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Sergio Vs Ronnie - WHO WINS ??
« on: November 12, 2007, 08:59:33 AM »
Does anyone think Bodybuilders are better today????

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Re: Sergio Vs Ronnie - WHO WINS ??
« Reply #1 on: November 12, 2007, 09:02:47 AM »
Useless without pics damnit.
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Re: Sergio Vs Ronnie - WHO WINS ??
« Reply #2 on: November 12, 2007, 09:05:17 AM »
Quote from: Andre Nickatina on November 12, 2007, 09:02:47 AM
Useless without pics damnit.
Pic ( Direct Comparison ) on the link above dude!
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Re: Sergio Vs Ronnie - WHO WINS ??
« Reply #3 on: November 12, 2007, 09:22:52 AM »
Quote from: Trev on November 12, 2007, 09:05:17 AM
Pic ( Direct Comparison ) on the link above dude!

That first comparison pic is one of those infamously horrible iron age shots. Neither is a good representation. Accidentally on purpose they seem to put bad pics of contemporary BBs on their site.
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Re: Sergio Vs Ronnie - WHO WINS ??
« Reply #4 on: November 12, 2007, 09:29:15 AM »
Sergio had better taper, but that's about it. Oh, and better calves.

Coleman dominated him in all other regards, never been impressed w/ sergio.
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Re: Sergio Vs Ronnie - WHO WINS ??
« Reply #5 on: November 12, 2007, 10:07:36 AM »
Sergio. 'Nuff said.  :)
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Re: Sergio Vs Ronnie - WHO WINS ??
« Reply #6 on: November 12, 2007, 11:40:33 AM »
Sergio dominates Ronnie.  If it hadn't been for Arnold and Sergio's fight with Weider, Sergio would have been Mr. Olympia 6 or 7 years straight.

Ronnie probably beats Sergio from the back, but he has no aesthetics and can't compare when you take the full package into account. 

I'd like to see Ronnie match this... 



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Re: Sergio Vs Ronnie - WHO WINS ??
« Reply #7 on: November 12, 2007, 11:46:27 AM »
If you were to bring Ronnie back to the 70's Sergio would have easily dominated him, and if Sergio were to be in his prime now, he would have drugs he didn't back then, so again Sergio gets the win here.
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Re: Sergio Vs Ronnie - WHO WINS ??
« Reply #8 on: November 12, 2007, 11:47:47 AM »
bodybuilders today have too much muscle and their legs are too big, it ruins the look!
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Re: Sergio Vs Ronnie - WHO WINS ??
« Reply #9 on: November 12, 2007, 11:48:18 AM »
Two very different bb who were judged by different standards. I would want to look like Sergio but Ronnie at his best is the best bb I have ever seen.
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Re: Sergio Vs Ronnie - WHO WINS ??
« Reply #10 on: November 12, 2007, 11:49:48 AM »
anyway to answer the question, based on genetics(and i think that is all you can compare them on..diet drugs etc makes today a completely different ball game to 30 odd years ago) alone Sergio is superior to Ronnie!
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Re: Sergio Vs Ronnie - WHO WINS ??
« Reply #11 on: November 12, 2007, 02:35:06 PM »
sergio had a lot of the same qualities that make ronnie at his best the greatest ever:

eg. full muscle bellies, tiny waist, wide as hell back.

but, when you compare them, Sergio does get owned.

but is it really fair to compare a 1969 champion to a 1999 champion?

not really.
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Re: Sergio Vs Ronnie - WHO WINS ??
« Reply #12 on: November 12, 2007, 02:38:41 PM »
Quote from: swilkins1984 on November 12, 2007, 11:48:18 AM
Two very different bb who were judged by different standards. I would want to look like Sergio but Ronnie at his best is the best bb I have ever seen.

Best in what way?  He is one of the biggest and certainly was drier than Sergio (thanks to supps and diuretics and knowledge available today), but don't see how you can call him the best.  He doesn't have the balance and symmetry of Sergio and certainly doesn't have calves or small waist to match The Myth.  

Know it has been debated over and over again, but Ronnie didn't deserve half of the Sandows he won.  Olympia judging in the 90's and 00's sucked (and still sucks, isn't that right Jay?).  Yates and Coleman got several gifts over the past 15 years of Olympia judging.
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Re: Sergio Vs Ronnie - WHO WINS ??
« Reply #13 on: November 12, 2007, 02:50:20 PM »
I think when you look at the package of the crazy small waist and incredibly huge back... You just have to say The Myth.


The Myth has always been the best in my opinion, and others disagree... which is cool...

Just seems to me, that Sergio takes it if you add the sum of all the parts together.
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Re: Sergio Vs Ronnie - WHO WINS ??
« Reply #14 on: November 12, 2007, 02:52:10 PM »
Ronnie vs. anyone = Ronnie wins.
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Re: Sergio Vs Ronnie - WHO WINS ??
« Reply #15 on: November 12, 2007, 02:56:15 PM »
Quote from: Hulkster on November 12, 2007, 02:35:06 PM
sergio had a lot of the same qualities that make ronnie at his best the greatest ever:

eg. full muscle bellies, tiny waist, wide as hell back.

but, when you compare them, Sergio does get owned.

but is it really fair to compare a 1969 champion to a 1999 champion?

not really.

Sergio crushes Ronnie in the structure department he has a better natural structure he has a real tiny waist Ronnie doesn't , Ronnie has a narrow waist however his GUT protrudes even at very low weights you didn't see this with Sergio

Sergio has better balance & proportion he has calves that compliment his quads as well as forearms that are in proportion with his huge arms , Ronnie's never had great balance & proportion. Ronnie has the clear advantage in muscularity thanks to Teh Chad who dried him out but thats an advantage of modern ' supplements ' if Sergio was born in say 1965 he would have been everything Ronnie was and more


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Re: Sergio Vs Ronnie - WHO WINS ??
« Reply #16 on: November 12, 2007, 03:01:29 PM »
Quote from: NarcissisticDeity on November 12, 2007, 02:56:15 PM
Sergio crushes Ronnie in the structure department he has a better natural structure he has a real tiny waist Ronnie doesn't , Ronnie has a narrow waist however his GUT protrudes even at very low weights you didn't see this with Sergio

Sergio has better balance & proportion he has calves that compliment his quads as well as forearms that are in proportion with his huge arms , Ronnie's never had great balance & proportion. Ronnie has the clear advantage in muscularity thanks to Teh Chad who dried him out but thats an advantage of modern ' supplements ' if Sergio was born in say 1965 he would have been everything Ronnie was and more




In 1985, Sergio looked very, very well!  Photographic evidence below...

REVIEW OF THE CONTEST:

http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/mrolympiareport1985.html
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Re: Sergio Vs Ronnie - WHO WINS ??
« Reply #17 on: November 12, 2007, 03:02:57 PM »
Quote from: Matt C on November 12, 2007, 03:01:29 PM
In 1985, Sergio looked very, very well!  Photographic evidence below...

REVIEW OF THE CONTEST:

http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/mrolympiareport1985.html

No he didn't he looks like garbage same as in 84 it was a novelty seeing him compete but like Coleman his best days were far from over .
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Re: Sergio Vs Ronnie - WHO WINS ??
« Reply #18 on: November 12, 2007, 03:03:38 PM »
Quote from: NarcissisticDeity on November 12, 2007, 02:56:15 PM
Sergio crushes Ronnie in the structure department he has a better natural structure he has a real tiny waist Ronnie doesn't , Ronnie has a narrow waist however his GUT protrudes even at very low weights you didn't see this with Sergio

Sergio has better balance & proportion he has calves that compliment his quads as well as forearms that are in proportion with his huge arms , Ronnie's never had great balance & proportion. Ronnie has the clear advantage in muscularity thanks to Teh Chad who dried him out but thats an advantage of modern ' supplements ' if Sergio was born in say 1965 he would have been everything Ronnie was and more




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Re: Sergio Vs Ronnie - WHO WINS ??
« Reply #19 on: November 12, 2007, 03:06:21 PM »
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Re: Sergio Vs Ronnie - WHO WINS ??
« Reply #20 on: November 12, 2007, 03:10:44 PM »
Quote from: NarcissisticDeity on November 12, 2007, 03:02:57 PM
No he didn't he looks like garbage same as in 84 it was a novelty seeing him compete but like Coleman his best days were far from over .

He only looked like garbage by his own personal standards!  Much the same as Ronnie did.  He did place eighth at that show so give him some credit!  He was much improved from 1984 where he did not look very good!
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Re: Sergio Vs Ronnie - WHO WINS ??
« Reply #21 on: November 12, 2007, 03:14:32 PM »
Quote from: Matt C on November 12, 2007, 03:10:44 PM
He only looked like garbage by his own personal standards!  Much the same as Ronnie did.  He did place eighth at that show so give him some credit!  He was much improved from 1984 where he did not look very good!

He was off by his standards and his competitors as well .
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Re: Sergio Vs Ronnie - WHO WINS ??
« Reply #22 on: November 12, 2007, 03:15:54 PM »
when you consider raw potential then Sergio by a mile!! But obviously Ronnie out weighed Sergio by 35-40lbs and bigger over all. That being said the myth makes Ronnie look like a bloated pig
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Re: Sergio Vs Ronnie - WHO WINS ??
« Reply #23 on: November 12, 2007, 03:19:28 PM »
Quote from: Lord Humungous on November 12, 2007, 03:15:54 PM
when you consider raw potential then Sergio by a mile!! But obviously Ronnie out weighed Sergio by 35-40lbs and bigger over all. That being said the myth makes Ronnie look like a bloated pig

Lord Humungous has spoken !
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Re: Sergio Vs Ronnie - WHO WINS ??
« Reply #24 on: November 12, 2007, 03:23:05 PM »
Quote from: NarcissisticDeity on November 12, 2007, 03:06:21 PM
Great retort !  :)
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