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Re: gh15 is officially a few beers short of a six-pack!
« Reply #575 on: November 27, 2007, 08:43:11 PM »
this informsation regarding roswel and the exsistance of vehicles in michael afb and not area 51 was given me by an israeli mossad agent which is one of my friends a very very good one to be exact in 1996,,i used to think bob lazar was a loonateek when he talked about s4 in the 80s but when my friend confirmed couple of the things bob lazar said
it was enough for me because even before she said it ..i would give my right and left arms for her

Thanks.

The thing about Mr.Lazar is that there seems to be many inconsistencies in his story.  He claims to be a MIT grad, yet there are no records of him graduating from MIT.  I believe his high school transcript was also traced and revealed his marks to be not any where near the standard that MIT sets forth.  On the other hand, doesn't/didn't he hold the world record for fastest rocket car?  that would surely make him a qualified candidate to work on state of the art advanced propulsion systems.   

One thing is for certain, he definetly lost ALOT more when he came forth with his story then he gained. 

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« Reply #576 on: November 27, 2007, 08:57:50 PM »
Thanks.

The thing about Mr.Lazar is that there seems to be many inconsistencies in his story.  He claims to be a MIT grad, yet there are no records of him graduating from MIT.  I believe his high school transcript was also traced and revealed his marks to be not any where near the standard that MIT sets forth.  On the other hand, doesn't/didn't he hold the world record for fastest rocket car?  that would surely make him a qualified candidate to work on state of the art advanced propulsion systems.   

One thing is for certain, he definetly lost ALOT more when he came forth with his story then he gained. 

dont know the dude,,i used to think he was an insane fella though that wanted attention until i was explained how specific sections of the goverment and military work,,if they want you they get you! period  and they wanted him enough to erase his life yet not murder him ,,i guess because murdering him would give a big shout to the world hey he was a good man he was right,,so what do you do when you cant murder someone ? you erased their life via what the goverment can touch like school....work ...experience....nak accounts..etc etc..one thing they forgot though! they forgot to erase his name from a phone list of are 51 employees found in later years under the name robert lazar,,little yet important detail,,he also seem to always say the same thing with not even minor change for all those years and even now,,i know he is not lying via diff source but he passed the lie detector which i dont give 2 shits about but stil some do...he never did a dime from his story ...he got used misued and made laughing stock out of him...he lost more than he gained because he couldnt do nothing with what he gained because he didnt know how to fly the damn thing or didnt have element 115 configured,,
when specific sections of the goverment want you ....they will get you ...you just need to be worth it...he was
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« Reply #577 on: November 27, 2007, 08:59:03 PM »

Why would a superior civilization help build a pyramid out of stone blocks? That seems primitive in the extreme. Where are any items from that advanced civilization that cannot be from this world?

That's somewhat egocentric crap. How can you even begin to contemplate the motives of any extra-terrestrial society within the constraints of your human mind.

There is nothing at all unreasonable with GH15s take on the pyramids - of course nor is it fact.

The existence of the universe, as we define it, and therein life, could be attributed to an intelligent being (God, Allah, etc) or by explained by a scientific theory, a credible example of which has not yet been hypothesized.

Now if you believe that an omnipotent God, for which no evidence exists, is looking down on us and ready to burn most of us in hell, then how can you possibly argue against the potential for extra-terrestrial life.

If fact, if you believe in science, and given the scale of the universe, then it is statistically very improbable for earth to be unique in supporting life. If other life exists elsewhere in the universe, then it is probable that humans would be, relatively, neither advanced nor primitive......ie there is likely to be far more advanced beings elsewhere in the universe. How or why they would bother to leave behind some pyramids we will probably never know, at least in the absence of a complete theory of the universe and all life within it, or an explanation from God.

 

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« Reply #578 on: November 27, 2007, 09:13:35 PM »
lol everyone give up now gh15 is owning everyone who doesn't agree with him in this subject but actually keep it coming haha it's funny to watch u punks get owned  :D

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« Reply #579 on: November 27, 2007, 09:16:24 PM »
Good grief, Harry, is that an argument supporting extraterrestrial visits?

I accept that the known universe is immense beyond belief. Grasping the vast distances between the stars, let alone galaxies, makes it highly unlikely that any other intelligent life might be in our local area and visited us. If we accept that it took billions of years for intelligent life to evolve then it is also unlikely that any two civilizations will coexist.

One thing seems to be self-evident. Where is the hard evidence of any visit? Zero. Absolutely nothing at all. Just stories and guesses by stellar intellects who think that believing something makes it true. It may be that intelligent life is extremely rare in the universe. It is possible, but unlikely, that we are the only intelligent life. It seems to be a lonely place. Instead of an avalanche of radio waves from distant civilizations we detect nothing at all.

To attribute unknown motives to extraterrestrials is just another trick to 'explain' why we haven't detected them and why they never left even rubbish behind. There is no doubt in my mind that a visit from outter space would have been recorded by witnesses, just as primitive societies recorded visits by Europeans many centuries ago. The news would be so important that it would be near impossible not to broadcast it. To suggest it has been covered up is merely masking the lack of any hard evidence. In the meantime, loonies will congregate and discuss what might be out there. At the moment it is pure science fiction.

I haven't investigated in any thorough fashion the history and structure of the pyramids. If I were to do so I am positive I would be able to give a good account of the construction and materials. The statements made here lack any substance and rigour. That is exactly what you expect when discussing matters in a pub. That is far short of being an acceptable argument in academic circles.

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« Reply #580 on: November 27, 2007, 09:20:04 PM »

"...There is nothing at all unreasonable with GH15s take on the pyramids..."

 

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« Reply #581 on: November 27, 2007, 09:23:37 PM »
lol everyone give up now gh15 is owning everyone who doesn't agree with him in this subject but actually keep it coming haha it's funny to watch u punks get owned  :D

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« Reply #582 on: November 27, 2007, 09:24:07 PM »
Good grief, Harry, is that an argument supporting extraterrestrial visits?

I accept that the known universe is immense beyond belief. Grasping the vast distances between the stars, let alone galaxies, makes it highly unlikely that any other intelligent life might be in our local area and visited us. If we accept that it took billions of years for intelligent life to evolve then it is also unlikely that any two civilizations will coexist.

One thing seems to be self-evident. Where is the hard evidence of any visit? Zero. Absolutely nothing at all. Just stories and guesses by stellar intellects who think that believing something makes it true. It may be that intelligent life is extremely rare in the universe. It is possible, but unlikely, that we are the only intelligent life. It seems to be a lonely place. Instead of an avalanche of radio waves from distant civilizations we detect nothing at all.

To attribute unknown motives to extraterrestrials is just another trick to 'explain' why we haven't detected them and why they never left even rubbish behind. There is no doubt in my mind that a visit from outter space would have been recorded by witnesses, just as primitive societies recorded visits by Europeans many centuries ago. The news would be so important that it would be near impossible not to broadcast it. To suggest it has been covered up is merely masking the lack of any hard evidence. In the meantime, loonies will congregate and discuss what might be out there. At the moment it is pure science fiction.

I haven't investigated in any thorough fashion the history and structure of the pyramids. If I were to do so I am positive I would be able to give a good account of the construction and materials. The statements made here lack any substance and rigour. That is exactly what you expect when discussing matters in a pub. That is far short of being an acceptable argument in academic circles.


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« Reply #583 on: November 27, 2007, 09:40:14 PM »
Good grief, Harry, is that an argument supporting extraterrestrial visits?

I accept that the known universe is immense beyond belief. Grasping the vast distances between the stars, let alone galaxies, makes it highly unlikely that any other intelligent life might be in our local area and visited us. If we accept that it took billions of years for intelligent life to evolve then it is also unlikely that any two civilizations will coexist.

One thing seems to be self-evident. Where is the hard evidence of any visit? Zero. Absolutely nothing at all. Just stories and guesses by stellar intellects who think that believing something makes it true. It may be that intelligent life is extremely rare in the universe. It is possible, but unlikely, that we are the only intelligent life. It seems to be a lonely place. Instead of an avalanche of radio waves from distant civilizations we detect nothing at all.

To attribute unknown motives to extraterrestrials is just another trick to 'explain' why we haven't detected them and why they never left even rubbish behind. There is no doubt in my mind that a visit from outter space would have been recorded by witnesses, just as primitive societies recorded visits by Europeans many centuries ago. The news would be so important that it would be near impossible not to broadcast it. To suggest it has been covered up is merely masking the lack of any hard evidence. In the meantime, loonies will congregate and discuss what might be out there. At the moment it is pure science fiction.

I haven't investigated in any thorough fashion the history and structure of the pyramids. If I were to do so I am positive I would be able to give a good account of the construction and materials. The statements made here lack any substance and rigour. That is exactly what you expect when discussing matters in a pub. That is far short of being an acceptable argument in academic circles.


i seriously like the way you write your words vince and though serioulsy like it dont agree with it

you ask for evidence aboutr something that is tc40,,you asked for evidence that people can not give you because the evidence is sitting in s4 and michael afb,,

the funny part is that area 51 (that s4 is part of it) even to this days is surrounded by 1000s of miles and akers or land that belong to the goverment,,,just coulple years ago they extended it to include the only place you could see area 51 from with good view,,so now you cant even see it from that place,,

are 51 to this day though not active with extra terestrial vehicles because they located in s4 and cant fuckin fly because element 115 is not from this earth so only testing can be done but not real fly by our guys,,thisd area 51 as i said doesnt have offical turn into or official road ,,,from the high it go into a dirt road that goes miles over miles 10s of miles into other dirt roads and only after long drive you get to the signs that warn you about the ability of the us goverment to bascially shoot you in the head with not much talk,,before you get to those signs which are still 10s od miles from the enterance that is another 100 miles from the actual base...before you get to those signs...you  have the local "private" security agency that keep the "desert" safe from the snakes and the lizards...

then you got unmarked cars every where over the desert just sitting and watching your every moivements,,you got sensors in the ground that detect human from other animals,,you have sound detectors every where there in proximity to the signs which are still 100 miles from any base,,you choppers flying above you from time to time the moment you enter the desert road which is about 150-200 miles from base in an empty desert,,,you got no restrooms ,,condition are suited perfectlyt for slow death if your car is out of luck and out of gas,,,

vince my friend,,,,the goverment keep on buying the grounds of desert surrounding a base that is not even active anymore with extra terestrial from within the 51 area and only have vehicles in the s4 section of it hidden in a moutain range and is not tracable to the eye because its looks like a damn moutain rocks and not hungers,,the govermet keep black budget only for this reason ,,,and its not the president who sign on it,,,it is BLACK BUDGET dealt by specific section of goverment and mainly military that dont have to report the goverment everything ,,,same as good old pakistan in that manner only in the good ole usa

NO BODY ON EARTH WILL GO TO THIS EFFORTS INORDER TO HIDE AN LESS THAN AVERAGE ACTIVE BASE,,A BASE THAT DOESNT EVEN TAKE THE NEW CAPTUREED VEHICLES AND DEADS IN IT IF AND WHEN CAPTURED,,NO BODY ON EARTH WOULD WASTE SO MUCH MONEY FOR LITTLE AREA S4 IF IT WAS FOR THE INFAMOUS BLACK BIRD AND F117 STELTH FIGHTER WHICH IS THE ONLY THING THAT WE COMPLETELY BUILT SINCE THE 1960S,,NO BODY WASTE THAT MUCH MONEY ON A MINIMAL ACTIVITY BASE THAT COULD EASILY BE CONTROLLED BY 100 SOLDIERS ,,,YET IN REALITY YOU HAVE THE EMPLOYEES OF AREA 51 (S4 INCLUDED) HAVE 2 OPTIONS...OPTION 1 IS TO LEAVE THEIR CAR IN THE CIVILIAN AIRPORT IN LAS VEGAS AND FLY WITH COMMERCIAL AIRPLANE BELONG TO THE MILITARY/AIRFORCE TO THE BASE..THEY HAVE TO WEAR CIVILIAN CLOTHES AND TAKE NOTHING IN,,,OPTION NUMBER 2 IS TO TAEK A BUS BELONG TO THE MILITARY INTO THE BASE AND ALL RULES I WROTE APPLY TO IT TOO SAME AS FLIGHT,,

NO ONE WIL GO TO THIS DETAILS TO HIDE EARTHLY CORN OR COWS OR 1950S AIRPLANES,,NO ONE!
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Re: gh15 is officially a few beers short of a six-pack!
« Reply #584 on: November 27, 2007, 09:55:21 PM »
"Hi, I'm from the planet Pyramidiot.  Take me to your leader!"

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« Reply #585 on: November 27, 2007, 10:02:40 PM »
gh15, I'm gonna miss you if you ever go away.   :)

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« Reply #586 on: November 27, 2007, 10:51:54 PM »
This discussion is pointless. gh15, despite large muscles and a few neurons, is unable to penetrate the many barriers to access the hard proof so necessary to establish his credibility. It seems rational to suspend belief in anything extraterrestrial until complete hard evidence is available to public scrutiny and inspection. It remains an interesting problem to actually decide what criterion must be met for any artifact or physical object to be considered extraterrestrial. At the moment the conspiracy theory 'protects' the wannabe believers. I remain sceptical that there has been any such visit. The believers have all the answers but absolutely no explanations of anything at all. That constitutes the null set and a rational, informed and educated person must suspend judgement on this subject and remain sceptical that any visit ever occurred. The onus is on the believers. So far they all give us exactly the same thing: nothing at all. No hard evidence. All we get are excuses. That is the stuff of religious and not scientific belief. You fellows should join the Watchtower people and go about knocking on doors to talk to anyone who will listen to you. Too bad there are sufficient knuckleheads on Getbig to keep gh15 amused.

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« Reply #587 on: November 27, 2007, 11:12:00 PM »
savastase,

There are less than 100 granite blocks on the entire Giza plateau.

I think you are referring to the massive monolith blocks used to build the two central chambers in the Great pyramid. These blocks may well have been A-framed into position, or pulled up a small, stepped ramp (turned over as they were raised each level).

There is also the possibility that the granite blocks aren't red granite at all.

They could be "Code stone"; a form of luxury, waterproof concrete that resembles fine grain granite when set... the Egyptians used granite to make fine or ceremonial statues. Recent x-ray studies of several of these statues have shown that they are riddled with air bubbles and most probably cast, not carved statues.

At Luxor there is a line of statue sphinxes either side of the central walkway, each and every one of them has a small (identical chip) missing from its right ear... that is pretty sound evidence for the use of mold-casting in statue making in ancient Egypt.

My opinion would be that pretty much everything on the Giza plateau is concrete... I reckon Imhotep, the original pyramid architect actually was the Grand Master Mason of Masonic tradition, or possibly he is a conflation of Imhotep and Hiram Abiff (architect of Solomon's Temple). It just makes sense that the so-called "lost secrets of the Grand Master Mason" is the secret of making concrete and Code stone (Code stone wasn't re-invented till the 19th century.

One thing is certain, the majority of ancient Cyclopean architecture (giant blocks) is the result of concrete.

The only people who can't accept this are the scientifically illiterate and/or New Age quasi-religious Alien deifying weirdos.

gh15 is a moron, and presumably a gimmick. (Alex23's most probably)



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Well , I'd love to debate with u but u need to get your ass to do some research. EVERYTHING ON THOSE PYRAMIDS IS CARVED STONE SONNY.  ;)


And another thing THAT IS SO OBVIOUS EVERYONE IS MISSING THE MAIN POINT :





  THE PYRAMIDS WERE BUILT AROUND 11400 bc ....THOUSANDS OF YEARS BEFORE THE EGYPTIANS EVEN EXISTED. THE BUILDING OF THE GIZA ONE LASTED 100 YEARS AND WAS DONE WITH CARVING AND ANTIGRAVITY METHODS ALIEN TO US AT THIS POINT. IF U WANNA LEARN ABOUT THE PYRAMIDS , U ARE LOOKING IN THE WRONG PLACE. THE EGYPTIANS TOOK CREDIT FOR THE GIZA PLATEAU AND EVEN FUCKED WITH THE SPHYNX FACE BUT TO NO AVAIL BECAUSE THESE STRUCTURES PRECEED THE EGYPTIAN CIVILIZATION BY A GOOD FEW 1000'S YEARS. THEY WERE BUILT FOR A FEW DIFFERENT PURPOSES :

1. TO SERVE AS PORTALS FOR THE TRANSITIONS IN A NEW STATE OF CONSCIOUSNES ( 4TH DIM TRANSITION)

2. TO SERVE AS AN INDICATION FOR WHO WE ARE, WHERE WE COME FROM , WHAT HAPPENED TILL NOW , WHY , AND WHERE WE ARE GOING . THE LANGUAGE CHOSEN WAS ONE WE CAN UNDERSTAND AT THIS POINT OF OUR DEVELOPEMENT . IT'S CALLED MATH . THERE IS ALSO A PHYSICAL HALL OF RECORDS THAT WILL BE DISCOVERED WHEN WE ARE FIT TO DO SO . ( AS OF NOW WE ARE TOO DUMB TO HAVE SOMETHING LIKE THAT REVEALED TO US : SEE DONKEY KONG, THE LUKE , ETC )

3. THE MOST OVERLOOKED REASON FOR THE STURDINESS, SIZE AND PLACEMENT OF THE GIZA PLATEAU , IS SO THAT IT SURVIVED THE LAST SHIFTING OF THE MAGNETIC POLES 11500 BC WHICH CAUSED MASSIVE NATURAL CATACLISMS ( SEE THE GREAT FLOOD )


SO LUKE : I THINK YOU ARE TRYING TO BE IN THE CUANTUM PHYSICS CLASS BUT U JUST FINISHED LEARNING HOW TO ADD AND SUBSTRACT .  ;)

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« Reply #588 on: November 27, 2007, 11:21:00 PM »
Well , I'd love to debate with u but u need to get your ass to do some research. EVERYTHING ON THOSE PYRAMIDS IS CARVED STONE SONNY.  ;)


And another thing THAT IS SO OBVIOUS EVERYONE IS MISSING THE MAIN POINT :





  THE PYRAMIDS WERE BUILT AROUND 11400 bc ....THOUSANDS OF YEARS BEFORE THE EGYPTIANS EVEN EXISTED. THE BUILDING OF THE GIZA ONE LASTED 100 YEARS AND WAS DONE WITH CARVING AND ANTIGRAVITY METHODS ALIEN TO US AT THIS POINT. IF U WANNA LEARN ABOUT THE PYRAMIDS , U ARE LOOKING IN THE WRONG PLACE. THE EGYPTIANS TOOK CREDIT FOR THE GIZA PLATEAU AND EVEN FUCKED WITH THE SPHYNX FACE BUT TO NO AVAIL BECAUSE THESE STRUCTURES PRECEED THE EGYPTIAN CIVILIZATION BY A GOOD FEW 1000'S YEARS. THEY WERE BUILT FOR A FEW DIFFERENT PURPOSES :

1. TO SERVE AS PORTALS FOR THE TRANSITIONS IN A NEW STATE OF CONSCIOUSNES ( 4TH DIM TRANSITION)

2. TO SERVE AS AN INDICATION FOR WHO WE ARE, WHERE WE COME FROM , WHAT HAPPENED TILL NOW , WHY , AND WHERE WE ARE GOING . THE LANGUAGE CHOSEN WAS ONE WE CAN UNDERSTAND AT THIS POINT OF OUR DEVELOPEMENT . IT'S CALLED MATH . THERE IS ALSO A PHYSICAL HALL OF RECORDS THAT WILL BE DISCOVERED WHEN WE ARE FIT TO DO SO . ( AS OF NOW WE ARE TOO DUMB TO HAVE SOMETHING LIKE THAT REVEALED TO US : SEE DONKEY KONG, THE LUKE , ETC )

3. THE MOST OVERLOOKED REASON FOR THE STURDINESS, SIZE AND PLACEMENT OF THE GIZA PLATEAU , IS SO THAT IT SURVIVED THE LAST SHIFTING OF THE MAGNETIC POLES 11500 BC WHICH CAUSED MASSIVE NATURAL CATACLISMS ( SEE THE GREAT FLOOD )


SO LUKE : I THINK YOU ARE TRYING TO BE IN THE CUANTUM PHYSICS CLASS BUT U JUST FINISHED LEARNING HOW TO ADD AND SUBSTRACT .  ;)


Wow... another pyramidiot.  I think this is a new record for "most number of unsupported completely out-of-the-blue statements in a single post".   ::)
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« Reply #589 on: November 27, 2007, 11:25:59 PM »
BACK IN THE DAY WHEN OUR CIVILISATION RELIZED IT'S OWN IMMINENT COLLAPSE BROUGHT ABOUT BY ABUSE OF POWER AND FUCKING WITH SHIT THEY COULDNT CONTROL , BUT MAINLY USING ENERG FOR EVIL PURPOSES , THEY REALISED THAT THERE WILL BE A POLE SHIFT AND EVERYTHING WILL BE WIPED OUT . SO WELL AHEAD OF TIME THEY DECIDED TO LEAVE ( SOME ) OR SETTLE UNDERGROUNG ( SEE SHAMBHALLA ) . TO LET US KNOW OUR TRUE HISTORY , AND SINCE THEY WERE AWARE THE HUMAN KIND WILL FALL FROM GRACE BACK TO 3RD DIMENSION , THEY LEFT PYRAMID LIKE STRUCTURES IN 3 PLACES ON EARTH AS WE KNOW IT ( AKA WE ONLY KNOW WHAT'S ON THE CRUST , THERE'S A WHOLE EARTH INSIDE , {YES MORONS}, IT'S COMPLETELY HOLLOWED ) , TO LET US KNOW ABOUT TRUE HYSTORY, AND TO FACILITATE OUR IMPENDING TRANSITION IN THE 4TH DIMENTION , FINALLY WE GET TO USE OUR BRAIN , I MEAN LITERALLY , AND NOT LASTLY THEY HAD TO STAND THE TEST OF TIME , MORE PRECISELY 13500 YEARS GIVE OR TAKE A FEW , AND ALSO THE GREATEST CATACLISM THAT OCCURRED BACK THEN AND LASTED FOR QUITE A WHILE.

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« Reply #590 on: November 27, 2007, 11:27:41 PM »
BACK IN THE DAY WHEN OUR CIVILISATION RELIZED IT'S OWN IMMINENT COLLAPSE BROUGHT ABOUT BY ABUSE OF POWER AND FUCKING WITH SHIT THEY COULDNT CONTROL , BUT MAINLY USING ENERG FOR EVIL PURPOSES , THEY REALISED THAT THERE WILL BE A POLE SHIFT AND EVERYTHING WILL BE WIPED OUT . SO WELL AHEAD OF TIME THEY DECIDED TO LEAVE ( SOME ) OR SETTLE UNDERGROUNG ( SEE SHAMBHALLA ) . TO LET US KNOW OUR TRUE HISTORY , AND SINCE THEY WERE AWARE THE HUMAN KIND WILL FALL FROM GRACE BACK TO 3RD DIMENSION , THEY LEFT PYRAMID LIKE STRUCTURES IN 3 PLACES ON EARTH AS WE KNOW IT ( AKA WE ONLY KNOW WHAT'S ON THE CRUST , THERE'S A WHOLE EARTH INSIDE , {YES MORONS}, IT'S COMPLETELY HOLLOWED ) , TO LET US KNOW ABOUT TRUE HYSTORY, AND TO FACILITATE OUR IMPENDING TRANSITION IN THE 4TH DIMENTION , FINALLY WE GET TO USE OUR BRAIN , I MEAN LITERALLY , AND NOT LASTLY THEY HAD TO STAND THE TEST OF TIME , MORE PRECISELY 13500 YEARS GIVE OR TAKE A FEW , AND ALSO THE GREATEST CATACLISM THAT OCCURRED BACK THEN AND LASTED FOR QUITE A WHILE.



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« Reply #591 on: November 27, 2007, 11:28:26 PM »
We can only imagine if visitors from another planet arrived on earth and were greeted by gh15, DimWad, or Semitaste! The visitors would return without further ado, knowing full well the natives were beyond hope of saving or improving! They would report back that primitive beings with muscular brains prospered in a most backward part of the galaxy!

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« Reply #592 on: November 27, 2007, 11:42:09 PM »
Good grief, Harry, is that an argument supporting extraterrestrial visits?

I accept that the known universe is immense beyond belief. Grasping the vast distances between the stars, let alone galaxies, makes it highly unlikely that any other intelligent life might be in our local area and visited us. If we accept that it took billions of years for intelligent life to evolve then it is also unlikely that any two civilizations will coexist.

One thing seems to be self-evident. Where is the hard evidence of any visit? Zero.


Vince, yes your second point would seem quite valid. In fact your first two paragraphs elude to the Fermi paradox, which you may already be familiar with. Rather than regurgitate it, it is worth reading current thinking here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fermi_paradox (for a start). Then Why should we expect that 'advanced' beings, capable of reaching us, would need to advertise their presence or care to? Remember we are admiring the universe through our human eyes. Without being overly simplistic, are ants aware of our presence towering above them...do we care about them except when they invade our space. No. We cannot even begin to imagine the basic 'genetic' make up of life-forms that evolve totally independently of earth....let alone the result thereafter of a more prolonged and more rapid 'evolution'.

You suggest "To attribute unknown motives to extraterrestrials is just another trick to 'explain' why we haven't detected them and why they never left even rubbish behind. "       I agree.


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« Reply #593 on: November 28, 2007, 12:03:31 AM »
Thanks to gh15 I read a short essay on ancient Egyptian stone masonry practices, etc. It is here: http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/ancient/egyptians/great_pyramid_01.shtml

There are unanswered questions but hardly any mystery. What researchers do is look for evidence and then form theories to explain what they find. There is never any suggestion that they suspend their research and attribute any unknowns to extraterrestrials. To do that would be to capitulate to the dreamers and not thinkers out there. Science is mainly about finding out about phenomena. The questions how, when and where are much more rewarding than asking why?

One example is the drilling and cutting of granite with the copper alloy tools available in ancient times. There is no way those tools would cut granite because granite is too hard and the tools would quickly dull. However, one researcher looked into this and came up with an idea that sand might be added to the drilling process and cut the granite. That could be. gh15 and wad would jump on this problem as proof extraterrestrials most certainly provided the tools. Their answer is no explanation whatever.

From reading this thread it is clear to me why the flotsam accept silly theories re building muscles. They lack the capacity for independent, critical thinking so grasp whatever current stories they hear. If they are uneducated their ideas and theories will reflect that. Can these hapless souls ever build huge muscles? Well, that would surely be a miracle!

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« Reply #594 on: November 28, 2007, 12:34:39 AM »
Hey, James. Harsh words from a 32 year old who can write this:
 
I am interested in finding meaning in this life. To live life in such a way that my actions have an impact on the world around me. Sex, producing fine art, talking.. seeking beauty.. a good fight.

 
You have talent as an artist. Why be crass and vulgar on discussion boards?

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« Reply #595 on: November 28, 2007, 12:36:51 AM »

"...THEY LEFT PYRAMID LIKE STRUCTURES IN 3 PLACES ON EARTH AS WE KNOW IT ( AKA WE ONLY KNOW WHAT'S ON THE CRUST , THERE'S A WHOLE EARTH INSIDE , {YES MORONS}, IT'S COMPLETELY HOLLOWED ) ..."






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« Reply #596 on: November 28, 2007, 12:49:48 AM »
that's news to me... 

i'M NOT SURPRISED. KEEP READING , RESEARCH. JUST SO U KNOW, IT'S ANCIENT NEWS  ;)

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« Reply #597 on: November 28, 2007, 01:04:23 AM »
I hate to say this, but this place is getting to me. I think I'm getting the fear.
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« Reply #598 on: November 28, 2007, 01:45:54 AM »
Thanks to gh15 I read a short essay on ancient Egyptian stone masonry practices, etc. It is here: http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/ancient/egyptians/great_pyramid_01.shtml

There are unanswered questions but hardly any mystery. What researchers do is look for evidence and then form theories to explain what they find. There is never any suggestion that they suspend their research and attribute any unknowns to extraterrestrials. To do that would be to capitulate to the dreamers and not thinkers out there. Science is mainly about finding out about phenomena. The questions how, when and where are much more rewarding than asking why?

One example is the drilling and cutting of granite with the copper alloy tools available in ancient times. There is no way those tools would cut granite because granite is too hard and the tools would quickly dull. However, one researcher looked into this and came up with an idea that sand might be added to the drilling process and cut the granite. That could be. gh15 and wad would jump on this problem as proof extraterrestrials most certainly provided the tools. Their answer is no explanation whatever.

From reading this thread it is clear to me why the flotsam accept silly theories re building muscles. They lack the capacity for independent, critical thinking so grasp whatever current stories they hear. If they are uneducated their ideas and theories will reflect that. Can these hapless souls ever build huge muscles? Well, that would surely be a miracle!


i just took this post of yuo but consider it respond to the one you wrote before this,,

you are right,,i wont be able to convince you with out solid evidence shown to public by goverment,,somthing you can touch and feel,,and you wont be able to convince me about the earth science  explanation because they lack substancially when it comes to 1000s  of years ago especially when it realted to structure failures and heights in relashion to era talked about,,so you are right it is mure point to argue ,,its like 2 donkys argue about something none can prove behind resonable doubt ,,only thing you can do aboiut this subject is discuss it because you cant bring us 200 bck in time or build something that we will see 200 years from now becaue we will be long dead or whatever happens after you die wether heaven or other things we wont be able to see it together in 2000 years,,,me on the other hand cant bring you no solid proofs as in touching and feeling type to back up what i say ,,i cant do it until the usa goverment does it for all human kind to see,,so in this aspect you are right its like fighting about what happens after you die ...its mute because you are not willing to stop your heart and revive yourself after 10 min to bring an answer,,its all mute to argue because in this cases as of today there is no solid 100% proof that released to the public that will satusfy the scientific community WHICH I AM A FUCKIN PART OF IT,,i consider myself highly scientific and science bound and that is why it took me so long to even accept wehat i was told but i did eventually

just let me tell you one little thing to keep you thinking at night...many believe in god.....many dont believe in god...WHILE YOUNG AND HEALTHY!,,,then the older you get the sicker you get the more wize you get ...you start believing in god even if you didnt initially you know why?

because you die alone
every body dies alone no matter how much you love your wife and she love you and you love your dad and your mom and your dog and you would do anything for them,,,YOU DIE ALONE,,,only you and god one on one,, you quietly walk away off this planet into gods kingdom of heaven and that i also cant prove you by touch and feel but i can assure you ..everyone dies a believer because

you die alone
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« Reply #599 on: November 28, 2007, 01:50:06 AM »
i just took this post of yuo but consider it respond to the one you wrote before this,,

you are right,,i wont be able to convince you with out solid evidence shown to public by goverment,,somthing you can touch and feel,,and you wont be able to convince me about the earth science  explanation because they lack substancially when it comes to 1000s  of years ago especially when it realted to structure failures and heights in relashion to era talked about,,so you are right it is mure point to argue ,,its like 2 donkys argue about something none can prove behind resonable doubt ,,only thing you can do aboiut this subject is discuss it because you cant bring us 200 bck in time or build something that we will see 200 years from now becaue we will be long dead or whatever happens after you die wether heaven or other things we wont be able to see it together in 2000 years,,,me on the other hand cant bring you no solid proofs as in touching and feeling type to back up what i say ,,i cant do it until the usa goverment does it for all human kind to see,,so in this aspect you are right its like fighting about what happens after you die ...its mute because you are not willing to stop your heart and revive yourself after 10 min to bring an answer,,its all mute to argue because in this cases as of today there is no solid 100% proof that released to the public that will satusfy the scientific community WHICH I AM A FUCKIN PART OF IT,,i consider myself highly scientific and science bound and that is why it took me so long to even accept wehat i was told but i did eventually

just let me tell you one little thing to keep you thinking at night...many believe in god.....many dont believe in god...WHILE YOUNG AND HEALTHY!,,,then the older you get the sicker you get the more wize you get ...you start believing in god even if you didnt initially you know why?

because you die alone
every body dies alone no matter how much you love your wife and she love you and you love your dad and your mom and your dog and you would do anything for them,,,YOU DIE ALONE,,,only you and god one on one,, you quietly walk away off this planet into gods kingdom of heaven and that i also cant prove you by touch and feel but i can assure you ..everyone dies a believer because

you die alone
That was Deep, I for one agree with most of what you have to say.The Earth is just a Petrie dish of Human society being monitered by intellegences greater than our own.
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