Author Topic: Sergio Vs Ronnie - WHO WINS ??  (Read 35566 times)

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Re: Sergio Vs Ronnie - WHO WINS ??
« Reply #225 on: November 15, 2007, 05:18:33 PM »
You're full of shit period . you're responding to my post with this

Somebody who doesn't like Ronnie made him Orange and smooth.

and I'm supposed to take that it wasn't directed at me? lol sure  ;)

I hope your physique analysis is better than your psychic ability
because it wasn't directed @ you. PEACE!!

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Re: Sergio Vs Ronnie - WHO WINS ??
« Reply #226 on: November 15, 2007, 05:19:25 PM »
Sergio = Complete from head to toe!

Right

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Re: Sergio Vs Ronnie - WHO WINS ??
« Reply #227 on: November 15, 2007, 05:20:17 PM »
I hope your physique analysis is better than your psychic ability
because it wasn't directed @ you. PEACE!!

Again who did you respond to? if it wasn't directed towards me it wouldn't have been in response to MY thread  ;)

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Re: Sergio Vs Ronnie - WHO WINS ??
« Reply #228 on: November 15, 2007, 05:21:15 PM »
just push some weight!

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Re: Sergio Vs Ronnie - WHO WINS ??
« Reply #229 on: November 15, 2007, 05:22:56 PM »
YEAH!

fucking idiot usmoke sayd Sergio is narrow and has NO back lmfao

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Re: Sergio Vs Ronnie - WHO WINS ??
« Reply #230 on: November 15, 2007, 05:24:24 PM »
Dorian's size in that shot is mind-boggling  :o

so is his glaring imbalances.

ie twig arms on a barrel torso that ND and Co. seem to forget, but harp on ronnie for far more minor issues.. ::)
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Re: Sergio Vs Ronnie - WHO WINS ??
« Reply #231 on: November 15, 2007, 05:27:15 PM »
fucking idiot usmoke sayd Sergio is narrow and has NO back lmfao

Well who you going to believe? usmoke or Serge Nubret?



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Re: Sergio Vs Ronnie - WHO WINS ??
« Reply #232 on: November 15, 2007, 05:28:04 PM »
so is his glaring imbalances.

ie twig arms on a barrel torso that ND and Co. seem to forget, but harp on ronnie for far more minor issues.. ::)

Sorry sport these aren't twig arms  ;)

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Re: Sergio Vs Ronnie - WHO WINS ??
« Reply #233 on: November 15, 2007, 05:29:10 PM »
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Vascularity has absolutely nothing to do with who wins a contest. Some people find it grotesque. Personally, I like it and I think it adds to the freakness factor. But it doesn't decide who wins. The proof? Flex Wheeler, Dorian Yates, Lee Haney, Jay Cutler, Kevin Levrone, and I could go on. All had relatively low amounts of vascularity. On the flip side, look at Paul Dillet. He was probably the most vascular BB of all-time, yet he could barely win a show.



Another great point , he gets desperate he needs angles and he grasps as straws , he's clueless on how competitive bodybuilding contests are judged , excess vasculairty is actually frowned upon.



dear god yet another one who can't seem to understand the basic fundamental concept of judging that traits like vascularity are not looked at in isolation but rather in combo with other traits in synergy.

the more I see England_1 post, the more I realize he is just like ND...makes the same basic mistakes to a T.

conicidence?



hmmm...
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Re: Sergio Vs Ronnie - WHO WINS ??
« Reply #234 on: November 15, 2007, 05:30:22 PM »
Sorry sport these aren't twig arms  ;)

oh yes they are:
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Re: Sergio Vs Ronnie - WHO WINS ??
« Reply #235 on: November 15, 2007, 05:31:39 PM »



dear god yet another one who can't seem to understand the basic fundamental concept of judging that traits like vascularity are not looked at in isolation but rather in combo with other traits in synergy.

the more I see England_1 post, the more I realize he is just like ND...makes the same basic mistakes to a T.

conicidence?



hmmm...

I've read the entire IFBB judging criteria and NO WHERE does it mention vasculairty you're full of shit and wrong

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Re: Sergio Vs Ronnie - WHO WINS ??
« Reply #236 on: November 15, 2007, 05:33:17 PM »
I don't think bodybuilding wise anybody is even close to Sergio at his prime.

Ron Coleman and Dorian Yates can only dream about beeing built like that!



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Re: Sergio Vs Ronnie - WHO WINS ??
« Reply #237 on: November 15, 2007, 05:34:43 PM »
oh yes they are:

No they're not they can't be twigs in one pose and then get massive in another

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The man Dorian Yates , his combonation of size and shape makes for an awesome physique , unlike a lot of big guys he's not a load of massive parts just thrown together , His symmetry is almost perfect , Everything is in proportion , no weak bodyparts .


This is from an IFBB judge read the quote , accept it and move on , notice the mention of Ronnie " a load of massive parts just thrown together " lol

owned Ronnie's lack of balance & proportion is NOT minor its a major liability compared to someone with equal or great size , equal or better conditioning and has no bitch tits and can actually pose .

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Re: Sergio Vs Ronnie - WHO WINS ??
« Reply #238 on: November 15, 2007, 05:35:49 PM »
I've read the entire IFBB judging criteria and NO WHERE does it mention vasculairty you're full of shit and wrong

no, its called the difference between what is literally written and what is actually practiced in reality.

its called interpretation. (just like in the legal profession).

if you go stictly by what is written on the page, the word detail is not even mentioned if I recall..

thus, technically, striations, dieting down, it all doesn't matter.

but of course we know that this is not the case.

well, all of us but you, that is.. ::)
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Re: Sergio Vs Ronnie - WHO WINS ??
« Reply #239 on: November 15, 2007, 05:36:38 PM »
I love how when  ND is getting owned (which is often) he alway runs back to his useless quotes... ::)

he can't even think for himself.

so sad.

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Re: Sergio Vs Ronnie - WHO WINS ??
« Reply #240 on: November 15, 2007, 05:37:51 PM »
no, its called the difference between what is literally written and what is actually practiced in reality.

its called interpretation. (just like in the legal profession).

if you go stictly by what is written on the page, the word detail is not even mentioned if I recall..

thus, technically, striations, dieting down, it all doesn't matter.

but of course we know that this is not the case.

well, all of us but you, that is.. ::)

yeah his vasculairty is going to make up for his lack of balance & proportion lol great logic

anymore straws to grasp at?

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Re: Sergio Vs Ronnie - WHO WINS ??
« Reply #241 on: November 15, 2007, 05:39:45 PM »
yeah his vasculairty is going to make up for his lack of balance & proportion lol great logic

anymore straws to grasp at?

yeah, his balance and proportion is so bad he only won 8 Mr. Olympia titles, an Arnold Classic title, and more pro wins than anyone else in history..

 ::)

as was mentioned in another thread, ND continues to make a fool out of himself.. :'(
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Re: Sergio Vs Ronnie - WHO WINS ??
« Reply #242 on: November 15, 2007, 05:40:37 PM »
I think nasser would win

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Re: Sergio Vs Ronnie - WHO WINS ??
« Reply #243 on: November 15, 2007, 05:40:43 PM »
I love how when  ND is getting owned (which is often) he alway runs back to his useless quotes... ::)

he can't even think for himself.

so sad.



Owned how?  ??? you admitted Dorian has better balance & proportion , everyone agrees Sergio does ( except you lol ) a majority agree Sergio stands alone , again owned how? stop typing bull shit empty claims and long before I posted that quote I always maintained Yates has great balance & proportion and that quote is useless to you because it crushes you utterly and it verifies my original claim which shows I know what I'm talking about and you don't

insult to injury  ;)

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[ Q ] What were some of your better physical qualities as a bodybuilder, do you think?

      Obviously I carried a lot of muscle mass and my trademark was to come into a show in super hard condition. I think my muscles had a certain quality and density from all the years of heavy training that a lot of guys didn't have.


      One thing that I think people underrated me on - it was never really mentioned because of my sheer physical size and condition - was my balance and proportion. Not only from muscle group to muscle group, but from upper body to lower body. My skeletal structure and everything else was there and in good balance.

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Re: Sergio Vs Ronnie - WHO WINS ??
« Reply #244 on: November 15, 2007, 05:43:52 PM »
yeah, his balance and proportion is so bad he only won 8 Mr. Olympia titles, an Arnold Classic title, and more pro wins than anyone else in history..

 ::)

as was mentioned in another thread, ND continues to make a fool out of himself.. :'(

Hulkster against Dorian? NO  ;) against mediocre competition? YES his balance & proportion was shit , it always was thats NOT why he won he won because of size & conditioning , at times his balance & proportion were very good for RONNIE COLEMAN but he never faced ANYONE like Dorian Yates who would match him in size , beat him in conditioning , crush him in balance & proportion , and density didn't have bitch tits knew how to hit a madatory pose , at his best he had his hands full with a ' soft ' Flex a man who Dorian destroyed sorry slick Dorian would walk all over Ronnie.

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Re: Sergio Vs Ronnie - WHO WINS ??
« Reply #245 on: November 15, 2007, 05:44:10 PM »
Ok Coleman comes pretty close to Sergio.


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Re: Sergio Vs Ronnie - WHO WINS ??
« Reply #246 on: November 15, 2007, 05:46:27 PM »
 ;)

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Re: Sergio Vs Ronnie - WHO WINS ??
« Reply #247 on: November 15, 2007, 05:49:51 PM »
just push some weight!

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Re: Sergio Vs Ronnie - WHO WINS ??
« Reply #248 on: November 15, 2007, 05:52:11 PM »
I mean this is as good as it gets

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Re: Sergio Vs Ronnie - WHO WINS ??
« Reply #249 on: November 15, 2007, 06:04:02 PM »
ND,

You have said I think; that Ronnie's arms were too big for
his torso. Do you not think that Sergio's arms are in proportion
to his back which is part of the torso?