Author Topic: Ronnie on prosourse: "I may go for the Olympia again" (Read 6885 times)

Meso_z · « **on:** October 30, 2007, 01:25:51 PM »

As Ronnie states on prosource...

"Dude I'm gone be big all my life as big as possible. As far as doing another show, yes I'll be competing in like the Arnold and maybe some European shows. If I win the Arnold I may go for the Olympia again, maybe. That song you're talking about is by Scarface, its called Fame."

"Hope you enjoyed the Olympia, besides my first one it will go down as one of my most memorable Olympias. I mean those standing ovations are Priceless. Thats from the heart and I don't see none of the other guys getting them. Actually in my 17 years of bodybuilding, this is the only time I've seen something like this. I didn't win but seemed like better than a win with those ovations. I never got them after a win, thats for sure. With all that love shown, it really makes me want to come back and do it again but next time heavier....."

I hope Ronnie knows what hes doing.....

Al-Gebra · « **Reply #1 on:** October 30, 2007, 01:30:47 PM »

maybe ronnie is a dumbass, after all . . . doesn't he know the reason he got the ovations was b/c people thought he was retiring?

Matt C · « **Reply #2 on:** October 30, 2007, 01:37:10 PM »

Ronnie is not supposed to ever be under 285, and that is being conservative. He would be find at 287-292. Like Markus Ruhl, he does NOT look better smaller. His physique is so used to being so big, that he can't "streamline" as one would think would be ideal in theory. Although in 2005 he did manage to do it...

RONNIE COLEMAN "THE UNBELIEVABLE" DVD REVIEW:

http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/ronniecolemanunbelievabledvd.html

http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/ronniecolemanunbelievabledvd2.html

PICTURES:

http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/ronniecolemantheunbelievabledvd

Let's be honest, seven years later and Cutler is at least three years away from looking like this:

And even that is "in theory". If Cutler could continually to improve, he could potentially look like that in three years, but honestly, he has maxed out!

If Coleman shows up next year the way he looked in 2006, I think he could make top three. At this point, and being 44 by then, it's tough to say how he will look. Other pros like Gary Strydom have managed to come back fresh looking at an advanced age, but that is after giving his body a break for many years. Some genetic freaks like Albert Beckles and Vince Taylor have also managed to look good at a more advanced age, but it's hard to determine exactly how Ronnie will respond after so many years of bodybuilding at his level.

Lastly, as for Coleman's standing ovation, that was only really present because it was a celebratory one to honour Ronnie for his years in bodybuilding. It's not as if he will get one every year that he competes from now on. He IS appreciated by the fans and I think the ovation helped him to fully understand that in a very profound away, but there is also something to knowing when to throw in the towel.

He can easily win other pro shows still up to and including the Ironman and possibly even the Arnold Classic depending on who is competing, but again, it's important to know when to throw in the towel. I say this as one of Ronnie's biggest fans.

RONNIE COLEMAN ARTICLES:

http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/ronniecolemanarticles.html

Croatch · « **Reply #3 on:** October 30, 2007, 01:39:09 PM »

Quote from: Meso_z on October 30, 2007, 01:25:51 PM

As Ronnie states on prosource...

"Dude I'm gone be big all my life as big as possible. As far as doing another show, yes I'll be competing in like the Arnold and maybe some European shows. If I win the Arnold I may go for the Olympia again, maybe. That song you're talking about is by Scarface, its called Fame."

"Hope you enjoyed the Olympia, besides my first one it will go down as one of my most memorable Olympias. I mean those standing ovations are Priceless. Thats from the heart and I don't see none of the other guys getting them. Actually in my 17 years of bodybuilding, this is the only time I've seen something like this. I didn't win but seemed like better than a win with those ovations. I never got them after a win, thats for sure. With all that love shown, it really makes me want to come back and do it again but next time heavier....."

I hope Ronnie knows what hes doing.....

Yes, he's right on track to die by 50, just as planned.

Matt C · « **Reply #4 on:** October 30, 2007, 01:42:51 PM »

Quote from: Croatch on October 30, 2007, 01:39:09 PM

Yes, he's right on track to die by 50, just as planned.

I know people who have abused drugs for many years and lived to an age older than that. It comes down to genetics. I'm not saying Ronnie will or will not live past 50, but we can never know for sure. Current pros = guinea pigs. We will see the full implications of juicing at the level basically starting now and into the future. In 2003, my friends and I speculated that in 5-15 years (2008-2018) we would be able to see what the long term health effects of this type of substance abuse would be. My grandfather is pushing 70 and has been an alcoholic for over 50 years, essentially starting in his late teenage years. I believe he will be 70 in May but I could be wrong. Some people just have very resilient DNA.

gordiano · « **Reply #5 on:** October 30, 2007, 01:56:27 PM »

Oh brother....

I knew Ronnie was bullshitting about retiring.

The writing is on the wall, Ronnie. You've made your mark in this industry. Move on......enjoy life.

qiniz · « **Reply #6 on:** October 30, 2007, 01:57:04 PM »

thats not dennis wolf

NarcissisticDeity · « **Reply #7 on:** October 30, 2007, 01:59:40 PM »

Quote from: Matt C on October 30, 2007, 01:37:10 PM

Ronnie is not supposed to ever be under 285, and that is being conservative. He would be find at 287-292. Like Markus Ruhl, he does NOT look better smaller. His physique is so used to being so big, that he can't "streamline" as one would think would be ideal in theory. Although in 2005 he did manage to do it...

RONNIE COLEMAN "THE UNBELIEVABLE" DVD REVIEW:

http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/ronniecolemanunbelievabledvd.html

http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/ronniecolemanunbelievabledvd2.html

PICTURES:

http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/ronniecolemantheunbelievabledvd

Let's be honest, seven years later and Cutler is at least three years away from looking like this:

And even that is "in theory". If Cutler could continually to improve, he could potentially look like that in three years, but honestly, he has maxed out!

If Coleman shows up next year the way he looked in 2006, I think he could make top three. At this point, and being 44 by then, it's tough to say how he will look. Other pros like Gary Strydom have managed to come back fresh looking at an advanced age, but that is after giving his body a break for many years. Some genetic freaks like Albert Beckles and Vince Taylor have also managed to look good at a more advanced age, but it's hard to determine exactly how Ronnie will respond after so many years of bodybuilding at his level.

Lastly, as for Coleman's standing ovation, that was only really present because it was a celebratory one to honour Ronnie for his years in bodybuilding. It's not as if he will get one every year that he competes from now on. He IS appreciated by the fans and I think the ovation helped him to fully understand that in a very profound away, but there is also something to knowing when to throw in the towel.

He can easily win other pro shows still up to and including the Ironman and possibly even the Arnold Classic depending on who is competing, but again, it's important to know when to throw in the towel. I say this as one of Ronnie's biggest fans.

RONNIE COLEMAN ARTICLES:

http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/ronniecolemanarticles.html

Matt I beg to differ Ronnie looked his absolute best at 250 pounds give or take !

Stark · « **Reply #8 on:** October 30, 2007, 02:01:48 PM »

Oh man that would rock... Ronnies Comeback I would love it.

Matt C · « **Reply #9 on:** October 30, 2007, 02:02:38 PM »

Quote from: NarcissisticDeity on October 30, 2007, 01:59:40 PM

Matt I beg to differ Ronnie looked his absolute best at 250 pounds give or take !

It is a matter of opinion, although I can respect your point of view.

In my opinion Ronnie only lost about 5% of his sharpness and aesthetics but gained about 15% in sheer size! So to justify my point of view, his gains in size outweighed his loss in other areas, although I do agree he was more aesthetic at a lighter body weight, but his sheer dominance at 287 made him unbeatable! In my opinion, his form in 2003 could beat any bodybuilder ever.

NarcissisticDeity · « **Reply #10 on:** October 30, 2007, 02:06:00 PM »

Quote from: Matt C on October 30, 2007, 02:02:38 PM

It is a matter of opinion, although I can respect your point of view.

In my opinion Ronnie only lost about 5% of his sharpness and aesthetics but gained about 15% in sheer size! So to justify my point of view, his gains in size outweighed his loss in other areas, although I do agree he was more aesthetic at a lighter body weight, but his sheer dominance at 287 made him unbeatable! In my opinion, his form in 2003 could beat any bodybuilder ever.

LMFAO 5%

look at 04 V 98 thats a fuck of a lot more than 5% the size added was NOT quality pounds his balance & proportion suffered for it as well as his crispness & detail thats redundant .

Mars · « **Reply #11 on:** October 30, 2007, 02:10:01 PM »

So that paco bautista can finally say he beated ronnie.

Brutal_1 · « **Reply #12 on:** October 30, 2007, 03:41:17 PM »

Quote from: gordiano on October 30, 2007, 01:56:27 PM

Oh brother....

I knew Ronnie was bullshitting about retiring.

The writing is on the wall, Ronnie. You've made your mark in this industry. Move on......enjoy life.

I agree...I think Ronnie was the best bodybuilder ever!

But please, if anyone knows him, tell him...don't come back!

Zach Trowbridge · « **Reply #13 on:** October 30, 2007, 04:29:58 PM »

Quote from: Stark on October 30, 2007, 02:01:48 PM

Oh man that would rock... Ronnies Comeback I would love it.

For it to be a comeback, he actually has to stop competing first.

Alex23 · « **Reply #14 on:** October 30, 2007, 04:57:45 PM »

If Taylor is still competeting at 53, why not Ronnie?

Van_Bilderass · « **Reply #15 on:** October 30, 2007, 06:24:31 PM »

I doubt it's Ronnie writing at that site. Probably his sister or something.

Karpaasi · « **Reply #16 on:** October 30, 2007, 06:52:58 PM »

Quote from: Alex23 is Back on October 30, 2007, 04:57:45 PM

If Taylor is still competeting at 53, why not Ronnie?

Well Vince is a great example how to mess a good carrier. He went and competed at masters many years and lost precious time and money and achieved nothing. He himself said that it was his biggest mistake and now he's back on juice at the age of 51 cause he can't pay the bills..

I love Ronnie and as a true fan I never want to see him compete. It was sad to see him compete at this years O. Sad to see that he was a shadow of his former self..

MisterMagoo · « **Reply #17 on:** October 30, 2007, 09:15:27 PM »

Quote from: Ronnie Coleman

"Hope you enjoyed the Olympia, besides my first one it will go down as one of my most memorable Olympias. I mean those standing ovations are Priceless. Thats from the heart and I don't see none of the other guys getting them.

that's because they thought you were retiring, dumbass. dorian got one in 1997, too. and, actually, gunter got one in 2002 despite getting 5th. remember his "thank you so much, your support means more to me than the placing" line?

Meso_z · « **Reply #18 on:** October 31, 2007, 02:44:38 AM »

I think Ronnie MUST wait 1 whole year before he enters Olympia gain ("clean", and working with "light" weights and lots of cardio.....) .....he must give his body a rest. My opinion

Besides its fuckin Ronnie Coleman who knows what he'll bring.

webcake · « **Reply #19 on:** October 31, 2007, 02:48:45 AM »

It'll be good that Ronnie will probably do the Arnold, but i don't really think he should do the O anymore. There was a pretty big fuss made over this being Ronnie's final one, it would seem kind of weird if he just decided to come back. Still, if he feels he can come back and place relatively well, then all the power to him. You never know what Ronnie is capable of.

suckmymuscle · « **Reply #20 on:** October 31, 2007, 03:14:36 AM »

Quote from: Meso_z on October 30, 2007, 01:25:51 PM

As Ronnie states on prosource...

"Dude I'm gone be big all my life as big as possible. As far as doing another show, yes I'll be competing in like the Arnold and maybe some European shows. If I win the Arnold I may go for the Olympia again, maybe. That song you're talking about is by Scarface, its called Fame."

"Hope you enjoyed the Olympia, besides my first one it will go down as one of my most memorable Olympias. I mean those standing ovations are Priceless. Thats from the heart and I don't see none of the other guys getting them. Actually in my 17 years of bodybuilding, this is the only time I've seen something like this. I didn't win but seemed like better than a win with those ovations. I never got them after a win, thats for sure. With all that love shown, it really makes me want to come back and do it again but next time heavier....."

I hope Ronnie knows what hes doing.....

Ronnie doesen't learn that you can't win the Olympia in your mid forties, I guess. But why shouldn't he compete at the Olympia again? I mean, his last little bit of aura evaporated at this year's Olympia when he placed fourth, so it's not like he has an image to preserve... $:-\$

SUCKMYMUSCLE

rocket · « **Reply #21 on:** October 31, 2007, 03:32:19 AM »

Quote from: suckmymuscle on October 31, 2007, 03:14:36 AM

Ronnie doesen't learn that you can't win the Olympia in your mid forties, I guess. But why shouldn't he compete at the Olympia again? I mean, his last little bit of aura evaporated at this year's Olympia when he placed fourth, so it's not like he has an image to preserve... $:-\$

SUCKMYMUSCLE

I agree, but on the positive side it does prove that he's genuinely into bodybuilding and really loves it (takes a humble man to come back and place around guys who couldn't touch you in your prime).

suckmymuscle · « **Reply #22 on:** October 31, 2007, 04:27:26 AM »

Quote from: rocket on October 31, 2007, 03:32:19 AM

I agree, but on the positive side it does prove that he's genuinely into bodybuilding and really loves it (takes a humble man to come back and place around guys who couldn't touch you in your prime).

Yeah, but you can love bodybuilding in other ways that won't destroy your legacy. Competing is not the only way to love bodybuilding. You can become a judge - like Dorian did -, or become a spokesperson for the sport - like Arnold and Haney, etc. Frankly, competing after your prime and risking ruining your legacy is a stupid way to love bodybuilding for a Mr.Olympia.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

gymguy · « **Reply #23 on:** October 31, 2007, 05:23:27 AM »

It's not true. He has not intentions of coming out of retirement.

Wanocki · « **Reply #24 on:** October 31, 2007, 05:33:06 AM »

Quote from: Matt C on October 30, 2007, 01:42:51 PM

I know people who have abused drugs for many years and lived to an age older than that. It comes down to genetics. I'm not saying Ronnie will or will not live past 50, but we can never know for sure. Current pros = guinea pigs. We will see the full implications of juicing at the level basically starting now and into the future. In 2003, my friends and I speculated that in 5-15 years (2008-2018) we would be able to see what the long term health effects of this type of substance abuse would be. My grandfather is pushing 70 and has been an alcoholic for over 50 years, essentially starting in his late teenage years. I believe he will be 70 in May but I could be wrong. Some people just have very resilient DNA.

That is true. I've known people who seemingly did everything right and they still died of a heart attack or cancer before they turned 50.