How much gains do you keep after a cycle?

[EL Mariachi]

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[Van_Bilderass]

"Cycling is for cyclists... I stay on!" - Don Ross

[The Coach]

"Cycling is for cyclists... I stay on!" - Don Ross - deceaced!

Fixed!

[McFarland]

Ask Croatch how much of his gains that he kept.  Also while you're at it, ask him to see a picture taken before he ever did juice. 

[EL Mariachi]

Ask Croatch how much of his gains that he kept.  Also while you're at it, ask him to see a picture taken before he ever did juice. 

Ha ha yeah your getting him pissed, i know how he looked before, and judging at his size on latest outburst on youtube about sarcasm i say he kept all his gains, but it could be that he is very motivated for lifting and shit, that he made new gains.

Ive just heard stories that you lose almost all your gains.

[freespirit]

About 33,33 %, if you do it right.


Sometimes it's a bit more then 33,34 %, only with the genetically gifted.

[JasonH]

Depends what you take IMO - when I tool d-bol and then came off I lost the lot. However, when I went on to deca and test I kept a fair bit and my strength stayed the same. But everyone's different.

[Bast000]

guys who juice don't come off for too long for a reason.  i've seen guys lose what seemed all the gains.

[Mars]

a lot of bodybuilding physiques only exist because of drug gains.

[Croatch]

Ha ha yeah your getting him pissed, i know how he looked before, and judging at his size on latest outburst on youtube about sarcasm i say he kept all his gains, but it could be that he is very motivated for lifting and shit, that he made new gains.

Ive just heard stories that you lose almost all your gains.

I kept none of my gains from 14 years ago.  This board makes me laugh.   I put on all my current size without the use of drugs.  55lbs lean mass, in your face.  No wonder why I'm never impressed with some assclown putting on 20lbs of bloat weight with a cycle, all jokers to me.
The funny thing is, so few can do much without drugs.  It's a sad fact in bodybuilding.  If you've put on 20lbs of muscle without drugs, I congratulate you.
I will clarify this one last time.  The Croatch Timeline, coming soon.  Evolution.

[local hero]

u kept none of your gains from gear,,, but you had stretched your body to a new level, making it easier to get somwhere near to what you were

[Deadpool]

if you cycle right away or too much...well, just ask Craig Titus 

[HERACLES]

ive seen a guy that started at 160, that looked lik nothing- went on test an deca, and went up to 190...came off nd still weighed 185 ish... to i credit, he followed a clean diet,, so coming off wasnt so dramatic...

[the choad]

Ask Croatch how much of his gains that he kept.  Also while you're at it, ask him to see a picture taken before he ever did juice. 

Croatch's Idea Of Natural is 500mg Test week...So he's in essence natural..

[Rearden Metal]

I was 144 lbs when I went on. At my highest weight I was 219 lbs, but normally stay around 195. I've been off for 6 months and I'm 191 lbs. Basically, if I were to stay off forever (it's a possibility at this point) I don't think I'd drop under 180, unless in contest condition (170ish).

I guess the key for me was dropping orals and only doing good quality, simple cycles with proper HPT.

[BabyBallsMcgee]

guys who juice don't come off for too long for a reason.  i've seen guys lose what seemed all the gains.

I've seen guys keep all the gains as well and be better off leaner and bigger too but they were no where near they natural potential 

[bmuscle90]

you lose everything.  Only going natural will keep your gains.

[Mars]

you lose everything.  Only going natural will keep your gains.

thats the best choise at the end.

[powerpack]

You loose most of it.
Proper PCT slows down losses but in the end you end up back at square one.

[Wanocki]

so some think you keep most of it, some think you lose most of it

[The Coach]

Lets put it this way......small doses, long term = lasting gains with minimum loss.

[Myostatin]

I kept none of my gains from 14 years ago.  This board makes me laugh.   I put on all my current size without the use of drugs.  55lbs lean mass, in your face.  No wonder why I'm never impressed with some assclown putting on 20lbs of bloat weight with a cycle, all jokers to me.
The funny thing is, so few can do much without drugs.  It's a sad fact in bodybuilding.  If you've put on 20lbs of muscle without drugs, I congratulate you.
I will clarify this one last time.  The Croatch Timeline, coming soon.  Evolution.

Your prior steroid use, gave your body a standard...in regards to muscle memory.  In other words, without your prior steroid use, your body would not look the way it does today.  So, KUDOS to Croatch for using steroids 14 years ago....his body's muscle memory is now set to the juiced up time period....and he claims all natural  ....u are truly an inspiration....

[JasonH]

Lets put it this way......small doses, long term = lasting gains with minimum loss.

I would agree with that.

A lot of people simply jack up the dose thinking it's going to stay in their bodies longer once they come off - couldn't be further from the truth.

[YoungBlood]

Your prior steroid use, gave your body a standard...in regards to muscle memory.  In other words, without your prior steroid use, your body would not look the way it does today.  So, KUDOS to Croatch for using steroids 14 years ago....his body's muscle memory is now set to the juiced up time period....and he claims all natural  ....u are truly an inspiration....

You'll get used to Croatch and his "Natural Brigade." He comes and goes, and every time it's him promoting himself being natural, his dumb wank video for EAS, or how he hates fake tits. Then he leaves, and returns a bit later to start all over again.

[gtbro1]

Fixed!

good point