I finally did a show (A natural show)

[ManBearPig...]

great natural physique, Jerry.

[Andre Nickatina]

EVERY SINCE U POSTED THOSE PICS OF YOURS....U KINDA MAKE IT HARD TO BE TAKEN SERIOUSLY ...U RESEMBLE A TWIG

I'm only 20 and you're only bigger in your arms. I'm 6'2.. you're 5'7 And you're a 38 year old dianabol popping, test shooting, tennis failure who enjoys women with overly hairy vaginas... That says enough about how much of a joke you are.

For god's sake you dated this (I'm sorry for her sake, no offense to her as I feel bad for people who were born looking like this) woman for crying out loud. She's like a -2 out of 10.

[HERACLES]

are you suggesting that "sevastase" isn't 242 pounds ripped like he claimed he was in this pic, Heracles?

Haha, yes..yes, is that the pic where Sevaste' wakes up from that dream and finds he needs a cleanex to wipe himself off from the excitement?

[Forka]

Forka said:
I know this may sound wierd because I am an adult but I couldnt do it by myself. If you are a person that lacks discipline or if you tried your own method and got no where time and time again, I say hire someone who has vast experience and knowledge in that field.

The Air Force put me on a "fat boy" program. They send you to a dietician who thinks they know it all. And this particular dietican was making me eat so much starch which consisted of bread and simple sugars like fruit...and they limited my protein not to mention portion size for protein was so miniscule! This didnt help me it got me more fatter and this was a diet plan given to me by someone who has some type of degree! This person didnt understand my goals or desires about wanting to compete....this person didnt know jack about nutrition!

So I went to Cameron and Tracy Bodner (Team Intense Muscle). And they told me about their experience with dieting and contests and showed me before and after pics of clients they have helped. Not only did these people actually walk the walk, they talked the talk! That was very important to me. These people wrote up a diet plan and evaluated me weekly. I had to hold myself accountable to them....if I cheated, these people could tell by looking at my body and would make adjustments to my diet plan accordingly...

**Again, I had accountability....this was important to me because the previous times I put myself on a diet, I lacked the fortitude and the discipline to do it by myself, these people were blessings to me... 

I work from 7:30 Am to 4:30-5:00 PM. I would wake up 4:30 AM in the morning and drive to the gym in order to do my 45-60 minute cardio routine. Get home a little after 6 Am to make my meals and take a shower, Leave home by 7:00 AM to drive to work.  Get to the gym by 5:30-6:00 PM to train with weights and do cardio...

As for gains from prior steriod use.... when I first started it was sometime around 1994-1995, I was actually around 190 pounds, when i did dianabol, I went up in weight to over 220 pounds in a matter of months..the strength increase was incredible. I dont think i would have gotten to this weight naturally if I didnt do steroids.

In 1997, joined the military. couldnt use any gear....weight dropped from around 220 pounds to 190 pounds... I still had muscle then. I wasnt big but you could tell that I lifted weight.

In 2002-2003, got on a cycle of sust and deca. My weight shot up to 230-240 pounds. At one point while bulking, my weight shot up to 260-270 pounds (on cycle). I looked like a freakin football player Attached is a picture of me at a little over 240 pounds but I was retaining a lot of water as well.... Military picture, I was a little over 270 pounds (bulked up)

Stopped sometime around mid 2003, when I stopped cold turkey, I couldnt bench even 315 pounds...struggled with 225 for reps, couldnt even squat 315 pounds. When I was "on" I could bench over 315 pounds for over 10 reps with ease.... Squat over 405 pounds for reps with ease, etc

That strength when "off" was gone and body weight  started to decrease. down to 220...during that time I got into some type of "depression" if thats what you want to call it so I started doing nothing but eating...and the amounts of food i ate was alot...weight shot up gradually to 260 to over 270 pounds... I looked like a freakin linebacker.   At times when I would drop to 250, I wouldnt "look" fat with clothes prbably because I sucked my gut in. But I was still what other people consider "big" as in I looked like I lifted weights and worked out.  Even when clean...I could rep 120s-140s for dumbbell bench press, do the whole stack for lat pull downs and back cable rows. I trained "heavy" naturally but couldnt do reps with barbell bench press with 315s or squat 315s...dont ask me why I couldnt do it....I cant do it while "Off" I struggle with squats and barbell bench with 315 pounds....but with dumbbells I am pretty strong...

I dont know if I kept my steriod gains...I think not...I think what saved me was the gains I made while natural and "fat as hell". because if I had kept most of my steriod gains, I believe that I would be around 220s to 230 pounds dieted down to almost no fat on my body but "natural" I went down to 192 pounds...do you see what I mean? I believe if I followed the plan to a "T", I would have been 180s-190 pounds natural if I didnt cheat on my diet and was more harder and drier...

I believe, if a pro stopped juicing....and went down to a natural weight like low 200s, he would have a hard time benching 315s or squating 315s especially if that pro is 5'9" and over. I always wonder how much kevin Levrone could bench now that he is natural or Flex Wheeler can bench or squat now that they are natural...personally I dont  believe they can do much as they done while enhanced...but maybe if they trained like natural powerlifters and had the body weight of 300 plus pounds they could do it

**Questions to ask.... are these people genetically gifted? Or chemically/genetically enhanced? I say genetically enhanced. Steriods/anabolics "augments" your genetic potential....

**Squadfather said it best...its not possible for someone 5"10" to 6 feet to be over 210-220 pounds naturally at 10% bodyfat. I only could do it while I was "on". I could never do it naturally....I just proved  that at 192 pounds at 5'10" and a half I was under 10% bodyfat (natural).  When I was "on" and low bodyfat at 230-240s, I would tell people I was natural...I was such a liar but I did what i had to because I am in the military....and you have people in the military who would stab someone in the back to propel themselves in their careers to make themselves look better or draw attention away from themselves...this is how the real military is...there is a brotherhood or family in some career fields in the military but in my experience and career field, there isnt...you have back biters and fakes who are good for nothing and lazy and will backstab you to propel their careers to make themselves look good.....I call them fakes and asskissers..there are a lot of them in the military especially in the Air Force....

** I am in the military, and someone could use what I said against me and try to put me in jail for something I did in my past...but I cant change my past. I believe its a personal choice. People who use it use it to better themselves and are still law abiding citizens (even though people may disagree) who pay taxes and do no harm to no one....

**Again, what I explained about gear is my personal theory.....

Thanks for answering my question's Jeremy. Honestly, I think you've set a tremendous example for all us. I find your story compelling because you did all of this while contending with outside obligations. Another interesting aspect was that the fact that you didn't start out with the ideal physique. For me, I can't relate to guys who put there whole life into competing. I have done the same for little stints, where I started focusing too much on bodybuilding, and not enough on other aspects of my life.The appeal for me has always been to integrate a bodybuilding lifestyle into my life. Sometimes its hard to admit that you're tired, and you just don't have the energy.  Sometimes, you have to understand that other aspects of your life will take precedence, such as a career or a family.

Anyhow, From my understanding, you decided to part with AAS because it could jeopardize your future, is that correct? 

[The Squadfather]

Forka said:
I know this may sound wierd because I am an adult but I couldnt do it by myself. If you are a person that lacks discipline or if you tried your own method and got no where time and time again, I say hire someone who has vast experience and knowledge in that field.

The Air Force put me on a "fat boy" program. They send you to a dietician who thinks they know it all. And this particular dietican was making me eat so much starch which consisted of bread and simple sugars like fruit...and they limited my protein not to mention portion size for protein was so miniscule! This didnt help me it got me more fatter and this was a diet plan given to me by someone who has some type of degree! This person didnt understand my goals or desires about wanting to compete....this person didnt know jack about nutrition!

So I went to Cameron and Tracy Bodner (Team Intense Muscle). And they told me about their experience with dieting and contests and showed me before and after pics of clients they have helped. Not only did these people actually walk the walk, they talked the talk! That was very important to me. These people wrote up a diet plan and evaluated me weekly. I had to hold myself accountable to them....if I cheated, these people could tell by looking at my body and would make adjustments to my diet plan accordingly...

**Again, I had accountability....this was important to me because the previous times I put myself on a diet, I lacked the fortitude and the discipline to do it by myself, these people were blessings to me... 

I work from 7:30 Am to 4:30-5:00 PM. I would wake up 4:30 AM in the morning and drive to the gym in order to do my 45-60 minute cardio routine. Get home a little after 6 Am to make my meals and take a shower, Leave home by 7:00 AM to drive to work.  Get to the gym by 5:30-6:00 PM to train with weights and do cardio...

As for gains from prior steriod use.... when I first started it was sometime around 1994-1995, I was actually around 190 pounds, when i did dianabol, I went up in weight to over 220 pounds in a matter of months..the strength increase was incredible. I dont think i would have gotten to this weight naturally if I didnt do steroids.

In 1997, joined the military. couldnt use any gear....weight dropped from around 220 pounds to 190 pounds... I still had muscle then. I wasnt big but you could tell that I lifted weight.

In 2002-2003, got on a cycle of sust and deca. My weight shot up to 230-240 pounds. At one point while bulking, my weight shot up to 260-270 pounds (on cycle). I looked like a freakin football player Attached is a picture of me at a little over 240 pounds but I was retaining a lot of water as well.... Military picture, I was a little over 270 pounds (bulked up)

Stopped sometime around mid 2003, when I stopped cold turkey, I couldnt bench even 315 pounds...struggled with 225 for reps, couldnt even squat 315 pounds. When I was "on" I could bench over 315 pounds for over 10 reps with ease.... Squat over 405 pounds for reps with ease, etc

That strength when "off" was gone and body weight  started to decrease. down to 220...during that time I got into some type of "depression" if thats what you want to call it so I started doing nothing but eating...and the amounts of food i ate was alot...weight shot up gradually to 260 to over 270 pounds... I looked like a freakin linebacker.   At times when I would drop to 250, I wouldnt "look" fat with clothes prbably because I sucked my gut in. But I was still what other people consider "big" as in I looked like I lifted weights and worked out.  Even when clean...I could rep 120s-140s for dumbbell bench press, do the whole stack for lat pull downs and back cable rows. I trained "heavy" naturally but couldnt do reps with barbell bench press with 315s or squat 315s...dont ask me why I couldnt do it....I cant do it while "Off" I struggle with squats and barbell bench with 315 pounds....but with dumbbells I am pretty strong...

I dont know if I kept my steriod gains...I think not...I think what saved me was the gains I made while natural and "fat as hell". because if I had kept most of my steriod gains, I believe that I would be around 220s to 230 pounds dieted down to almost no fat on my body but "natural" I went down to 192 pounds...do you see what I mean? I believe if I followed the plan to a "T", I would have been 180s-190 pounds natural if I didnt cheat on my diet and was more harder and drier...

I believe, if a pro stopped juicing....and went down to a natural weight like low 200s, he would have a hard time benching 315s or squating 315s especially if that pro is 5'9" and over. I always wonder how much kevin Levrone could bench now that he is natural or Flex Wheeler can bench or squat now that they are natural...personally I dont  believe they can do much as they done while enhanced...but maybe if they trained like natural powerlifters and had the body weight of 300 plus pounds they could do it

**Questions to ask.... are these people genetically gifted? Or chemically/genetically enhanced? I say genetically enhanced. Steriods/anabolics "augments" your genetic potential....

**Squadfather said it best...its not possible for someone 5"10" to 6 feet to be over 210-220 pounds naturally at 10% bodyfat. I only could do it while I was "on". I could never do it naturally....I just proved  that at 192 pounds at 5'10" and a half I was under 10% bodyfat (natural).  When I was "on" and low bodyfat at 230-240s, I would tell people I was natural...I was such a liar but I did what i had to because I am in the military....and you have people in the military who would stab someone in the back to propel themselves in their careers to make themselves look better or draw attention away from themselves...this is how the real military is...there is a brotherhood or family in some career fields in the military but in my experience and career field, there isnt...you have back biters and fakes who are good for nothing and lazy and will backstab you to propel their careers to make themselves look good.....I call them fakes and asskissers..there are a lot of them in the military especially in the Air Force....

** I am in the military, and someone could use what I said against me and try to put me in jail for something I did in my past...but I cant change my past. I believe its a personal choice. People who use it use it to better themselves and are still law abiding citizens (even though people may disagree) who pay taxes and do no harm to no one....

**Again, what I explained about gear is my personal theory.....

you looked fantastic regardless man, not many people rep 315 on the bench regardless of what you hear on here.

[Bast000]

For god's sake you dated this (I'm sorry for her sake, no offense to her as I feel bad for people who were born looking like this) woman for crying out loud. She's like a -2 out of 10.

you've outgayed yourself

[muscleforlife]

looking good Jerryme.
Sandra

[SteelePegasus]

I'm only 20 and you're only bigger in your arms. I'm 6'2.. you're 5'7 And you're a 38 year old dianabol popping, test shooting, tennis failure who enjoys women with overly hairy vaginas... That says enough about how much of a joke you are.

For god's sake you dated this (I'm sorry for her sake, no offense to her as I feel bad for people who were born looking like this) woman for crying out loud. She's like a -2 out of 10.

I would hit it

[Cleanest Natural]

Lying through your teeth here buddy . All those who suppert your theory never dieted for a show clean or not and are at best weekend warriors. Since I've done it both ways I'll tell u this : You would be 175 lbs maybe if u dieted down clean at 5-6 % bodyfat .The theory that past cycles helped u because u had a lot of muscle left from 4 years ago    does not hold here . You need to be ON to maintain those gains and MOST IMPORTANT , You need AAS to hold on to 192 lbs while u diet down. With all that cardio and no AAS you would be a stick come contest time. Squadfatter sides wityh you but again ; HE IS A FAT DUDE WHO NEVER DIETED DOWN ALL TALK AND DOESN'T KNOW WHAT'S UP IN THAT DEPARTAMENT . Sorry : AGAIN 

[Cleanest Natural]

I'm only 20 and you're only bigger in your arms. I'm 6'2.. you're 5'7 And you're a 38 year old dianabol popping, test shooting, tennis failure who enjoys women with overly hairy vaginas... That says enough about how much of a joke you are.

For god's sake you dated this (I'm sorry for her sake, no offense to her as I feel bad for people who were born looking like this) woman for crying out loud. She's like a -2 out of 10.

that girl is from a site...hahahaa...monster self ownage there twig

[Forka]

Lying through your teeth here buddy . All those who suppert your theory never dieted for a show clean or not and are at best weekend warriors. Since I've done it both ways I'll tell u this : You would be 175 lbs maybe if u dieted down clean at 5-6 % bodyfat .The theory that past cycles helped u because u had a lot of muscle left from 4 years ago    does not hold here . You need to be ON to maintain those gains and MOST IMPORTANT , You need AAS to hold on to 192 lbs while u diet down. With all that cardio and no AAS you would be a stick come contest time. Squadfatter sides wityh you but again ; HE IS A FAT DUDE WHO NEVER DIETED DOWN ALL TALK AND DOESN'T KNOW WHAT'S UP IN THAT DEPARTAMENT . Sorry : AGAIN 

When you've done it both ways....  Are you stating that you've done it naturally and of course, with AAS?

[Cleanest Natural]

When you've done it both ways....  Are you stating that you've done it naturally and of course, with AAS?

yes...I'll post pics of dieting down while clean at 178..and nowhere near 6% more like 8-9 % . This is with no aas , 2 hours cardio daily..as u can see it leaves u with not a lot of muscle to speak of.

[Jerryme7]

Sevastase said

Lying through your teeth here buddy . All those who suppert your theory never dieted for a show clean or not and are at best weekend warriors. Since I've done it both ways I'll tell u this : You would be 175 lbs maybe if u dieted down clean at 5-6 % bodyfat .The theory that past cycles helped u because u had a lot of muscle left from 4 years ago     does not hold here . You need to be ON to maintain those gains and MOST IMPORTANT , You need AAS to hold on to 192 lbs while u diet down. With all that cardio and no AAS you would be a stick come contest time. Squadfatter sides wityh you but again ; HE IS A FAT DUDE WHO NEVER DIETED DOWN ALL TALK AND DOESN'T KNOW WHAT'S UP IN THAT DEPARTAMENT . Sorry : AGAIN  

Ok...then please tell me this...prior to doing any steriods, I was 190 pounds (natural) in 1994.  

I did numerous steriod cycles and off and on and in 2003 I stopped completely.... After being natural for a number of years and training for my first show.....why did my body revert to being only 192 pounds?  If I had kept all my steriod gains....dont you think my body would have been over 200 pounds or over 210 pounds or maybe over 220 pounds? Why did my body go down to around the bodyweight (190 pounds) I had before i ever touched a steriod?

Forka said and asked

Thanks for answering my question's Jeremy. Honestly, I think you've set a tremendous example for all us. I find your story compelling because you did all of this while contending with outside obligations. Another interesting aspect was that the fact that you didn't start out with the ideal physique. For me, I can't relate to guys who put there whole life into competing. I have done the same for little stints, where I started focusing too much on bodybuilding, and not enough on other aspects of my life.The appeal for me has always been to integrate a bodybuilding lifestyle into my life. Sometimes its hard to admit that you're tired, and you just don't have the energy.  Sometimes, you have to understand that other aspects of your life will take precedence, such as a career or a family.

Anyhow, From my understanding, you decided to part with AAS because it could jeopardize your future, is that correct?

Training for this contest was very hard. it took a lot of sacrifice and allienating a lot of my friends because I couldnt really go out much or go out to eat with them not to mention being in the gym all the time because you have to do cardio morning and night... for the pro and ametuers traning for contests, I can undertsand the sacrifices it takes....thank God I dont have a girlfriend or have any kids because that relationship would have been ruined because I focused so much on this training.

Forka, do you have a family? How do they feel about your bodybuilding lifestyle? My last girlfriend couldnt understand why I was in the gym for 2 hours and it caused strain on our relationship. It was so hard balancing a relationship and working out that it tore us apart....

Well, I guess I stopped steriods because I had a bad experience when I got off...Ill be very candid and honest but I remember when there was a time when it completely detroyed my libido and couldnt get it up no matter how gorgeous the woman was. It took months to get it back and it could lead to disorders of the mind which can affect you to this day........another reason too is the military, they do test for reecreational drug use but a steriod test has to be commander directed. I remember at one point in 2003, I went to a function where they had tug of war and i was wearing a tank top. There were a few people yelling out loud that I should be tested and everybody just looked at me, I was quiet for awhile not knowing what was going to happen the next day...cause if they did test you for steriods and you are positive, you could be dishonorably discharged or you can go to jail..believe it or not...there were some cadets at the Air Force Academy who took andro (pro hormones) and was sent to jail for something so little and adro!!!!  So this was one of the reasons. Another one was an ex girlfriend didnt like me doing it because it was illegal. It caused a lot of stress on our relationship...I was never violent..I was pretty much the same old person...just bigger...she compared a steriod user  the same as a drug addict....she made both of them synonymous with each other...

Ill be honest, I mean I loved the strength anabolics gave me and the recovery time and it does screw with your mind when you come off especially when you are losing your strength and are getting smaller. I got better results from anabolics then I did with supplements promising you steriod like gains (muscletech). Anabolics were much more cost effective then any Muscletech, EAS, ect! And they worked too!!

Who is to say that a person will use or never use again? We all have goals...its a personal choice...

[Jerryme7]

Sevastase...you think this is a lot of muscle?

Im kinda shocked because personally, I felt lanky and skinny....but I guess I should take what you said as a compliment...because I did do this show as a natural....

[Cleanest Natural]

For doing a show clean, yes , I believe it's a lot of muscle. I also believe that u are not ripped. U got a beach body going on...Going under 6% IF u manage it will eat up almost all the muscle left.Most of the people arguing here with me forget one thing : it's not a big deal to be 200 lbs naturally at 10 %....192 at 7% at 5'10" is I believe . But since I do not want to speculate since You are the only one who knows for sure,  , I'd like to hear GH15's oppinion, as well as maybe van bilderass.

[Jerryme7]

Sevastase said

For doing a show clean, yes , I believe it's a lot of muscle. I also believe that u are not ripped. U got a beach body going on...Going under 6% IF u manage it will eat up almost all the muscle left.Most of the people arguing here with me forget one thing : it's not a big deal to be 200 lbs naturally at 10 %....192 at 7% at 5'10" is I believe . But since I do not want to speculate since You are the only one who knows for sure,  , I'd like to hear GH15's oppinion, as well as maybe van bilderass.

I agree, I am not as ripped as I could have been. I did end up cheating a few times on my diet so I always wonder what my body would have been like if I didnt cheat on multiple occassions.

As far as Beach Body...thank you..Ive always wanted a beach body....

I dont know what bodyfat percentage I was...but what I do know was I had veins in my chest and shoulders which I thought looked really freaky...

[Croatch]

This guy is most likely natural.  I can't say for sure because I don't know him, but come on, why would someone claim to be natural who isn't...and on the web of all places...ahha  That's like lying about your SAT score to a bunch of retarded kids.
Give the guy credit, he looks pretty good and didn't rely on gear to get that way.  Few people have the heart to do that, end of story.  Gyms are flooded with 2nd rate wannabe Olympia juicers.  We need more people like this in bodybuilding, but let's face it, most simply can't do it.

I'd hit it.

































With one of these.


























Just joking, I would split her ass, but wouldn't date her.

[Cleanest Natural]

Do not get me wrong : you looked very good and prolly worked hard to do the show . I only said u used aas and fatburners to get shredded and keep muscle on.

[Forka]

Sevastase said
Ok...then please tell me this...prior to doing any steriods, I was 190 pounds (natural) in 1994.  

I did numerous steriod cycles and off and on and in 2003 I stopped completely.... After being natural for a number of years and training for my first show.....why did my body revert to being only 192 pounds?  If I had kept all my steriod gains....dont you think my body would have been over 200 pounds or over 210 pounds or maybe over 220 pounds? Why did my body go down to around the bodyweight (190 pounds) I had before i ever touched a steriod?

Forka said and asked
Training for this contest was very hard. it took a lot of sacrifice and allienating a lot of my friends because I couldnt really go out much or go out to eat with them not to mention being in the gym all the time because you have to do cardio morning and night... for the pro and ametuers traning for contests, I can undertsand the sacrifices it takes....thank God I dont have a girlfriend or have any kids because that relationship would have been ruined because I focused so much on this training.

Forka, do you have a family? How do they feel about your bodybuilding lifestyle? My last girlfriend couldnt understand why I was in the gym for 2 hours and it caused strain on our relationship. It was so hard balancing a relationship and working out that it tore us apart....

Well, I guess I stopped steriods because I had a bad experience when I got off...Ill be very candid and honest but I remember when there was a time when it completely detroyed my libido and couldnt get it up no matter how gorgeous the woman was. It took months to get it back and it could lead to disorders of the mind which can affect you to this day........another reason too is the military, they do test for reecreational drug use but a steriod test has to be commander directed. I remember at one point in 2003, I went to a function where they had tug of war and i was wearing a tank top. There were a few people yelling out loud that I should be tested and everybody just looked at me, I was quiet for awhile not knowing what was going to happen the next day...cause if they did test you for steriods and you are positive, you could be dishonorably discharged or you can go to jail..believe it or not...there were some cadets at the Air Force Academy who took andro (pro hormones) and was sent to jail for something so little and adro!!!!  So this was one of the reasons. Another one was an ex girlfriend didnt like me doing it because it was illegal. It caused a lot of stress on our relationship...I was never violent..I was pretty much the same old person...just bigger...she compared a steriod user  the same as a drug addict....she made both of them synonymous with each other...

Ill be honest, I mean I loved the strength anabolics gave me and the recovery time and it does screw with your mind when you come off especially when you are losing your strength and are getting smaller. I got better results from anabolics then I did with supplements promising you steriod like gains (muscletech). Anabolics were much more cost effective then any Muscletech, EAS, ect! And they worked too!!

Who is to say that a person will use or never use again? We all have goals...its a personal choice...

No man, I'm not married, and I do not have any children. Although, I hope to, one day when I'm ready. My concern at the moment is graduating. 

I'm 29, and like an idiot, I still have physical aspirations.  The problem is, I don't have much time. I have tried everything, I have really put it all on the line…But I can't manage my program if I don't commit myself 100%.  So school takes  a precedence, but only for a few more months, then its finally over.  At the moment, I have a lot of pressure on me, and being the emotional eater, I tend to eat when I probably shouldn't, and then I skip meals when I KNOW I shouldn't. I am not fat, but I'm certainly not ripped either. Your story is far more reaching then most, and I think its pretty amazing what you did. Although I must say, if you don't mind me saying, I find it a bit disappointing that your relationship had prematurely ended because of your commitment to the game of iron. I mean, that's a bit extreme, wouldn't you agree?  I really do appreciate your honesty here, and I really do hope you're are a true natural.  It would really be a shame if you're not telling the truth.

On another note, you said permanent mental  side-effects?  What do you mean by this?  And as far your libido, what about PCT?  Did you follow a proper protocol?

As for Sevastase, you seem like a decent guy man, but some of the stuff you post is a little bit odd.  Your back double bicep shot…  I say this with all respect man, it’s a bit….strange.  You shouldn't post shit like that on web, let alone getbig.

[JasonH]

Awesome physique for a natural Jerry - congrats on the contest. That midsection is top amateur standard and you've got some great genetics for a tall guy - good showing man.

[AWL8UP]

I usually just lurk on the board every day as I don't want to get involved in the drama but this is a ridiculous.  Let's give the guy the benefit of the doubt.  It took a hell of a lot of work to put a competitive package on stage.

For Jerryme - You look great and no one can take that away from you.  At the end of the day there are very few people who can accomplish what you did whether they are on or off AAS.  I'll bet you worked harder for this than anything you've worked for in your life.  Don't feel like you have to justify yourself to everyone.  You know you did it naturally and that is the end of it.  There is nothing you can say to convince someone who does not believe you so just agree to disagree.

Again, congratulations on a great show.

[The Squadfather]

I usually just lurk on the board every day as I don't want to get involved in the drama but this is a ridiculous.  Let's give the guy the benefit of the doubt.  It took a hell of a lot of work to put a competitive package on stage.

For Jerryme - You look great and no one can take that away from you.  At the end of the day there are very few people who can accomplish what you did whether they are on or off AAS.  I'll bet you worked harder for this than anything you've worked for in your life.  Don't feel like you have to justify yourself to everyone.  You know you did it naturally and that is the end of it.  There is nothing you can say to convince someone who does not believe you so just agree to disagree.

Again, congratulations on a great show.

i agree, Jerry looked great.

[slaveboy1980]

I am now fully convinced u are full of SHIAT. U did no anabolics  u went to 5-6% bodyfat  , used no diuretics AND U STILL MANAGED TO HOLD ON TO ALL THAT MUSCLE. WOW!!!! I AM CONVINCED THAT IF U WOULD  USE ANABOLICS, FATBURNERS AND DIURETIC U WOULD EASILY CLEAN HOUSE AT THE NATIONALS. WHERE DO THESE CLOWNS COME FROM THANK U JESUS!!!

feeling small spermastase?

[SteelePegasus]

Sevastase...you think this is a lot of muscle?

Im kinda shocked because personally, I felt lanky and skinny....but I guess I should take what you said as a compliment...because I did do this show as a natural....

technically you were clean not natural

big difference..and an insult to us naturals..

and good job, you look impressive for being clean that long

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looking good, jerry.  from the video, you should hold the poses longer, otherwise it is ok.