I just don't like the way dogs become fixated on the dot. With a ball or a squeaky too, you throw it, or fake them out and then throw it, they they run like hell to go get it and shake it up when they catch it(the prey drive) and run back to you squeaking it, happy and proud of themselves. Plato sits, I say drop it, we do it all over again. Alot healthier to me. I dunno, just my theory. Let's see if we can get flower in this thread RAW FOOD SUCKS maybe she can join us.