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Re: I finally did a show (A natural show)
« Reply #150 on: November 13, 2007, 11:33:03 PM »
OP: "I dont know what my body fat was exactly"

reply: "i'LL TELL U RIGHT OFF THE BAT THAT YOU ARE WRONG ABOUT YOUR BODYFAT PERCENTAGE"

???

Amusing.

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Re: I finally did a show (A natural show)
« Reply #151 on: November 13, 2007, 11:36:00 PM »
OP: "I dont know what my body fat was exactly"

reply: "i'LL TELL U RIGHT OFF THE BAT THAT YOU ARE WRONG ABOUT YOUR BODYFAT PERCENTAGE"

???

Amusing.
no . Amusing is you not being able to come up with a pic showing everyone how u came in at 186 ripped naturally . Let the excuses/explanations begin.

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Re: I finally did a show (A natural show)
« Reply #152 on: November 13, 2007, 11:44:26 PM »
Sevastase -

No, no AAS, and my structure and bones are average. And I've no desire to post a pic or place a bet online.

Accept the fact that many have better genetics for bb than you do. This is a fact that all but a very tiny % of individuals have to accept.

Your claim that it's impossible to be ~ 195 lbs, 5 ft 10, and 5% bodyfat, w/o drugs, is silly.

I'm not sure if you truly believe this, or if you're just amusing yourself by intentionally posting nonsense.  Either way, tx for the amusement.

For you - and for me as a teenager - yes, this is/was indeed impossible (186 lb was biggest I ever got in contest shape) - but I've little trouble believing that there exists MANY individuals who could have 10 more lbs of fat-free muscle, at my height, than I had as a teenager.

Think bell curve, Sev - there will always be a few lucky individuals around the right-most asymptote.

Keep lifting,

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Re: I finally did a show (A natural show)
« Reply #153 on: November 14, 2007, 12:49:17 AM »
Sevastase -

No, no AAS, and my structure and bones are average. And I've no desire to post a pic or place a bet online.

Accept the fact that many have better genetics for bb than you do. This is a fact that all but a very tiny % of individuals have to accept.

Your claim that it's impossible to be ~ 195 lbs, 5 ft 10, and 5% bodyfat, w/o drugs, is silly.

I'm not sure if you truly believe this, or if you're just amusing yourself by intentionally posting nonsense.  Either way, tx for the amusement.

For you - and for me as a teenager - yes, this is/was indeed impossible (186 lb was biggest I ever got in contest shape) - but I've little trouble believing that there exists MANY individuals who could have 10 more lbs of fat-free muscle, at my height, than I had as a teenager.

Think bell curve, Sev - there will always be a few lucky individuals around the right-most asymptote.

Keep lifting,

bb doc
no . sorry to break it to you but don't compare yourself to me unless u posta pic to back it up. to me you are just a weekend warrior at best and to give u a challenge....here's 8% BODYFAT , CLEAN , NO FATBURNERS, T3, JUST TO GET IT STRAIGHT THAT U AND ME BUDDY WE ARE NOT IN THE SAME LEAGUE.  ;)

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Re: I finally did a show (A natural show)
« Reply #154 on: November 14, 2007, 03:08:34 AM »
sev do u model - nude, catwalk, magazine...?

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Re: I finally did a show (A natural show)
« Reply #155 on: November 14, 2007, 03:33:12 AM »
Great job Jerry and an awesome transformation!!

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Re: I finally did a show (A natural show)
« Reply #156 on: November 14, 2007, 04:10:33 AM »
sev do u model - nude, catwalk, magazine...?
nude...just for u .

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Re: I finally did a show (A natural show)
« Reply #157 on: November 14, 2007, 04:13:47 AM »
nude...just for u .

lol seriously though, do u model or get asked to model? cause u have the look for it, and dont compete, so i wondered what u do with it.

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Re: I finally did a show (A natural show)
« Reply #158 on: November 14, 2007, 04:21:29 AM »
lol seriously though, do u model or get asked to model? cause u have the look for it, and dont compete, so i wondered what u do with it.
I'm too ugly to model...I train clients and been specializing lately in weightloss diets...so I believe that by presenting a nice muscular physique people might get motivated and will pay attention to what I gotta say. And by the way : I DID COMPETE  ;)

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Re: I finally did a show (A natural show)
« Reply #159 on: November 14, 2007, 04:28:14 AM »
true im sure it does help. why dont u still compete?

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Re: I finally did a show (A natural show)
« Reply #160 on: November 14, 2007, 04:31:34 AM »
true im sure it does help. why dont u still compete?
Well , I haven't been on a serious cycle in a few years . And it takes time effort and money to pack on some serious beef to present a decent package at 200-210 lbs ...Currently working on it. :)

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Re: I finally did a show (A natural show)
« Reply #161 on: November 14, 2007, 05:22:02 AM »
Let's see ...you are a gym warrior weekend warrior wannabe who was skinny and now youre fat. U obviously don't know and don't understand shit about the body's physiology when it comes to doing a show. So again ; what's your point ?....I made mine because  I know what I see and what I'm talking about. What about u ? ever dieted down for a show ?...naturally ? If not , never preach to me again fatso . Do it first , and then you will at worst agree with me. you are 5'10" 280 ? IF u ever diet down to 6% bodyfat or 5% ( which by the way I think it's impossible without t3 and fatburners ) you will weigh exactly around 155-160 lbs. So before u criticize me learn your bodybuilding and then we can have a discussion. K ?  ;)

This response was expected.  It is quite unfortunate actually.  I never said I was lean; I mean, I admitted on a bodybuilding forum that I have a 40-inch waist!  I also stated that I would like to trim it a few inches; I think 36 would be realistic as I had a 36-inch waist when I was in college and decently lean (not contest ready lean, but just everyday, "walking-around-looking-in-great-shape" lean which is all I am shooting for).  Anyway, I give you a lot of credit as far as getting your bodyfat that low and my original post actually complimented your physique.  As much as others might flame on you on this board, the reality is that you probably do have a much better physique than most that post on here; good on ya!  True, I've never dieted down for a show, but I've never had the desire to compete anyways.  With my conviction to remain natural, how am I going to be able to compete on a level playing field with guys who juice plus have better genetics than me?  My motivation has always been to see how huge I could get naturally and with intense training; nothing more.  I have friends over the past 20 or so years whom I've been with almost everyday during their contest dieting, training, posing practice, etc., so although I don't have first-hand knowledge about prepping for a contest, I am not exactly clueless about it.  I give respect to all who compete and have the discipline like Jerry to get on that stage, no matter if the individual is juicing or not.  The person still had to train hard and diet his ass off; let's not forget that.

I am going to be 38 years old in a few days.  I have a great wife, two unbelievably cute kids, great (drama-free) family, great friends, and I make a decent living to get by.  Bodybuilding is about 11th or 12th on my list of priorities.  If that's what you classify as a "weekend warrior", then you are entitled to your opinion.  I currently workout 4 days a week, 1.5 to 2 hours each session with 30 minutes of cardio at the end.  I was involved in bodybuilding from '87 to '00, took a 7-year layoff (which I regret, but I had other things going on in my life like working on my career and trying to start a family after just getting married in '99), and have just gotten back in the gym since the beginning of July of this year.  I started off (hadn't touched a weight in 7 years) at 247 lbs on July 7th and am about 278 lbs today; thank goodness for muscle memory!  Gaining back the muscle has been a lot easier than trying to burn fat!  I don't know my current measurements; don't own a tape measure.  But I do know that on my wedding day back in '99 when I was in my best shape both in terms of fat percentage and muscle mass, I weighed 252 lbs with 19 3/8" arms.  Recently, due to my weight gain, I've had to get new jackets for work from a 50" to 54", but with my pants' waist size the same (although fat at 40" as it may be).  Even though I wasn't training for 7 years, I still tried to keep up on the sport, attend a couple of shows that friends would enter, etc.  I still had the love of the iron I guess you could say.

Anyway, I wasn't preaching to you about contest dieting.  I was "preaching" (your terminology) to you about questioning people's character and to try not to be so quick to do so.  What is your reality isn't necessarily the reality for others.  It's nothing to be ashamed of that both you and I don't have world-class genetics for this sport.  All we can do is train, eat, etc., to the best of our ability and leave it God's hands and be happy that we are healthy at least.

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Re: I finally did a show (A natural show)
« Reply #162 on: November 14, 2007, 08:02:55 AM »
Personally, I think Sevastase has awesome genetics. Look at that dude's legs!!! He has a physique that a lot of us want to attain...

I dont understand why someone would say he/she has poor genetics or why anyone would say they or this guy or this girl has poor genetics.. Cant someone bring up a bodypart to give the illusion of balance? Isnt that what bodybuilding is supposed to be.

Maybe the person just isnt eating right or training right?

There are a lot of weak bodyparts that I have but I believe that if I work on them hard, I could better them.

I believe that anyone can make the most of what they are born/dealt with.. ..

 

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Re: I finally did a show (A natural show)
« Reply #163 on: November 14, 2007, 08:06:54 AM »
hahahahhaa, i love the time tested "you may be 5'10" 285 pounds at 22 percent bodyfat but if you dieted down to negative 2 percent bodyfat like me you'll be 122 pounds, fatty!!" ::)

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Re: I finally did a show (A natural show)
« Reply #164 on: November 14, 2007, 09:59:29 AM »
This response was expected.  It is quite unfortunate actually.  I never said I was lean; I mean, I admitted on a bodybuilding forum that I have a 40-inch waist!  I also stated that I would like to trim it a few inches; I think 36 would be realistic as I had a 36-inch waist when I was in college and decently lean (not contest ready lean, but just everyday, "walking-around-looking-in-great-shape" lean which is all I am shooting for).  Anyway, I give you a lot of credit as far as getting your bodyfat that low and my original post actually complimented your physique.  As much as others might flame on you on this board, the reality is that you probably do have a much better physique than most that post on here; good on ya!  True, I've never dieted down for a show, but I've never had the desire to compete anyways.  With my conviction to remain natural, how am I going to be able to compete on a level playing field with guys who juice plus have better genetics than me?  My motivation has always been to see how huge I could get naturally and with intense training; nothing more.  I have friends over the past 20 or so years whom I've been with almost everyday during their contest dieting, training, posing practice, etc., so although I don't have first-hand knowledge about prepping for a contest, I am not exactly clueless about it.  I give respect to all who compete and have the discipline like Jerry to get on that stage, no matter if the individual is juicing or not.  The person still had to train hard and diet his ass off; let's not forget that.

I am going to be 38 years old in a few days.  I have a great wife, two unbelievably cute kids, great (drama-free) family, great friends, and I make a decent living to get by.  Bodybuilding is about 11th or 12th on my list of priorities.  If that's what you classify as a "weekend warrior", then you are entitled to your opinion.  I currently workout 4 days a week, 1.5 to 2 hours each session with 30 minutes of cardio at the end.  I was involved in bodybuilding from '87 to '00, took a 7-year layoff (which I regret, but I had other things going on in my life like working on my career and trying to start a family after just getting married in '99), and have just gotten back in the gym since the beginning of July of this year.  I started off (hadn't touched a weight in 7 years) at 247 lbs on July 7th and am about 278 lbs today; thank goodness for muscle memory!  Gaining back the muscle has been a lot easier than trying to burn fat!  I don't know my current measurements; don't own a tape measure.  But I do know that on my wedding day back in '99 when I was in my best shape both in terms of fat percentage and muscle mass, I weighed 252 lbs with 19 3/8" arms.  Recently, due to my weight gain, I've had to get new jackets for work from a 50" to 54", but with my pants' waist size the same (although fat at 40" as it may be).  Even though I wasn't training for 7 years, I still tried to keep up on the sport, attend a couple of shows that friends would enter, etc.  I still had the love of the iron I guess you could say.

Anyway, I wasn't preaching to you about contest dieting.  I was "preaching" (your terminology) to you about questioning people's character and to try not to be so quick to do so.  What is your reality isn't necessarily the reality for others.  It's nothing to be ashamed of that both you and I don't have world-class genetics for this sport.  All we can do is train, eat, etc., to the best of our ability and leave it God's hands and be happy that we are healthy at least.


I doubt you were lean in college.  I know alot of people that say they have a 32 waist but their pants set below a hugh 45 inch stomach.  Get real you were not lean compared to typical gym rat much less contest shape.

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Re: I finally did a show (A natural show)
« Reply #165 on: November 14, 2007, 10:02:08 AM »
hahahahhaa, i love the time tested "you may be 5'10" 285 pounds at 22 percent bodyfat but if you dieted down to negative 2 percent bodyfat like me you'll be 122 pounds, fatty!!" ::)

I bet this guy is nowhere close to 22% BF.

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Re: I finally did a show (A natural show)
« Reply #166 on: November 14, 2007, 10:29:15 AM »
I am a lifetime natural...

When I graduated high school, I weighed 167 lbs at 5' 10 1/2"; today I am just a hair under 280 lbs. 

280?  Man, that's huge.  Do you have a picture?

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Re: I finally did a show (A natural show)
« Reply #167 on: November 14, 2007, 11:42:34 AM »
Personally, I think Sevastase has awesome genetics. Look at that dude's legs!!! He has a physique that a lot of us want to attain...

I dont understand why someone would say he/she has poor genetics or why anyone would say they or this guy or this girl has poor genetics.. Cant someone bring up a bodypart to give the illusion of balance? Isnt that what bodybuilding is supposed to be.

Maybe the person just isnt eating right or training right?

There are a lot of weak bodyparts that I have but I believe that if I work on them hard, I could better them.

I believe that anyone can make the most of what they are born/dealt with.. ..

 
U def got a point there....for example , my legs in this pic measure only 60 cm in circumference ...that's roughly 24-25 inches....although they look bigger...it's def an illusion...

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Re: I finally did a show (A natural show)
« Reply #168 on: November 14, 2007, 12:12:36 PM »
dude, clean your fucking apartment

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Re: I finally did a show (A natural show)
« Reply #169 on: November 14, 2007, 02:43:13 PM »
If Jerry and Sevastase don't have anything to hide, then why should I? Here's a pic taken over the weekend; that's me to the right.  Again, nothing to brag about; there's my 40-inch waist in all its glory.  I'm a work in progress as is everyone else.  Believe me, this is the fattest I've ever been in my life, which is one reason why I'm back in the gym.  I've only recently been confident enough to tuck in my shirts (anybody out there who's overweight can relate; it's kinda embarrassing to have a gut hanging over the beltline).  The gut is still pretty out there, but it's improved some over the past 4 months.  I'm patient; afterall, it took years to develop the damn gut in the first place!  :P 

This thread should be about Jerry OK?  Jerry's the one who had the balls and the determination to put himself out there; I don't think I could ever do it and I consider myself a pretty goal-oriented guy.

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Re: I finally did a show (A natural show)
« Reply #170 on: November 14, 2007, 02:58:13 PM »
5'10, 280...you hide your weight well. 

Looking good, man.

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Re: I finally did a show (A natural show)
« Reply #171 on: November 14, 2007, 11:54:08 PM »
U got to be kidding me right ?....u preach me about contest prep and the amount of muscle u can loose , never did a show , never used aas .....wtf are u doing in this conversation ?...no offence but u should stick to just going to the gym. The point I made about jerry I believe u cannot understand.

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Re: I finally did a show (A natural show)
« Reply #172 on: November 15, 2007, 01:01:55 AM »
sev u have big hams, thats why ur legs look bigger there. but decent quads too. they look massive from front on.

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Re: I finally did a show (A natural show)
« Reply #173 on: November 15, 2007, 01:27:51 AM »
sev u have big hams, thats why ur legs look bigger there. but decent quads too. they look massive from front on.
they are only 24 inches in those shots...I know how to spread them hahahhahahaha ....my hams are small...but my adductors are well developed

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Re: I finally did a show (A natural show)
« Reply #174 on: November 15, 2007, 01:32:43 AM »
If Jerry and Sevastase don't have anything to hide, then why should I? Here's a pic taken over the weekend; that's me to the right.  Again, nothing to brag about; there's my 40-inch waist in all its glory.  I'm a work in progress as is everyone else.  Believe me, this is the fattest I've ever been in my life, which is one reason why I'm back in the gym.  I've only recently been confident enough to tuck in my shirts (anybody out there who's overweight can relate; it's kinda embarrassing to have a gut hanging over the beltline).  The gut is still pretty out there, but it's improved some over the past 4 months.  I'm patient; afterall, it took years to develop the damn gut in the first place!  :P 

This thread should be about Jerry OK?  Jerry's the one who had the balls and the determination to put himself out there; I don't think I could ever do it and I consider myself a pretty goal-oriented guy.

You look like Keith in contest shape.