Manion Says Disloyalty to the IFBB is Like Cheating on your Wife!!!

[Benito Mutumbo]

This isn't cheating on your wife...nor is it a fraternity.  Let's call it what it really is.  A thin-skinned supposedly professional sports body.  Is this Scientology or the IFBB?

But if we want to stay with the 'cheating on your wife' angle.  Ok..  Let's also add that the wife was a nutjob that took 99% of your paycheck....and made you drive the K-car while she drove around town in the BMW that she paid for out of your wages..  The bitch ate steak while you had to go beg for crumbs from old rich dudes.

Fraternity?  Give me a break.  Terrible analogy..

[canadaphiliac]

...Bob, no disrespect, but those kind of contracts were made void by the Emancipation Declaration.

Slavery is illegal in all civilized countries, and NO court would enforce such a contract.


The Luke

The Emancipation Declaration? LOL WUT?

[Tre]

For a contract to be valid, there must be consideration (i.e. money)... it's an essential element of a contract.

Exactly.

That's why it's so laughable when the guys around here start shouting "Lee signed the contract, Lee signed the contract!"

[GHGut]

Actually, you're wrong...by signing the "contract" which allows you to be a IFBB pro, you agree to oblige the rules set forth...the main one, that you cannot compete in any other federation.

BTW..."the money" IS in the IFBB.

Commandment #1 (there are 10): "I am the Lord thy God; ye shall have no others gods besides me."

[titusisback]

...by signing the "contract"

can this "contract" be seen somewhere? Just curious... thanks

[The Freakshow]

If you belong to one fraternity in college, and you go to another one, and while you are there, talk crap about your old fraternity, and then later on you decide you want to come back, you will find it very hard to do so.

Ron, are reminiscing about the "Good Ole Fraternity Days"

[G o a t b o y]

For example: If Ron Avidon wanted to establish a rule that if anyone posts on MuscleMayhem, they wil be banned from Getbig.  There is no stopping Ron from doing that.  As long as he discloses the rule upon registration, he is free to create any rules he chooses.  And, along the same lines, we are all free to choose not to register here. 

There's a big difference.  None of us here is making our living by posting on internet boards, and Getbig is not running a monopoly on professional internet board posting.

[Armstrong]

There's a big difference.  None of us here is making our living by posting on internet boards, and Getbig is not running a monopoly on professional internet board posting.

Thats actually not true.  Shawnn Ray gets paid to be a professional message board poster. He even signed an exclusive message board contract   

[Purge_WTF]

Actually, you're wrong...by signing the "contract" which allows you to be a IFBB pro, you agree to oblige the rules set forth...the main one, that you cannot compete in any other federation.

BTW..."the money" IS in the IFBB.

  Could you possibly be any more of a Weider-whore?

[Chick]

  Could you possibly be any more of a Weider-whore?

One has nothing to do with the other.....

It is what it is...no one is forced into it, and by and large, there have been many who have benefitted greatly and been able to make a living from pro BB...all by way of being a member in the IFBB. In case you havent noticed...there have been many other federations around for many years, none of which have ever offered anything remotely close to the opportunities the IFBB has.

I do all I can to make it more profitable and fair to the athletes....while I am pleased with the progress that's been made, I'm still working on behalf of the athletes to make it even better.

[Cleanest Natural]

TEN OTHER WAYS THE IFBB IS JUST LIKE YOUR WIFE

1. You shell out money every year for "membership" and get nothing in return.
2. You often think how much happier you'd be without them.
3. They nag you a lot over stupid, insignificant things.
4. If they catch you even looking at another organization, you're in deep doo-doo.
5. They ask you for your opinion and then punish you for expressing it.
6. If you don't kiss their ass every second of the day, they make your life miserable.
7. They'd rather you f*ck a grapefruit or swing your dick in a guy's face than kiss another girl.
8. They make up the rules as they go along.
9. They only forgive you for cheating if you buy them $50,000 in jewelry.
10. They refuse to let you f*ck them in their ass.

I got this as your best list to date

[The.Giant]

I do all I can to make it more profitable and fair to the athletes....while I am pleased with the progress that's been made, I'm still working on behalf of the athletes to make it even better.

How is fining them and imposing late penalties making it more profitable and fair to the athletes? Explain that, suit.

You guys need a players association, like REAL sports have.

[New Hank Wood]

I admire Manion and his tough stance!

Priest is professionally dead and buried. 

Thank Christ we have heard the last of his snivelling and bitching about the IFBB.

[ja351]

Actually, you're wrong...by signing the "contract" which allows you to be a IFBB pro, you agree to oblige the rules set forth...the main one, that you cannot compete in any other federation.

BTW..."the money" IS in the IFBB.

I missed the part in the rule book where it says that this is the main rule, can you point out where it is said??

[Trev]

A contract is a contract. If you sign it you've gotta abide by it. HOWEVER - The IFBB needs the athletes, so the athletes COULD exercise power by acting together to get things changed. They sacrifice a hell of a lot to try and earn a crust, they should be allowed to earn money wherever they can, particularly when they are being screwed out of prize money by politics. Up to them to come together and create a force to be reckoned with !!!

[New Hank Wood]

For  Christ sake, this debate has been 'done to death'!  Get over it!

Manion is a cunning business man.  You do not cross him!  Priest tried, and his career ended in a heart-beat!

Thank Christ the IFBB has the likes of Manion.  And yes, thank Christ he put Priest on the bodybuilding 'scrap heap'!

Not hating, just my opinion.

Peace.

[Cleanest Natural]

For  Christ sake, this debate has been 'done to death'!  Get over it!

Manion is a cunning business man.  You do not cross him!  Priest tried, and his career ended in a heart-beat!

Thank Christ the IFBB has the likes of Manion.  And yes, thank Christ he put Priest on the bodybuilding 'scrap heap'!

Not hating, just my opinion.

Peace.

yOU ARE HATING ! I'm smelling jealousy.

[Meso_z]

For a contract to be valid, there must be consideration (i.e. money)... it's an essential element of a contract.  "The possibility that you might make some money" doesn't count.  In a real employment contract, the employee is being paid, thus consideration is present.

If Manion wants to start paying these guys a salary, no one in the world would have a problem with an exclusivity clause.  But to demand exclusivity without payment is tantamount to slavery.

Good point here....

[bigdumbbell]

in other international cultures having more than 1 wife is perfectly legal 

[emn1964]

For a contract to be valid, there must be consideration (i.e. money)... it's an essential element of a contract.  "The possibility that you might make some money" doesn't count.  In a real employment contract, the employee is being paid, thus consideration is present.

If Manion wants to start paying these guys a salary, no one in the world would have a problem with an exclusivity clause.  But to demand exclusivity without payment is tantamount to slavery.

Ok Justice Brennan   Hahahahaha...internet lawyers.  Consideration can take many forms.  Money need not be involved.  Courts have held that consideration can be the oppotunity to make money, which is exactly what the IFBB is giving these guys.

[Chick]

How is fining them and imposing late penalties making it more profitable and fair to the athletes? Explain that, suit.

You guys need a players association, like REAL sports have.

It makes it run like a professional organization, which it hasen't been.

It makes the athletes responsible and accountable.

It makes it possible for the promoters to have access to a list of athletes that commit to their show, and PROMOTE...which in turn, will help put more MONEY in the athletes pockets...

[littleguns]

Bodybuilding is like wrestling..no union

and if you don't like things...there are 5 more ppl waiting for your spot!

[Brutal_1]

TEN OTHER WAYS THE IFBB IS JUST LIKE YOUR WIFE

1. You shell out money every year for "membership" and get nothing in return.
2. You often think how much happier you'd be without them.
3. They nag you a lot over stupid, insignificant things.
4. If they catch you even looking at another organization, you're in deep doo-doo.
5. They ask you for your opinion and then punish you for expressing it.
6. If you don't kiss their ass every second of the day, they make your life miserable.
7. They'd rather you f*ck a grapefruit or swing your dick in a guy's face than kiss another girl.
8. They make up the rules as they go along.
9. They only forgive you for cheating if you buy them $50,000 in jewelry.
10. They refuse to let you f*ck them in their ass.

The top three...which pretty much sums it up.

[The.Giant]

It makes it run like a professional organization, which it hasen't been.

It makes the athletes responsible and accountable.

It makes it possible for the promoters to have access to a list of athletes that commit to their show, and PROMOTE...which in turn, will help put more MONEY in the athletes pockets...

Valid points, suit. I still think you guys would benefit from a "players association".

[Chick]

Of course we would....but the plaers werent interested in having one.

BTW...I'm not a "suit".