Lets Discuss "THE CORE"....

[Camel Jockey]

BOOM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 

[Army of One]

BOOM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 

[peroni]

Hahahahah, this idiot is giving out "advices":

hahahhaha? "advices"?  "idiot"? learn some anatomy. You quoted my post from early oct as if I said something incorrect. I don't get it.
  Learn how the body works before you keep making a fool of yourself

[peroni]

You told me nothing new, I meant abs and lower back as a generalisation, I still think its a bunch of bullshit, deads and some crunches are all these "core" people need, are you a PT?Do you have 12inch arms and a certificate?

I told you the anatomical fact. That obviously is new to you since you refer to the core as the abs.
I have 19 inch arms and sub %10 bodyfat I own a gym and make a lot of money training people and have done so for the past 14 years Unlike you, I'm educated how the body works and I make a very good living helping others as opposed to sitting in my parents house hogging their computer and raving about how I don't understand the basics

Deads and crunches are fine. Even great. The point is, the better core stability you have, the better you'll perform these other exercises and the more benefits you'll reap from them.
In case you're curious, you don't need an ab ball or specialized "gay" equip in order to strengthen the core. That works, but people don't have the time and patience when what they really want is visible results. What also is effective, however, is doing the exercises correctly over and over and supplementing with a little direct core action. That's plenty for most people.

[Croatch]

I told you the anatomical fact. That obviously is new to you since you refer to the core as the abs.
I have 19 inch arms and sub %10 bodyfat I own a gym and make a lot of money training people and have done so for the past 14 years Unlike you, I'm educated how the body works and I make a very good living helping others as opposed to sitting in my parents house hogging their computer and raving about how I don't understand the basics

Deads and crunches are fine. Even great. The point is, the better core stability you have, the better you'll perform these other exercises and the more benefits you'll reap from them.
In case you're curious, you don't need an ab ball or specialized "gay" equip in order to strengthen the core. That works, but people don't have the time and patience when what they really want is visible results. What also is effective, however, is doing the exercises correctly over and over and supplementing with a little direct core action. That's plenty for most people.

Does Ronnie Coleman work on his core?  I would think he'd want to be pretty stable when squatting 800lbs.

[The Coach]

You told me nothing new, I meant abs and lower back as a generalisation, I still think its a bunch of bullshit, deads and some crunches are all these "core" people need, are you a PT?Do you have 12inch arms and a certificate?

No, it's not BS, the problem is you're so brainwashed by standard BBing-type workouts you can't (or truly don't know better) see beyond that, besides hip dominant training, core and posterior chain training is next. If Milos really wants to debate about TRAINING sport-specific training is my specialty, he can deal with the BBing crap, but when it comes to training athletes.....he can leave that too me!!

[Andre Nickatina]

I told you the anatomical fact. That obviously is new to you since you refer to the core as the abs.
I have 19 inch arms and sub %10 bodyfat I own a gym and make a lot of money training people and have done so for the past 14 years Unlike you, I'm educated how the body works and I make a very good living helping others as opposed to sitting in my parents house hogging their computer and raving about how I don't understand the basics

Deads and crunches are fine. Even great. The point is, the better core stability you have, the better you'll perform these other exercises and the more benefits you'll reap from them.
In case you're curious, you don't need an ab ball or specialized "gay" equip in order to strengthen the core. That works, but people don't have the time and patience when what they really want is visible results. What also is effective, however, is doing the exercises correctly over and over and supplementing with a little direct core action. That's plenty for most people.

Oh wow here we have the next Charles Glass  

[TacoBell]

I told you the anatomical fact. That obviously is new to you since you refer to the core as the abs.
I have 19 inch arms and sub %10 bodyfat I own a gym and make a lot of money training people and have done so for the past 14 years Unlike you, I'm educated how the body works and I make a very good living helping others as opposed to sitting in my parents house hogging their computer and raving about how I don't understand the basics

Bwaaaaahhhhhhhhh!!!
Wow a huge ripped rich dude.  You're like 1 in a million around here

Though i agree with you on many of your points lay off the I'm 400lbs 1%bf millionaire crap.

[Stubborn]

The word "core" has a terrible stigma attatched to it. This is mostly due to the fact that a certain 24 hour gym uses it to death and the only people that will pedal it are tiny, semi-lean, never worked out a day in their life, weaklings. I have a hard time even thinking about the word without disgust coming over me.

It IS important but you can hit it harder without a freakin ball than you can with. You dont have to do standing front raises with one foot off the ground to affect the core.

[JOHN MATRIX]

'the core' and those gay balls are for fagggots

hope this heps

[gordiano]

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[gtbro1]

[Stubborn]

Check out these beasts....

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Talk about gay, damn! "The only way to get lean abs like ours is to strengthen your core with gaynal sex on a physio ball, fellas."

[Army of One]

I told you the anatomical fact. That obviously is new to you since you refer to the core as the abs.
I have 19 inch arms and sub %10 bodyfat I own a gym and make a lot of money training people and have done so for the past 14 years Unlike you, I'm educated how the body works and I make a very good living helping others as opposed to sitting in my parents house hogging their computer and raving about how I don't understand the basics

Deads and crunches are fine. Even great. The point is, the better core stability you have, the better you'll perform these other exercises and the more benefits you'll reap from them.
In case you're curious, you don't need an ab ball or specialized "gay" equip in order to strengthen the core. That works, but people don't have the time and patience when what they really want is visible results. What also is effective, however, is doing the exercises correctly over and over and supplementing with a little direct core action. That's plenty for most people.

HAHAHA Another Internet Millionaire with 19inch arms 

[Havenbull]

You are the one who doesn't seem to know a thing about anatomy or fitness. The core is the epicenter of the bodies movement. It's where all movements start and how your body stabilizes. The core is not your abs. Go read a book and learn something before spouting foolishness.

The core is underneath your abs and also includes the erector spinae (lower back). You need me to list the core muscles for you or are you going to pull out a basic anatomy book and see for yourself?

You don't actually believe this bullshit do you?

[Army of One]

You don't actually believe this bullshit do you?

Peroni's Boyfriend tells him that core exercises stabilise him from falling off the bed when Peroni is banging him doggystyle.

[Havenbull]

Peroni's Boyfriend tells him that core exercises stabilise him from falling off the bed when Peroni is banging him doggystyle.

Impossible !!!  peroni's is so poor he sleeps on a thin mat.  No way his boyfried could fall off that.

[peroni]

Bwaaaaahhhhhhhhh!!!
Wow a huge ripped rich dude.  You're like 1 in a million around here

Though i agree with you on many of your points lay off the I'm 400lbs 1%bf millionaire crap.

I'm not a huge ripped rich dude. I'm in pretty good shape and I make a comfortable living for my family. Nuff said. That's completely irrelevant and I regretted posting that stuff but somehow people equate being a trainer with 11 inch arms and a lack of knowledge. That's not the case in the real world every time. Just in certain gyms. There's a handful of people that constantly educate themselves in order to better their understanding in their chosen profession. I don't claim to be the next charles glass or better than anyone else. I do claim to understand what the core is and how to stabilize the body, however, which was the whole point of this thread.

[Army of One]

Impossible !!!  peroni's boyfriend is so poor he sleeps on a thin mat.  No way his boyfried could fall off that.

Are you suggesting that "peroni" makes his boyfriend wear a leather mask and crotchless leather trousers, after which he whips him for not being a man like "peroni" because he doesnt do swiss ball crunches?

[peroni]

You don't actually believe this bullshit do you?

Believe what? What's in every anatomy book?

[peroni]

Impossible !!!  peroni's is so poor he sleeps on a thin mat.  No way his boyfried could fall off that.

I don't have a thin mat. I can't afford one so my boyfriend and I just snuggle in our cardboard box under the freeway overpass.

[The Coach]

Ok, serious question to those who think that "core" or core training is BS.......Why do you think that way and more so, why do you think that some of the methods used in core training is BS??

[Zach Trowbridge]

Ok, serious question to those who think that "core" or core training is BS.......Why do you think that way and more so, why do you think that some of the methods used in core training is BS??

Having worked at 24 hour fitness for almost 2 years, I can say that I'm just tired of hearing about "core this" and "stabilizers that".  Considering that 90% of the clients who are tought this stuff just want to lose a few pounds and gain a little muscle, it's completely unnecessary.  The 24 hour training protocol can have entire 50-minute sessions of nothing but "core training."  Then when it comes to back training it's 2 sets of single-leg standing cable rows.  I know the theories behind it and controlling your midsection and core is a big help in lifts like the big 3 - bench/dead/squat, but it's such a stupid buzzword now it makes me want to choke myself.

[Stubborn]

Having worked at 24 hour fitness for almost 2 years, I can say that I'm just tired of hearing about "core this" and "stabilizers that".  Considering that 90% of the clients who are tought this stuff just want to lose a few pounds and gain a little muscle, it's completely unnecessary.  The 24 hour training protocol can have entire 50-minute sessions of nothing but "core training."  Then when it comes to back training it's 2 sets of single-leg standing cable rows.  I know the theories behind it and controlling your midsection and core is a big help in lifts like the big 3 - bench/dead/squat, but it's such a stupid buzzword now it makes me want to choke myself.

Word!

[knny187]

Ok, serious question to those who think that "core" or core training is BS.......Why do you think that way and more so, why do you think that some of the methods used in core training is BS??

I prefer to call it functional fitness

For those people that are just everyday people....they need functional (or useable) fitness that can be applied to everyday living.

Benchpresses, squats, deadlifts, etc...wouldn't be ideal for most