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Re: Dow Crash Coming To Your 401K
« Reply #2625 on: June 04, 2011, 12:39:23 PM »
Hahaha, what's the matter, gimmick? Weren't you going to the Alpha board? Or did you finally realize that no one reads your drivel down there?

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Re: Dow crash coming to your 401k..........
« Reply #2626 on: June 05, 2011, 03:43:31 AM »

the main message to getbiggers is:

when you combine a record weak dollar/greenback, the worst housing and credit bust since 1929 with hyperinflation, record gas and oil prices, a tapped out/in debt consumer who today accounts for 70% of our economy, it's bad.


ultimately this will result in a DEEP RECESSION and STAGFLATION. (non-growing economy with high inflation) considered by top economists as the WORST of all possible scenarios.



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Re: Dow Crash Coming To Your 401K
« Reply #2627 on: June 05, 2011, 06:58:02 AM »
Michael Pento: Central Bankruptcy – Why QE3 is Inevitable
By The Daily Ticker | Daily Ticker – Tue, May 31, 2011 6:58 AM EDT


 
The following was published with author's permission.
As the U.S. economy seemingly limps out of the Great Recession most analysts now assume that the Federal Reserve will soon join the tide of other central banks and bring an end to the current era of unprecedented monetary expansion. Markets expect that Fed will begin withdrawing liquidity this summer, not too long after this latest round of the quantitative easing comes to an end. But this is simply a delusion.
There are many political and economic reasons why the Fed will find it extremely difficult to absorb the liquidity that it has relentlessly pumped into the economy since the beginning of the financial crisis. But its biggest problem may be that the ammunition it carries on its balance sheet is insufficient to the task.
In order to withdraw liquidity the Fed must sell most, if not all, of the assets on its balance sheet. The questions are: what types of assets will it sell, how fast will they sell them, who will buy, and what price will the market bear?
In December 2007, before the Great Recession began the Fed had an equity ratio of around 6% on a balance sheet that totaled approximately $900 billion. The assets it held at that time were almost exclusively comprised of short term Treasury debt. This had been the norm for the vast majority of Fed history. Given the size of the Treasury market and the bankability of its short term debt, the value of such a portfolio was considered virtually bulletproof.
But beginning in late 2008, as financial institutions careened towards insolvency, the alphabet soup of Fed lending facilities (TAF, TSLF, PDCF and the CPFF just to name a few) bought all kinds of assets that the Fed never before held. Through quantitative easing efforts alone, Ben Bernanke has added $1.8 trillion of longer term GSE debt and Mortgage Backed Securities (MBS). (In fact, the Fed now holds more of these mortgage instruments than their entire balance sheet before the crash.) This has drastically changed the complexion of the assets it must now sell.
But as the size of the Fed's balance sheet ballooned, the dollar amount of capital held at the Fed has remained fairly constant. Today, the Fed has $52.5 billion of capital backing a $2.7 trillion balance sheet. While the size of the portfolio expanded three fold (and the quality of its assets diminished), the Fed's equity ratio plunged from 6% to just 2%. Prior to the bursting of the credit bubble, the public was shocked to learn that our biggest investment banks were levered 30 to 1. When asset values fell, those banks were quickly wiped out. But now the Fed is holding many of the same types of assets and is levered 51 to 1! If the value of their portfolio were to fall by just 2% the Fed itself would be wiped out.
The Fed acknowledged this insolvency risk on January 6th when it modified its accounting rules to ensure that it never technically runs out of capital. In a system that would make Enron jealous, the new gimmickry allows Fed losses to be booked directly as Treasury liabilities. In other words, just throw it on the deficit pile with the rest of the Federal red ink. But fictional solvency has nothing to do with its ability to successfully withdraw liquidity.
What will happen to the value of the Fed's mortgage assets if rising inflation causes the Fed to sell in haste back to the primary dealers? In an environment of rising interest rates (that such a tightening pre-supposes) the value of the assets should fall. And, given the continued deterioration of the real estate market, there may be a weak market for low yielding mortgage debt.
If these financial institutions were forced to pay par for the Fed's mortgage assets, Bernanke would destroy a great deal of their capital and a new breed of zombie banks would re-emerge. There is certainly no political will in the United States to force the financial industry further into the public sector. If the assets are sold at the fair market price (which will likely be far below what the Fed paid), Bernanke would burn through his balance sheet before all of the prior Fed liquidity injections were neutralized.
Recently some Fed officials announced that they will likely raise interest rates before they sell assets. The truth is that without the ability to fully withdraw prior liquidity the Fed is incapable of significantly raising interest rates. After all, the Fed can't raise rates by fiat. It must sell assets to do so. Similarly, to support the dollar it must take money out of circulation, which is also accomplished by asset sales.
But the Fed's arsenal is no longer stocked with high grade weaponry. Given what is has on hand, the Fed will be unable to raise interest rates and support the currency. In essence, they have become impotent in removing the inflation they have so diligently created.
In the end, any meaningful attempt to withdraw liquidity will not only bankrupt the institution but also zero out their remaining credibility. That's why they'll never even make an honest attempt.
Michael Pento is Senior Economist at Euro Pacific Capital. His daily economic blog "Pentonomics" can be seen on the firm's website.

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Re: Dow Crash coming to your 401k (**Strictly Moderated--SEE FIRST POST**)
« Reply #2628 on: June 06, 2011, 01:16:48 PM »

S&P range 1300-1340

major institutional support resides @ 1300



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S&P broke institutional support @ 1300 today.

continued market weakness w/ momentum to downside. primary uptrend established in 2010 breached.

UNG (natural gas) up 2.51% today. showing strength.

new S&P range 1250-1300.



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Re: Dow crash coming to your 401k..........
« Reply #2629 on: June 07, 2011, 01:18:28 PM »

the main message to fellow getbiggers is:

when you combine a record weak dollar/greenback, the worst housing and credit bust since 1929 with hyperinflation, record gas and oil prices, a tapped out/in debt consumer who today accounts for 70% of our economy, it's bad.


this ultimately will result in a DEEP RECESSION and STAGFLATION. (non-growing economy with high inflation) considered by top economists as the WORST of all possible scenarios.
  


The Economic Perfect Storm That's Killing Consumer Spending

Consumers are struggling. The housing market is in worse shape than ever, and manufacturing is fading. Economic growth is far undershooting the upbeat expectations at the beginning of the year, even as global growth is slowing sharply. Now, amid new signs that job growth is cooling off, the first-quarter’s weakness is extending into the second quarter, and economists are once again ratcheting down their 2011 forecasts. Is the recovery in trouble?

It’s a wave of worry that’s giving investors agita. Stock prices have tanked more than  5 percent since early May, as economic data turned sour, and it looks like  the economy’s woes run deeper than expensive oil and Japanese supply disruptions. The growing fear is that troubles in consumer spending, housing and job creation could limit growth for some time. The fiscal stimulus and monetary support offered by policymakers -- have not resulted in the level of economic growth that would create jobs, and it’s not likely that the government will open its checkbook again anytime soon.
  
Consumers, who are central to solid and sustained growth, are at the heart of the new worries. Their pullback is a big reason why the economy is slowing down, and it’s not just because of high gas prices. Labor markets are not generating income at a rate fast enough to support a healthy pace of spending. The Labor Dept. last week reported that U.S. payrolls increased by a slim 54,000 workers in May, suggesting new hiring caution amid slower growth. Labor also revised March and April job gains downward, and the unemployment rate headed back up, to 9.1 percent last month, from 9 percent in April and 8.8 percent in March.

Read more: http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/Columns/2011/06/06/Economic-Perfect-Storm-Halts-Consumer-Spending.aspx#ixzz1Ocf4Tbc0

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S&P tested resistance @ 1300 and failed, closing @ 1284


range 1250-1300



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Re: Dow Crash Coming To Your 401K
« Reply #2630 on: June 08, 2011, 08:30:35 AM »
Members of Congress Get Abnormally High Returns From Their Stocks


Members of the House of Representatives considerably outperform the stock market in their personal investments, according to a new academic study.

Four university researchers examined 16,000 common stock transactions made by approximately 300 House representatives from 1985 to 2001, and found what they call "significant positive abnormal returns," with portfolios based on congressional trades beating the market by about 6 percent annually.

What's their secret? The report speculates, but does not conclude, it could have something to do with the ability members of Congress have to trade on non-public information or to vote their own pocketbooks -- or both.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/05/24/members-of-congress-get-a_n_866387.html

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Re: Dow Crash Coming To Your 401K
« Reply #2631 on: June 10, 2011, 06:08:09 AM »
S&P range 1250-1300



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Re: Dow Crash coming to your 401k (**Strictly Moderated--SEE FIRST POST**)
« Reply #2632 on: June 11, 2011, 02:55:52 AM »

S&P broke institutional support @ 1300.


continued market weakness w/ momentum to downside. primary uptrend established in 2010 breached.  


S&P range 1250-1300.



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Dow down 172 points. S&P closed lower @ 1270

range 1250-1300




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Re: Dow Crash coming to your 401k (**Strictly Moderated--SEE FIRST POST**)
« Reply #2633 on: June 11, 2011, 05:41:32 AM »

QE2 (600 Billion Dollars) was utilized to prop up both the stock & bond markets. all this ends later this month. (June)

with the Fed unable to prop markets, i anticipate stocks heading lower.

the secular bear market rally (since march 2009) was built primarily on printed fiat money.

exercise extreme caution moving forward.



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Re: Dow Crash Coming To Your 401K
« Reply #2634 on: June 13, 2011, 06:06:19 AM »
as we approach S&P 1250 area (institutional support) watch for a short cover/ bear market rally.



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Re: Dow Crash Coming To Your 401K
« Reply #2635 on: June 13, 2011, 01:22:03 PM »
S&P closed flat @ 1271 today.

any breakdown below 1270... high probability we test 1250 support. (200sma)

range 1250-1300



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Re: Dow Crash Coming To Your 401K
« Reply #2636 on: June 14, 2011, 03:46:47 AM »
Larry Summers: The American Economy is Sick


06/13/11 03:24 PM ET
NEW YORK -- Safely removed from the Obama White House, where he was a prime architect of economic policy, Larry Summers now tells us what most regular people have known for too long: The economy is ailing and in grave need of help.


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/06/13/larry-summers-economy-is-sick_n_876106.html?icid=main%7Chtmlws-main-n%7Cdl1%7Csec3_lnk3%7C215930




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Re: Dow Crash Coming To Your 401K
« Reply #2637 on: June 14, 2011, 04:20:45 AM »

as we approach S&P 1250 area (institutional support) watch for a short cover/ bear market rally.



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Re: Dow Crash Coming To Your 401K
« Reply #2638 on: June 14, 2011, 06:01:24 AM »
Larry Summers: The American Economy is Sick


06/13/11 03:24 PM ET
NEW YORK -- Safely removed from the Obama White House, where he was a prime architect of economic policy, Larry Summers now tells us what most regular people have known for too long: The economy is ailing and in grave need of help.


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/06/13/larry-summers-economy-is-sick_n_876106.html?icid=main%7Chtmlws-main-n%7Cdl1%7Csec3_lnk3%7C215930





Help? From who? The same idiots that fucked everything up?

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Re: Dow Crash coming to your 401k (**Strictly Moderated--SEE FIRST POST**)
« Reply #2639 on: June 15, 2011, 05:53:38 AM »






QE2 (600 Billion Dollars) was utilized to prop up both the stock & bond markets. all this ends later this month. (June)

with the Fed unable to prop markets, i anticipate stocks heading lower.

the secular bear market rally (since march 2009) was built primarily on printed fiat money.

exercise extreme caution moving forward.






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Re: Dow Crash Coming To Your 401K
« Reply #2640 on: June 15, 2011, 10:02:32 AM »


any breakdown below 1270... high probability we test 1250 support. (200sma)

range 1250-1300



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Re: Dow Crash Coming To Your 401K
« Reply #2641 on: June 15, 2011, 01:34:33 PM »
U.S. Stocks Fall on Slow Recovery, Greece

Jun 15, 2011 4:12 PM ET
U.S. stocks sank the most in two weeks, threatening to erase the 2011 gain for the Standard & Poor’s 500 Index, and the euro slid the most in more than a month amid rising concern that Greece will default and evidence that the American economy is slowing. Treasuries rallied.

The Standard & Poor’s 500 Index fell 1.7 percent to a three-month low of 1,265.42 at 4 p.m. in New York, trimming its year-to-date gain to 0.6 percent.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-06-15/euro-falls-amid-eu-deadlock-over-greek-crisis-aussie-oil-drop.html
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Dow down -179 points. S&P lower by -22.00, closing @ 1265

range 1250-1300


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Re: Dow Crash Coming To Your 401K
« Reply #2642 on: June 23, 2011, 03:03:37 AM »

as we approach S&P 1250 area (institutional support) watch for a short cover/ bear market rally.



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as noted 1250 acted as support w/ anticipated short cover rally.

holding the 200sma is crucial. if not we head much lower.

25sma (1300) should act as resistance to the upside.

range 1260-1300




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Re: Dow Crash Coming To Your 401K
« Reply #2643 on: June 23, 2011, 01:48:57 PM »
thank you neuro. Good stuff as usual...

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Re: Dow Crash Coming To Your 401K
« Reply #2644 on: June 24, 2011, 08:04:26 AM »
when the S&P finally breaks 1260 (200sma) expect a HUGE sell off.

unless QE3 is established, a weak Fed. propped Market has no recourse but to head LOWER.

the secular Bear Market rally that began in March 2009 has absolutely no foundation.


with the market extremely oversold, i anticipate a Bear Market rally in the very near future.
 

exercise caution.

range 1260-1300





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Re: Dow Crash Coming To Your 401K
« Reply #2645 on: June 24, 2011, 01:27:47 PM »
U.S. Stocks Slump as Oracle Retreats


Jun 24, 2011 4:04 PM ET  
U.S. stocks retreated, sending the Standard & Poor’s 500 Index lower for a third straight day, as concern about the European debt crisis intensified and Oracle Corp. (ORCL) dragged down technology shares.


http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-06-24/u-s-stock-futures-advance-on-goods-hopes-accenture-gains-as-oracle-slips.html


^^
noise and excuses. ignore it.

just follow money flow.

range 1260-1300



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Re: Dow Crash Coming To Your 401K
« Reply #2646 on: June 24, 2011, 01:33:49 PM »
thank you neuro. Good stuff as usual...

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Re: Dow Crash Coming To Your 401K
« Reply #2647 on: June 27, 2011, 03:02:50 AM »
the Gauntlet is set @ 1260.

if breached, prepare for a LONG painful sell off.



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Re: Dow Crash Coming To Your 401K
« Reply #2648 on: July 01, 2011, 01:00:04 PM »
The stock market will fluctuate.  Mark my words!

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July 1, 2011: 3:39 PM ET

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Re: Dow Crash Coming To Your 401K
« Reply #2649 on: July 02, 2011, 12:05:46 PM »
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Stocks on track for best 1-week gain in two years

July 1, 2011: 3:39 PM ET

NEW YORK (CNNMoney) -- Stocks started the second half of the year firing on all cylinders Friday, on track to post the strongest week in two years



http://money.cnn.com/2011/07/01/markets/markets_newyork/index.htm?hpt=hp_t2



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