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Congress aims to extinguish cigarettes
« on: November 10, 2007, 11:34:43 AM »
 :)  My how times have changed.  It wasn't that long ago that a member of the House was handing out checks from tobacco lobbyists right before an important tobacco vote.  http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/02/02/AR2006020202571_pf.html


Nov 10, 10:04 AM EST

Congress aims to extinguish cigarettes
By CHARLES BABINGTON
Associated Press Writer
 
WASHINGTON (AP) -- Congress is taking new whacks at the cigarette industry, banning tobacco sales in Senate buildings and - more importantly - seeking a significant federal tax increase on cigarettes.

The industry, once a lobbying behemoth, is quietly working against the tax bill. But it lacks the clout it once wielded.

Several key lawmakers said they have had no recent contacts with tobacco lobbyists. And both houses have signaled a willingness to raise the cigarette tax if other provisions of a children's health bill can be resolved.

"I think the industry has tried to do things more quietly, largely because they obviously know how popular a tobacco tax is," said Ron Pollack, executive director of Families USA. The health advocacy group supports a proposed $35 billion increase in the State Children's Health Insurance Program, which a higher cigarette tax would finance.

House and Senate negotiators are trying to craft a veto-proof version of the bill. President Bush says he would veto it because it calls for a 61 cents-per-pack increase in the federal excise tax on cigarettes, taking it to $1.

The House came within about a dozen votes of overriding Bush's veto of a similar bill last month. The bill's supporters are offering to change program eligibility rules in hopes of picking up enough Republicans to make the revised bill veto-proof. The proposed cigarette tax increase is not at issue, leaders of both parties said.

Philip Morris USA, the nation's largest cigarette maker, sponsors a Web site, mailings and a toll-free number urging people to ask Congress to sustain Bush's veto. "Taxing smokers is unfair," the materials say, adding that states have increased sales taxes on cigarettes 73 times since 2000.

"We are sharing our position with legislators," Philip Morris spokesman Bill Phelps said in an interview. The company also has encouraged tobacco growers, retailers and wholesalers to get involved, he said.

But tobacco's critics say health concerns have deeply eroded the industry's influence in Congress.

"The country and elected officials have really made a turn," said Bill Corr, executive director of the Campaign for Tobacco-Free Kids. Cigarette companies, he said, "don't have the opportunity to go in and push members as much."

The tobacco industry gave $3.5 million to federal campaigns and candidates in the 2006 election cycle, ranking 64th among major industry groups, according to the Center for Responsive Politics. Ten years earlier, it gave $10.5 million, ranking 26th.

Some Democratic lawmakers have groused that House Minority Whip Roy Blunt, R-Mo., is married to a lobbyist who has worked for Philip Morris' parent company. Blunt, who is monitoring the children's health negotiations, says his wife no longer lobbies on tobacco issues.

In a landmark 1998 settlement of many lawsuits, four major tobacco companies agreed to help states pay for smoking-related health care costs. They paid $52.6 billion from 2000 to 2005, the government reported.

In some ways, tobacco's presence on Capitol Hill is literally waning. The Senate Rules Committee recently ordered shops in the Capitol and all Senate office buildings to end cigarette sales by Jan. 1.

Cigarettes are still sold in the Longworth House Office Building. But last January, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., banned smoking in the ornate Speaker's Lobby, just off the House floor.

"The days of smoke-filled rooms in the United States Capitol are over," she said, citing the risks of cancer and respiratory diseases.

Other congressional actions could have a far greater impact on the industry. A Senate committee recently approved legislation that would, for the first time, allow federal regulation of cigarettes. The bill, also pending in the House, would require the Food and Drug Administration to restrict tobacco advertising, regulate warning labels and remove hazardous ingredients.
 
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Re: Congress aims to extinguish cigarettes
« Reply #1 on: November 10, 2007, 12:02:23 PM »
A bunch of crap.

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Re: Congress aims to extinguish cigarettes
« Reply #2 on: November 10, 2007, 07:31:20 PM »
not gonna happen, and it should not anyways.

you have a right to smoke why do you want to crush capitolism in such a retarded manner, as well as your civil liberties.


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Re: Congress aims to extinguish cigarettes
« Reply #3 on: November 11, 2007, 01:13:37 AM »
I hope they will ban the fcuk out of the cigarette corporations.

Making money of people's bad health. Nothing good coming out of smoking..

Just horrible diseases, ultimately leading to death.

How many of the cigarette corporation executives smokes two packs a day?

After all, they should enjoy their own products. >:(
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Re: Congress aims to extinguish cigarettes
« Reply #4 on: November 11, 2007, 01:59:49 AM »
smoking should be banned from public places
im sick of being covered in cigarette smoke from filthy weak assholes that smoke indoors. no one else wants to be exposed to your shit. if you must smoke do it at home or outside away from everyone else, the non-smokers dont want to be subjected to your shit you inconsiderate assholes.

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Re: Congress aims to extinguish cigarettes
« Reply #5 on: November 11, 2007, 04:27:17 AM »
+1 fucking nasty smell sticks to you  :-X
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Re: Congress aims to extinguish cigarettes
« Reply #6 on: November 11, 2007, 06:10:15 PM »
In the land of the free? tobacco helped to build this nation..

It just seems like we're banning shit while forgetting about individual civil liberties in the arguement of the greater good.  ::)

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Re: Congress aims to extinguish cigarettes
« Reply #7 on: November 11, 2007, 10:07:55 PM »
I hope they will ban the fcuk out of the cigarette corporations.

Making money of people's bad health. Nothing good coming out of smoking..

Just horrible diseases, ultimately leading to death.

How many of the cigarette corporation executives smokes two packs a day?

After all, they should enjoy their own products. >:(

We have really sold our soul to tobacco companies.  They are just flat out evil.  They have to hook kids to stay in business, because most people addicted to cigarettes started when they were kids.  The product, when used as intended (i.e., not abused), still results in disease, premature death, and an enormous burden on the health care system.

And smoking isn't a civil right, particularly when secondhand smoke affects nonsmokers.  It's a privilege.   

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Re: Congress aims to extinguish cigarettes
« Reply #8 on: November 12, 2007, 12:30:45 AM »
In the land of the free? tobacco helped to build this nation..

It just seems like we're banning shit while forgetting about individual civil liberties in the arguement of the greater good.  ::)

There are many arguments why marijuana should be allowed for medical use.

Still, I am not entirely convinced about marijuana. I definitely want to hear MD's arguments regarding it.

But when it comes to tobacco, there is no, absolutely no hesitation.

There is nothing good about it.

It fcuks up the health globally. And the perverted thing is that once we in the industrialized world will have banned the fcuk out of these companies, they will prey on the poor people of the 3rd world.

Hate is a strong word, and I seldom use it. But if there is anything I have genuine hatred for, it is the tobacco industry.
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Re: Congress aims to extinguish cigarettes
« Reply #9 on: November 12, 2007, 06:24:45 AM »
Imagine what would happen if Congress suddenly banned caffeine.  90% of the people in America would be going thru withdrawl suddenly.  Work productivity would crash.  Economy would take a hit, even if its only a small one (just a little bit at every business in America causes probs - they add up)

Maybe removing tobacco would suck short term.  But in the long run, it'd be a great health thing.
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Re: Congress aims to extinguish cigarettes
« Reply #10 on: November 12, 2007, 10:24:49 AM »
Not just a great health thing, but great financial move. 

That industry is just immoral.  What other industry is permitted to produce and market carcinogens known to cause suffering and disease?  The fact they knowingly marketed to and hooked kids is just criminal. 

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Re: Congress aims to extinguish cigarettes
« Reply #11 on: November 12, 2007, 11:14:18 AM »
Not just a great health thing, but great financial move. 

That industry is just immoral.  What other industry is permitted to produce and market carcinogens known to cause suffering and disease?  The fact they knowingly marketed to and hooked kids is just criminal. 

Impact on economy is interesting.

Gas prices keep climbing, ppl won't be able to afford to smoke anyway.