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Re: whats wrong with me shoulder??
« Reply #25 on: November 02, 2007, 01:31:59 PM »
Now is your chance to do huuuuge amount of cardio! Congratulations.

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Re: whats wrong with me shoulder??
« Reply #26 on: November 02, 2007, 02:10:52 PM »
rotacuff?



i've taken both anatomy phyz 1 and 2 plus biomechanix in college as electives..not only aced em but wrote terp notes for all 3

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Re: whats wrong with me shoulder??
« Reply #27 on: November 02, 2007, 02:11:35 PM »
Now is your chance to do huuuuge amount of cardio! Congratulations.


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Re: whats wrong with me shoulder??
« Reply #28 on: November 02, 2007, 02:16:37 PM »
how the hell did i tear it when i'm not even training??   ???  i got a cortizone shot today...next week i'm teaching a class i cant get away from so its a temp cure...  if the pain come back when the cortizone wears off i'm going in for a MRI...getting a MRI script isn't a problem...i've spent the lasrt week in bed....kinda getting sick of watching the teli..

In your first post you didn't say you were not training.

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Re: whats wrong with me shoulder??
« Reply #29 on: November 02, 2007, 02:29:13 PM »
Hmm. Like Coach says, it could be a rotator thingy. Might want to see if it is a scapular deal. Lots of nerves can get impinged back there, and can be misdiagnosed as a shoulder dingus. Ask around your gym and find out if there  are any good sports injury specialists. A lot of doctors either don't have clue and are too busy to track it down. Do a bit of legwork. 

/a good half bottle of wine will take the edge off of most acute pain.  :)

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Re: whats wrong with me shoulder??
« Reply #30 on: November 02, 2007, 03:50:37 PM »
In your first post you didn't say you were not training.

my bad man...lol i thought everyone had seen my pix that squatfatter keeps posting..does that look like a trained human 2 u :-\

again ..my bad...
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Re: whats wrong with me shoulder??
« Reply #31 on: November 02, 2007, 03:51:36 PM »


/a good half bottle of wine will take the edge off of most acute pain.  :)


o brother trust me...i'm drinking sake as we speak! :)
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Re: whats wrong with me shoulder??
« Reply #32 on: November 02, 2007, 06:42:10 PM »
Listen to Coach. Note: "Rotator Cuff" is not a single muscle: composed of four different muscles each with unique action ;Supraspinatus, Infraspinatus, Teres Minor, and Subscapularis. Does it hurt on internal rotation? On external rotation...blah, blah blah....

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Re: whats wrong with me shoulder??
« Reply #33 on: November 03, 2007, 08:43:32 AM »
unbearable pain that starts at my posterior delt...sometimes moves to the anterior delt (not muscle though...somewhere underneath)...if i lift my arm my teres major feels 'stretched' and on occasion the vein in my upper arm (i dont remember the name 4 it) starts bulging out of my arm and feels "pulled" ..

right now it i feel pain somewhere underneath my medial delt...it feels kinda like soreness but if i squeeze my shoulder it doesn't hurt ..it somewhere underneath...

I'm seeing a specialist (orthopedic surgeon) tomorrow morn...i saw a doc las week and he told me jack shit.. >:(

and when i say unbearable pain..i mean i cant walk...talk...sleep...OR even get to my bottle of advil ..i'm completely immobilized... :(  its like i dont know what to do with myself...when it does hit..NOTHING helps...and it goes away for hours..like now but when it does hit...its horrible..i got me a half a pint of scotch and a codine pill read for when and if...not taking any chances..last nite i actually wanted to chop my arm off it hurt so bad...

Of course, this post belongs over on the "Training Q&A" forum...but, probably you've overdone the bench-bounce-bumps (in particular, wide-grip!?) and have relatively grossly over-developed/trained the front delts!

That's all the kids do in the gym nowadays...endless sets of bench-bounce-bumps, and then they follow-up with sets of DB front lateral raises, a few curls and tricep presses and then go home...and then they wonder why they have '"shoulder problems"...duhhhhh!!

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Re: whats wrong with me shoulder??
« Reply #34 on: November 04, 2007, 03:28:21 PM »


i've taken both anatomy phyz 1 and 2 plus biomechanix in college as electives..not only aced em but wrote terp notes for all 3

i can spell it any which way i want...


now plez remove yourself from my presence...
Idiot, I was asking you if you think you might have some damage in it.  Not inquiring about your spelling.  ::)
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Re: whats wrong with me shoulder??
« Reply #35 on: November 04, 2007, 03:48:23 PM »
sounds like tendinitis/bursitis caused by overtraining

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Re: whats wrong with me shoulder??
« Reply #36 on: November 04, 2007, 03:50:07 PM »
sounds like tendinitis/bursitis caused by overtraining

monster assuming that toxie trains.

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Re: whats wrong with me shoulder??
« Reply #37 on: November 04, 2007, 04:30:23 PM »
chances are he hurt it falling down drunk

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Re: whats wrong with me shoulder??
« Reply #38 on: November 04, 2007, 04:32:36 PM »
chances are he hurt it falling down drunk

Or trying to pour something out of a 1.75 liter bottle.  :-X

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Re: whats wrong with me shoulder??
« Reply #39 on: November 04, 2007, 04:49:42 PM »
or slipping in the gang shower of a local jail

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Re: whats wrong with me shoulder??
« Reply #40 on: November 05, 2007, 06:17:25 AM »
Shoulder injuries can be linked to behind the neck presses.  You could have done some damage to your rotor cuff.
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Re: whats wrong with me shoulder??
« Reply #41 on: November 05, 2007, 12:54:50 PM »
unbearable pain that starts at my posterior delt...sometimes moves to the anterior delt (not muscle though...somewhere underneath)...if i lift my arm my teres major feels 'stretched' and on occasion the vein in my upper arm (i dont remember the name 4 it) starts bulging out of my arm and feels "pulled" ..

right now it i feel pain somewhere underneath my medial delt...it feels kinda like soreness but if i squeeze my shoulder it doesn't hurt ..it somewhere underneath...

I'm seeing a specialist (orthopedic surgeon) tomorrow morn...i saw a doc las week and he told me jack shit.. >:(

and when i say unbearable pain..i mean i cant walk...talk...sleep...OR even get to my bottle of advil ..i'm completely immobilized... :(  its like i dont know what to do with myself...when it does hit..NOTHING helps...and it goes away for hours..like now but when it does hit...its horrible..i got me a half a pint of scotch and a codine pill read for when and if...not taking any chances..last nite i actually wanted to chop my arm off it hurt so bad...
I had the same thing... After all the MRI's and x-rays..It was just stiff shoulder ... It hurt like hell! I was in pain all day... It wasn't a surface pain,it was deep... I went through intense physical therapy... After yanking ,pulling,stretching....It feels alot better ..Not 100% yet,but I would say about 70%.. Good luck bro.

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Re: whats wrong with me shoulder??
« Reply #42 on: November 05, 2007, 01:55:38 PM »
Rotator or possible labral tear. If the pain is unbearable when you're not using it, that's usually an indication of a tear especially if you don't have full ROM. I deal with all the time with physical therapy clients. For right now until you get a script for an MRI...Rest, Ice and 1600mg of ibuprofin.

100% correct. Excellent post.

I had this in my right shoulder.  I would rest it, and it would eventually get better. But it would HURT / BURN for about a month or 2.  Then It would ease up for 6 months or a year.

If the pain is unbearable, or still present after a week's rest with intermittent ice, then you have a tear .  Possible labral.  HOWEVER, if you feel a real tightening of the joint, it is probably a rotator cuff tear.

Bad news and more bad news. Which do you want first.

Bad news.  Cortizone shot did shit. Stop those.
More bad news - X-ray will not tell you shit. Stop that as well.

MORE bad news.you need a special kind of MRI.  You will need to get an injection directly into your shoulder joint first of a solution that will allow for a higher resolution. THEN you get an MRI.

(I had this done.. I DO NOT reccommend it. Getting needle through your pec, and then feeling the pressure build up in your shoulder was plainly no fun.. Not painful mind you, but NO FUN.

Good news. All of these are repairable with srthoscopic sugery..... but you will be out of the gym for 3 months..

I had this done, but it was WELL worth it.
over a year later and my strength has completely returned.  It took a year though. No lie.
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