes he had...how many steps he made...how many floors he have to walk in "Beacon hotel" where elevator was not working...etc)

But - anyway...

Nasser placed 3rd at 1995 Mr. Olympia and for the next 3 years WAS TOP CONTENDER making fantastic living from the sport...and YES - I HAD A LOT TO DO WITH IT (Now, under this circumstances I can tell...)

At that time also - his mother would call me her son...and Nasser was (in rare moments) actually appreciative...and some people in the industry do know that he even made statement - that I gave him $100000.00 -dollar information...

Simply, I did  SOMETHING considerable to help him in his efforts to be successful IFBB pro.

To "return" me a favor - Nasser told me how he used "PLASMA EXPANDERS" which he supposedly learned from Chad...and as his information was identical to instructions I got from Chad.
THAT IS EXTEND OF NASSER'S KNOWLEDGE "I got from him" as he so proudly said...

The problem is - his and Chad's information was WRONG...and as I read years later in MD Chad's article PLASMA EXPANDERS and learned that Chad and his athlete who he called jokester were laughing their as..s off (as he wrote in that article) after they realized how they managed to trick one nutritionist into believing them HOW TO USE PE...

Two guys who I helped with priceless information which really catapulted both of their careers in sign of their gratitude and appreciation told me how to pretty much - kill myself...using IV solution in certain way that could indeed be deleterious...

They were also laughing as they were hoping (as Chad stated in the article) how other bodybuilders will also listen to that "nutritionist" and try the same...

I was so pissed off that I started PLASMA EXPENDER'S DEBATE on the net...(Chad's site, mine...and getbig...)
Peter Mc Gough, Tom Prince, Chad, Shawn...and others got involved...and I am sure that debate is still somewhere on the net...

But, what is NOT said so far...when DEA investigated me - they indeed chose to subpoena Nasser and Chad...MAYBE THEIR STATEMENTS will soon to be public record?

Well, it looks like Nasser had something to say...so I would like to ask him few more questions...to MAKE THIS OFFICIAL... ;)

Maybe Nasser could remember the way he gave me his "loan"...Was it cash, check, credit card OR SOMETHING ELSE...valued at whatever amount....
Any additional details are welcome...

What's more - how come he waited 12 years to "remind" me that I owe him money?






THOUSENDS OF THANK YOUS MILOS! FOR WHAT ? eVER SINCE ARNOLD 95 i WONDERED HOW IN THE WORLD DID NASSER MANAGE TO MAKE SUCH A JUMP IN WEIGHT AND CONDITION. rON lOVE DID NOT KNOW THAT U WERE RESPONSIBLE ALTHOUGH HE POINTED OUT THAT IT MIGHT BE THAT HE EXPERIMENTED WITH INSULIN AND FOUND A FORMULA THAT WORKED . s THANX FOR CLEARING UP A 12 YO RIDDLE . ;)

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Re: MILOS: Nasser says you owe him money
« Reply #31 on: October 28, 2007, 12:09:24 PM »
the truth is probably somewhere in the middle somewhere in all of this. when nasser started winning there were a few people that took credit for teaching nasser how to use insulin. there was an article written a long time ago i copied i believe off of anbolic extreme that used fictious names that was talking about nasser when he blewup off of insulin. it said he dropped down because he was worried about how the judges would accept him gaining so much in a yr.
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Re: MILOS: Nasser says you owe him money
« Reply #32 on: October 28, 2007, 12:36:58 PM »
from what I understand....

Nass thinks or believes....everyone is out after him.  Not sure what's bringing on the paranoia....but he thinks everyone is out to use him.

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Re: MILOS: Nasser says you owe him money
« Reply #33 on: October 28, 2007, 12:37:46 PM »
oh...& maybe someone can explain why Nass only travels with a posse?


Kind of weird if you ask me.

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Re: MILOS: Nasser says you owe him money
« Reply #34 on: October 28, 2007, 12:43:20 PM »
It is common knowledge in bodybuilding circles that Nasser is intimidated by Milos; always has been.

Milos dont waste another thought on this 'nobody'.  Nasser has 'issues' with everyone and everything.  He is a sad and pathetic individual who takes pleasure in the game of 'character assassination'.

Great post Milos, thanks for shedding some light on this shady and loathed man they call ' Nasser, the unattractive one'.

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Re: MILOS: Nasser says you owe him money
« Reply #35 on: October 28, 2007, 12:56:59 PM »
damn. didn't know nasser was such a douchebag. but what can you expect from someone selling soiled posing trunks...  :-\

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Re: MILOS: Nasser says you owe him money
« Reply #36 on: October 28, 2007, 04:42:11 PM »
Ah yes, the lap of luxury.  :-\



How does that imply that he's not doing well financially?  Do financially independent people not have health problems?

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Re: MILOS: Nasser says you owe him money
« Reply #37 on: October 28, 2007, 04:43:34 PM »
It is common knowledge in bodybuilding circles that Nasser is intimidated by Milos; always has been.

Yeah, Nasser intimidated of someone who was never a threat to his placings?  Yes, I'm in the top 3 at the Mr. Olympia but I'm intimidated by someone who will never make top 6 lol.

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Re: MILOS: Nasser says you owe him money
« Reply #38 on: October 28, 2007, 04:44:29 PM »
Great response by Milos!  So basically Milos is responsible for Nasser’s success and transformation post-94!   ::)

Most of Milos’ reply is about how he discussed his training journals with Nasser, which I don’t see how is relevant to the topic of the thread and accusation that Milos borrowed $2550 from Nasser never to pay him back?  Then near the end he implies that Nasser simply made it up?  So basically Milos gave Nasser the secrets to move up in the ranks after 94, and then in response 12 years later Nasser for no reason blatantly makes up that Milos borrowed $2550 for him?  Wonder where he got that number from. Yup, that sounds like a realistic scenario! 

You’re trying to use to your advantage the fact that Nasser was above repeatedly hounding you over $2550 and instead left it in your hands, to finally get frustrated and come out 12 years later about it, by questioning why he would 12 years lol.

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Re: MILOS: Nasser says you owe him money
« Reply #39 on: October 28, 2007, 05:09:49 PM »
I don't believe for a second that Chad never used the plasma expanders on any of his athletes like he claimed on Muscle Mayhem. I know "TooPowerful4U" on this forum claims he knows for a fact that hotel staff found a IV drip stand in Ronnie's room at the Olympia a couple of years ago. Anyone hear this?

Chad also said that Milos was not the "nutritionist" they were laughing at. Don't know about that.

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Re: MILOS: Nasser says you owe him money
« Reply #40 on: October 28, 2007, 05:24:12 PM »
the truth is probably somewhere in the middle somewhere in all of this.

Exactly.

My guess is that Milos does indeed owe Nasser money for steroids, but Nasser did not want to admit that it was he himself who fronted them to Milos.  He doesn't want to incriminate himself as a juice dealer yet on the other hand is openly making Milos look bad (or at least cheap).  Something along these lines make more sense to me, but it is just my opinion.
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Re: MILOS: Nasser says you owe him money
« Reply #41 on: October 28, 2007, 05:46:07 PM »
Nasser is a moose-lamb, which by definition means he is lying, destructive, scumbag.
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Re: MILOS: Nasser says you owe him money
« Reply #42 on: October 28, 2007, 05:58:15 PM »
I can confirm as being one of Milos's athletes to have seen his journals!!! Milos was so kind to let me borrow his 1999 journal in which he competing in every Ifbb show they had that year!! to the exact time and exact letter all his info was there!!!! It was like a bible to me!

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Re: MILOS: Nasser says you owe him money
« Reply #43 on: October 28, 2007, 06:00:07 PM »
I can confirm as being one of Milos's athletes to have seen his journals!!! Milos was so kind to let me borrow his 1999 journal in which he competing in every Ifbb show they had that year!! to the exact time and exact letter all his info was there!!!! It was like a bible to me!



...and yet you still only placed marginally higher than Jocellyn Pelletier...
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Re: MILOS: Nasser says you owe him money
« Reply #44 on: October 28, 2007, 06:17:38 PM »
I can confirm as being one of Milos's athletes to have seen his journals!!! Milos was so kind to let me borrow his 1999 journal in which he competing in every Ifbb show they had that year!! to the exact time and exact letter all his info was there!!!! It was like a bible to me!

What am I not getting here?  How are Milos' journals at all relevant to the topic at hand of borrowing money and not paying back?  Even most of Milos' response was about his journals.   ???

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Re: MILOS: Nasser says you owe him money
« Reply #45 on: October 28, 2007, 08:54:53 PM »
To all the guys from TEAM NAZI: Milos just owned you all
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Re: MILOS: Nasser says you owe him money
« Reply #46 on: October 28, 2007, 09:04:22 PM »
What am I not getting here?  How are Milos' journals at all relevant to the topic at hand of borrowing money and not paying back?  Even most of Milos' response was about his journals.   ???


...twelve years later the $2550 claim, and calf-implant claim surfaces.  If this was true, in those twelve years, we would've heard about it.

Which is more benneficial for a BB-hopeful: Milos' journal; or a scumbag's soiled old trunks?  Milos has paid his dues for the sport of pro-BB.  He's a very successful athelete, who only wants to help his comrade-BB-ers to reach maximum potential; even if they have to compete against him.  Whether the $2550 claim is true or untrue, Milos would've paid it in cash.

I read Nasser's Part 1 and 2 interview.  This $2550 claim is the only most interresting topic, of the interview. Why was he interviewed again?  What has Nasser really done to help his fellow competitors (including Milos); other than getting and comparing the free advice from Milos and Chad?  Nothing!! But he placed well, from information! You did your homework really well, you SNAKE!

Nasser when you decide to have your own protien drink, you should call it "FREE-LOADER"...add your old trunks and call it a deuche-bag combo.

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Re: MILOS: Nasser says you owe him money
« Reply #47 on: October 28, 2007, 09:15:53 PM »

"Blah blah blarg"..

Maybe Nasser could remember the way he gave me his "loan"...Was it cash, check, credit card OR SOMETHING ELSE...valued at whatever amount....
Any additional details are welcome...

What's more - how come he waited 12 years to "remind" me that I owe him money?

This part seems pretty cut and dry, to me at least.  The rest I'm sure has its truth falling somewhere in the middle.  BTW Milos, you have my complete respect in the world of BB, you have brought clear, rational thought to a sport quite often devoid of and instead filled to overflow with ego and spite.  Everyone everywhere has an agenda they are pushing, you are not exempt from this, however you appear to have the best interest of the sport ultimately at heart.  Everyone must make their own decisions.

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Re: MILOS: Nasser says you owe him money
« Reply #48 on: October 28, 2007, 10:08:18 PM »
This part seems pretty cut and dry, to me at least.  The rest I'm sure has its truth falling somewhere in the middle.  BTW Milos, you have my complete respect in the world of BB, you have brought clear, rational thought to a sport quite often devoid of and instead filled to overflow with ego and spite.  Everyone everywhere has an agenda they are pushing, you are not exempt from this, however you appear to have the best interest of the sport ultimately at heart.  Everyone must make their own decisions.

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...well said/written Luinitari.

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Re: MILOS: Nasser says you owe him money
« Reply #49 on: October 28, 2007, 10:18:46 PM »
Yeah that PE thing was a huge guise, that went on for a long time.


Someone got that stored?