Author Topic: Question for gh15 (Read 3929 times)

bodybuildermdpitt · « **on:** October 31, 2007, 08:02:19 PM »

I am not trying to be oprresive, but why are you indirectly encouraging people to use insulin? I have been reading your posts on and off whenever I get time and you seem equate large size with insulin. This is very very dangerous advice to be giving to people. Have you ever heard of a hypoglycemic coma?? More importantly, do you even know the difference between lispro and regular insulin, over even when these drugs peak?? You do realize that taking 6 units of regular insulin is completely different than taking 6 units of lispro, as a drug "guru" you should know this right

Also, you do realize that dosing lispro like it is regular insulin with normal blood sugars, you better have some d5 and IV access , or you are headed for a nice headache filled coma. The only reason your posts are irking me is that my wife, she is an ER nurse, stated that she has seen 3 teenage football players come in within the last month non - responsive after taking lispro, thinking they will bulk up. Seriously, if you want get bigger, look at the diet of individuals it has worked for. Look at people with more impressive physiques on the board and ask them. Do not listen to random "gurus" who have no idea what they are talking about.

cheers,

bodybuildermdpitt

Also, I am more than willing to discuss this further, but I have to fly to a conference in about 4 hours, and will not be able to respond for a couple of days.

gh15 · « **Reply #1 on:** October 31, 2007, 08:41:39 PM »

no steroid i reapeat NO AAS will give you the pump insulin gives you if taken right pre training,,
now as i ALWAYS SAY HERE ON THE GOSSIP AND OPINION BOARD AND THIS IS AN OPINION WHICH OFCOURSE IS THE ONLY THING THAT MATTERS BECAUSE NO ONE KNOWS BETTER THAN ME HORMONES NO ONE!...I ALWAYS SAY YOU NEED TO BE EXPERIENCE BODYBUILDER WETHER COMPETETIVE OR NOT IT DONT FUCIIN MATTER BECAUSE INORDER RO STEP ON STAGE IN THE HIGHER LEVELS INSULIN IS ALSO PART OF THE DEAL,,BUT I ALWAYS SAY HOW IMPROTANT IT IS TO KNOW YOUR HORMONES AND YORU BODY,,I NEVER SAY YOU KID 18 YEAR OLD GO TO GYM TRAININ 1 MONTH AND USE IT,,

GH15 IS THRE MOST EXPERIENCE BODYBUILDER YOU WILL EVER FIND ON ANY INTERNET BOARD,,NOT ONLY AM I MORE EXPERIENCED THAN MR PALUMBO AND MILOS SACREV,,I ALSO PUT IN MY BODY EVERY SINGLE OF MY RECOMENDATION AND HOLD MANY TITLES IN 2 DECADES OF BODYBUILDING,,

GH15 TELLS WHAT OTHERS WISPER
GH15 TELLS WHAT OTHER WANT TO TELL BUT CANT
GH15 TELLS THE BULLSHIT FROM THE GOOD SHIT
AND GH15 ALWAYS WRITE ON THE GOSSIP AND OPINION BOARD FOR A REASON AND IT IS BECAUSE IT WILL ALWAYS COUNT AS OPINION AND GOSSIP!

GH15 WAS INVITED ACTUALLY BEGGED TO BE A PARTICIPANT ON GETBIG BY A MAJOR INDUSTRY PLAYER AND ITS NOT RON ,,I DIDNT WANT TO AT THE BEGGINING BUT THEN AFTER REAIND GTHIS BOARD COUPLE TIMES I AGREED AND IM QUITE HAPPY I DID

WHAT I SAY HERE IS WRITTEN IN STONE WHEN IT COMES TO BODYBUILDING,,YOU CAN DOUBT IT ,,YOU CAN THINK IT,,YOU CAN RETHINK IT,,YOU CAN DISAGREE WITH IT AND YOU CAN POOP ON IT BUT! AT THE END EVERY BODYBUILDER GET TO A POINT THAT HE IS DOING IT NO MATTER WEHTER SOONER OR LATER

AGAIN I DO NOT RECOMEND MY ADVICE TO ANY YOUNG AND BEGGINING BODYBUILDERS I ALWAYS SAY TRAIN NATURALLY COUPLE GOOD YEARS ,,DO YOUR FOUNDATION ,,BUT IF YOU WANT TO BE AS SUCESSFUL AS YOUR FATHER THAT IS A COMPANY OWNER OR RESTAURANT OWNER OR GOVERMENT WORKER,,MAKE SURE YOU KNOW HOW TO GET THERE IN YOUR RESPECTIVE CAREER AS A BODYBUILDER,,

IM TRYING ON THIS BOARD TO MAKE YOUNGER BODYBUILDER SPEND LESS TIME IN TRYING TO GET SOMEWHERE AND HAVING MORE TIME IN ACTUALLY GETTING THERE

Mad Nickels · « **Reply #2 on:** October 31, 2007, 08:44:48 PM »

GH15 has been rapidly falling apart lately.

Shockwave · « **Reply #3 on:** October 31, 2007, 08:53:04 PM »

GH15 is the fucking man.
Im pretty sure I have most of his posts on AAS saved, for if I do decide to go balls out.

youandme · « **Reply #4 on:** October 31, 2007, 08:55:57 PM »

gh15 what about meth?

for cutting I heard it'spretty good

Arnold jr · « **Reply #5 on:** October 31, 2007, 09:00:52 PM »

Quote from: gh15 on October 31, 2007, 08:41:39 PM

BECAUSE NO ONE KNOWS BETTER THAN ME HORMONES NO ONE!...

Except Arnold jr...but I mean come on, this is obviously a given.

gh15 · « **Reply #6 on:** October 31, 2007, 09:08:07 PM »

Quote from: youandme on October 31, 2007, 08:55:57 PM

gh15 what about meth?

for cutting I heard it'spretty good

i hate and never use recrational drugs narcotics and the such,, io actually avoid bodybuilders who do it and there are bunch,,90s to this day using meth is still common sad to say for cutting ,,again more in your us of a than in europe,,they bring down bodybuilding,,i hate them and i wish they all get in prison not only the murderer,,in usa in small town usa that is many pro bodybuilder wanna be use meth to cut,,it is bad bad bad iit ruins bodybuilder not build him yet you americans for some reason do it ,,that is why your goverment is up your ass not because of little human grade ampols but because of under ground poweders from china that include recrational drugs ,,pain killer underdosed low level unstgerile grade poweders thats why you are "victims",,,its not your 2 vials of watson testosterone that is your problem ..it is the other 90%

On_Swole · « **Reply #7 on:** October 31, 2007, 09:08:32 PM »

Quote from: gh15 on October 31, 2007, 08:41:39 PM

BECAUSE INORDER RO STEP ON STAGE IN THE HIGHER LEVELS INSULIN IS ALSO PART OF THE DEAL

Well, I personally know a guy who's won a couple of Arnold Classic titles, the GNC, an Ironman (as well as other various pro shows), and insulin is not part of his deal.

gh15 · « **Reply #8 on:** October 31, 2007, 09:10:40 PM »

Quote from: On_Swole on October 31, 2007, 09:08:32 PM

Well, I personally know a guy who's won a couple of Arnold Classic titles, the GNC, an Ironman (as well as other various pro shows), and insulin is not part of his deal.

well yes 20 units of slin 3 times a day is not,,but the 5-10 units pre training...come on cant give up on that one its like throwing bone to dog

Dragon · « **Reply #9 on:** October 31, 2007, 09:52:45 PM »

Quote from: gh15 on October 31, 2007, 08:41:39 PM

no steroid i reapeat NO AAS will give you the pump insulin gives you if taken right pre training,,
now as i ALWAYS SAY HERE ON THE GOSSIP AND OPINION BOARD AND THIS IS AN OPINION WHICH OFCOURSE IS THE ONLY THING THAT MATTERS BECAUSE NO ONE KNOWS BETTER THAN ME HORMONES NO ONE!...I ALWAYS SAY YOU NEED TO BE EXPERIENCE BODYBUILDER WETHER COMPETETIVE OR NOT IT DONT FUCIIN MATTER BECAUSE INORDER RO STEP ON STAGE IN THE HIGHER LEVELS INSULIN IS ALSO PART OF THE DEAL,,BUT I ALWAYS SAY HOW IMPROTANT IT IS TO KNOW YOUR HORMONES AND YORU BODY,,I NEVER SAY YOU KID 18 YEAR OLD GO TO GYM TRAININ 1 MONTH AND USE IT,,

GH15 IS THRE MOST EXPERIENCE BODYBUILDER YOU WILL EVER FIND ON ANY INTERNET BOARD,,NOT ONLY AM I MORE EXPERIENCED THAN MR PALUMBO AND MILOS SACREV,,I ALSO PUT IN MY BODY EVERY SINGLE OF MY RECOMENDATION AND HOLD MANY TITLES IN 2 DECADES OF BODYBUILDING,,

GH15 TELLS WHAT OTHERS WISPER
GH15 TELLS WHAT OTHER WANT TO TELL BUT CANT
GH15 TELLS THE BULLSHIT FROM THE GOOD SHIT
AND GH15 ALWAYS WRITE ON THE GOSSIP AND OPINION BOARD FOR A REASON AND IT IS BECAUSE IT WILL ALWAYS COUNT AS OPINION AND GOSSIP!

GH15 WAS INVITED ACTUALLY BEGGED TO BE A PARTICIPANT ON GETBIG BY A MAJOR INDUSTRY PLAYER AND ITS NOT RON ,,I DIDNT WANT TO AT THE BEGGINING BUT THEN AFTER REAIND GTHIS BOARD COUPLE TIMES I AGREED AND IM QUITE HAPPY I DID

WHAT I SAY HERE IS WRITTEN IN STONE WHEN IT COMES TO BODYBUILDING,,YOU CAN DOUBT IT ,,YOU CAN THINK IT,,YOU CAN RETHINK IT,,YOU CAN DISAGREE WITH IT AND YOU CAN POOP ON IT BUT! AT THE END EVERY BODYBUILDER GET TO A POINT THAT HE IS DOING IT NO MATTER WEHTER SOONER OR LATER

AGAIN I DO NOT RECOMEND MY ADVICE TO ANY YOUNG AND BEGGINING BODYBUILDERS I ALWAYS SAY TRAIN NATURALLY COUPLE GOOD YEARS ,,DO YOUR FOUNDATION ,,BUT IF YOU WANT TO BE AS SUCESSFUL AS YOUR FATHER THAT IS A COMPANY OWNER OR RESTAURANT OWNER OR GOVERMENT WORKER,,MAKE SURE YOU KNOW HOW TO GET THERE IN YOUR RESPECTIVE CAREER AS A BODYBUILDER,,

IM TRYING ON THIS BOARD TO MAKE YOUNGER BODYBUILDER SPEND LESS TIME IN TRYING TO GET SOMEWHERE AND HAVING MORE TIME IN ACTUALLY GETTING THERE

massive collateral pawned-by-doctor meltdown

Al-Gebra · « **Reply #10 on:** October 31, 2007, 09:59:00 PM »

Quote from: On_Swole on October 31, 2007, 09:08:32 PM

Well, I personally know a guy who's won a couple of Arnold Classic titles, the GNC, an Ironman (as well as other various pro shows), and insulin is not part of his deal.

i-know-dexter meltdown

Dragon · « **Reply #11 on:** October 31, 2007, 09:59:52 PM »

gh15 says every natural bber out there is a juicer.
'chris faildo=juicer , jrod=juicer, layne norton=juicer etc etc.
hell, he even called me a juicer after seeing my pics.
from what i see, this guy's a drug-dealer trying to portray a 'impossible to bodybuild without drugs' concept into all the
stupid young naive guys heads on this board to protect and increase his drug sales.

Al-Gebra · « **Reply #12 on:** October 31, 2007, 10:10:09 PM »

Quote from: Dragon on October 31, 2007, 09:59:52 PM

gh15 says every natural bber out there is a juicer.
'chris faildo=juicer , jrod=juicer, layne norton=juicer etc etc.
hell, he even called me a juicer after seeing my pics.
from what i see, this guy's a drug-dealer trying to portray a 'impossible to bodybuild without drugs' concept into all the
stupid young naive guys heads on this board to protect and increase his drug sales.

juicer meltdown.

Al-Gebra · « **Reply #13 on:** October 31, 2007, 10:14:31 PM »

Quote from: gh15 on October 31, 2007, 08:41:39 PM

no steroid i reapeat NO AAS will give you the pump insulin gives you if taken right pre training,,
now as i ALWAYS SAY HERE ON THE GOSSIP AND OPINION BOARD AND THIS IS AN OPINION WHICH OFCOURSE IS THE ONLY THING THAT MATTERS BECAUSE NO ONE KNOWS BETTER THAN ME HORMONES NO ONE!...I ALWAYS SAY YOU NEED TO BE EXPERIENCE BODYBUILDER WETHER COMPETETIVE OR NOT IT DONT FUCIIN MATTER BECAUSE INORDER RO STEP ON STAGE IN THE HIGHER LEVELS INSULIN IS ALSO PART OF THE DEAL,,BUT I ALWAYS SAY HOW IMPROTANT IT IS TO KNOW YOUR HORMONES AND YORU BODY,,I NEVER SAY YOU KID 18 YEAR OLD GO TO GYM TRAININ 1 MONTH AND USE IT,,

GH15 IS THRE MOST EXPERIENCE BODYBUILDER YOU WILL EVER FIND ON ANY INTERNET BOARD,,NOT ONLY AM I MORE EXPERIENCED THAN MR PALUMBO AND MILOS SACREV,,I ALSO PUT IN MY BODY EVERY SINGLE OF MY RECOMENDATION AND HOLD MANY TITLES IN 2 DECADES OF BODYBUILDING,,

GH15 TELLS WHAT OTHERS WISPER
GH15 TELLS WHAT OTHER WANT TO TELL BUT CANT
GH15 TELLS THE BULLSHIT FROM THE GOOD SHIT
AND GH15 ALWAYS WRITE ON THE GOSSIP AND OPINION BOARD FOR A REASON AND IT IS BECAUSE IT WILL ALWAYS COUNT AS OPINION AND GOSSIP!

GH15 WAS INVITED ACTUALLY BEGGED TO BE A PARTICIPANT ON GETBIG BY A MAJOR INDUSTRY PLAYER AND ITS NOT RON ,,I DIDNT WANT TO AT THE BEGGINING BUT THEN AFTER REAIND GTHIS BOARD COUPLE TIMES I AGREED AND IM QUITE HAPPY I DID

WHAT I SAY HERE IS WRITTEN IN STONE WHEN IT COMES TO BODYBUILDING,,YOU CAN DOUBT IT ,,YOU CAN THINK IT,,YOU CAN RETHINK IT,,YOU CAN DISAGREE WITH IT AND YOU CAN POOP ON IT BUT! AT THE END EVERY BODYBUILDER GET TO A POINT THAT HE IS DOING IT NO MATTER WEHTER SOONER OR LATER

AGAIN I DO NOT RECOMEND MY ADVICE TO ANY YOUNG AND BEGGINING BODYBUILDERS I ALWAYS SAY TRAIN NATURALLY COUPLE GOOD YEARS ,,DO YOUR FOUNDATION ,,BUT IF YOU WANT TO BE AS SUCESSFUL AS YOUR FATHER THAT IS A COMPANY OWNER OR RESTAURANT OWNER OR GOVERMENT WORKER,,MAKE SURE YOU KNOW HOW TO GET THERE IN YOUR RESPECTIVE CAREER AS A BODYBUILDER,,

IM TRYING ON THIS BOARD TO MAKE YOUNGER BODYBUILDER SPEND LESS TIME IN TRYING TO GET SOMEWHERE AND HAVING MORE TIME IN ACTUALLY GETTING THERE

love the all caps poetry, but do you plan on addressing any of the op's substantive points?

Al-Gebra · « **Reply #14 on:** October 31, 2007, 10:15:50 PM »

in other words, what do you to keep from winding up w as a vegetable b/c of improper use of insulin?

Meso_z · « **Reply #15 on:** November 01, 2007, 01:51:40 AM »

Quote from: Dragon on October 31, 2007, 09:59:52 PM

gh15 says every natural bber out there is a juicer.
'chris faildo=juicer , jrod=juicer, layne norton=juicer etc etc.
hell, he even called me a juicer after seeing my pics.
from what i see, this guy's a drug-dealer trying to portray a 'impossible to bodybuild without drugs' concept into all the
stupid young naive guys heads on this board to protect and increase his drug sales.

pellius · « **Reply #16 on:** November 01, 2007, 02:31:58 AM »

GH15, as the eternal fount of all things bodybuilding and one so generous as to freely share such knowledge and wisdom acquired through both real world experience and no small amount of genius, can you please educate us precisely as to the correct usage of insulin? I once experimented with humalog taking 10 units post workout only along with the requisite carb/whey shake. It did nothing for me. Though a natural ecto I got fatter but that could easily have been due to the dramatic increase in calories. I figured I would have gotten fatter whether or not I took insulin.

Specific step by step info. The life you save could be mine (and suckymuscle).

Van_Bilderass · « **Reply #17 on:** November 01, 2007, 02:36:08 AM »

Quote from: bodybuildermdpitt on October 31, 2007, 08:02:19 PM

I am not trying to be oprresive, but why are you indirectly encouraging people to use insulin? I have been reading your posts on and off whenever I get time and you seem equate large size with insulin. This is very very dangerous advice to be giving to people. Have you ever heard of a hypoglycemic coma?? More importantly, do you even know the difference between lispro and regular insulin, over even when these drugs peak?? You do realize that taking 6 units of regular insulin is completely different than taking 6 units of lispro, as a drug "guru" you should know this right Also, you do realize that dosing lispro like it is regular insulin with normal blood sugars, you better have some d5 and IV access , or you are headed for a nice headache filled coma. The only reason your posts are irking me is that my wife, she is an ER nurse, stated that she has seen 3 teenage football players come in within the last month non - responsive after taking lispro, thinking they will bulk up. Seriously, if you want get bigger, look at the diet of individuals it has worked for. Look at people with more impressive physiques on the board and ask them. Do not listen to random "gurus" who have no idea what they are talking about.

cheers,

bodybuildermdpitt

Also, I am more than willing to discuss this further, but I have to fly to a conference in about 4 hours, and will not be able to respond for a couple of days.

Who the hell recommended Lispro? Humalog and Humulin R is what he has always talked about. If someone injects insulin without knowing when it peaks or without knowing anything about it they deserve what they get.

DK II · « **Reply #18 on:** November 01, 2007, 02:54:24 AM »

Quote from: Van_Bilderass on November 01, 2007, 02:36:08 AM

Who the hell recommended Lispro? Humalog and Humulin R is what he has always talked about. If someone injects insulin without knowing when it peaks or without knowing anything about it they deserve what they get.

Hard words, but true.

If you inject anything without triple checking and rely on information from an online BB board, you're an idiot anyways.

But then not even injecting the right stuff is plain suicidal.

Van_Bilderass · « **Reply #19 on:** November 01, 2007, 03:01:08 AM »

Quote from: On_Swole on October 31, 2007, 09:08:32 PM

Well, I personally know a guy who's won a couple of Arnold Classic titles, the GNC, an Ironman (as well as other various pro shows), and insulin is not part of his deal.

Good for him, though it comes off sounding like it's supposed to be a batch of honor - not having touched that 'oh so terrible' INSULIN!! Meanwhile abusing the shit out of all the other drugs like growth hormone.

gh15 · « **Reply #20 on:** November 01, 2007, 03:05:17 AM »

Quote from: pellius on November 01, 2007, 02:31:58 AM

GH15, as the eternal fount of all things bodybuilding and one so generous as to freely share such knowledge and wisdom acquired through both real world experience and no small amount of genius, can you please educate us precisely as to the correct usage of insulin? I once experimented with humalog taking 10 units post workout only along with the requisite carb/whey shake. It did nothing for me. Though a natural ecto I got fatter but that could easily have been due to the dramatic increase in calories. I figured I would have gotten fatter whether or not I took insulin.

Specific step by step info. The life you save could be mine (and suckymuscle).

i dont suggest protocols for insulin use because the lifter need to know his hormones in and out before hand and then wont have to ask me to tell him what and how to use it,,only thing i will say is ..you start low and see if yorue insulin resistant to begin with because in usa i wont be surprized if half of you are insulin resistant,,

again for the 100 time,,do not take insulin if you are not into serious bodybuilding because if you dont know what to do with it then why taking it?

DK II · « **Reply #21 on:** November 01, 2007, 03:06:17 AM »

Quote from: gh15 on November 01, 2007, 03:05:17 AM

i dont suggest protocols for insulin use because the lifter need to know his hormones in and out before hand and then wont have to ask me to tell him what and how to use it,,only thing i will say is ..you start low and see if yorue insulin resistant to begin with because in usa i wont be surprized if half of you are insulin resistant,,

again for the 100 time,,do not take insulin if you are not into serious bodybuilding because if you dont know what to do with it then why taking it?

bwhahaahhaahaaaaa, i love this guy's humor.

erokyrwrld · « **Reply #22 on:** November 01, 2007, 06:59:35 AM »

Quote from: Van_Bilderass on November 01, 2007, 02:36:08 AM

Who the hell recommended Lispro? Humalog and Humulin R is what he has always talked about. If someone injects insulin without knowing when it peaks or without knowing anything about it they deserve what they get.

Epic ignorance - lispro is humalog

slaveboy1980 · « **Reply #23 on:** November 01, 2007, 07:46:32 AM »

Quote from: erokyrwrld on November 01, 2007, 06:59:35 AM

Epic ignorance - lispro is humalog

epic 99% posting related to drugs.

The Squadfather · « **Reply #24 on:** November 01, 2007, 07:48:50 AM »

Quote from: Mad Nickels on October 31, 2007, 08:44:48 PM

GH15 has been rapidly falling apart lately.

not at all, the guy is just telling it the way it is, if you want to get freaky big and ripped like a pro you need drugs, where is the confusion in that?