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Author Topic: Manion Says Disloyalty to the IFBB is Like Cheating on your Wife!!!  (Read 13963 times)
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« on: November 13, 2007, 07:16:26 AM »

Listening to the Manion interview on Pro Bodybuilding Radio.  When they asked him about why loyalty is so important to the IFBB, Manion said that its like if you leave your wife for a year, talk trash about her, and go sleep with other women.  Can you really expect your wife to take you back a year later if you want to come home?    This dont sound too good for Priest.


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« Reply #1 on: November 13, 2007, 07:24:19 AM »


Remarks like that just show how much the ifbb is more like a cult than an actual "sports organization"  Roll Eyes

Keep bodybuilding in the closet!  They're doing a good job of it...  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #2 on: November 13, 2007, 07:38:52 AM »

Wow... I thought Manion was smarter than that..

So what about Sami.. His woman (the PDI) died so can he come to the IFBB for some love??
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« Reply #3 on: November 13, 2007, 07:58:33 AM »


Remarks like that just show how much the ifbb is more like a cult than an actual "sports organization"  Roll Eyes


Exactly.  My question for Manion was, "In any other sport, when your suspension is over you get to play again, without having to grovel or kiss up or anything...  what makes bodybuilding different?"   

I'm begining to think that musclemissions.com whack-job isn't too far off about the IFBB being a cult.
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« Reply #4 on: November 13, 2007, 09:51:38 AM »

TEN OTHER WAYS THE IFBB IS JUST LIKE YOUR WIFE

1. You shell out money every year for "membership" and get nothing in return.
2. You often think how much happier you'd be without them.
3. They nag you a lot over stupid, insignificant things.
4. If they catch you even looking at another organization, you're in deep doo-doo.
5. They ask you for your opinion and then punish you for expressing it.
6. If you don't kiss their ass every second of the day, they make your life miserable.
7. They'd rather you f*ck a grapefruit or swing your dick in a guy's face than kiss another girl.
8. They make up the rules as they go along.
9. They only forgive you for cheating if you buy them $50,000 in jewelry.
10. They refuse to let you f*ck them in their ass.
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« Reply #5 on: November 13, 2007, 09:54:58 AM »

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« Reply #6 on: November 13, 2007, 04:42:41 PM »


"Disloyalty to the IFBB is Like Cheating on your Wife"

Ah, so two-thirds of the people are doing it.   Wink
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« Reply #7 on: November 13, 2007, 04:43:16 PM »

At the IFBB meeting, Lee's reinstatement was rejected.  Bob petitioned for him & lost.  
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« Reply #8 on: November 13, 2007, 05:03:22 PM »

This guy REALLY needs to rethink his priorities, What a Jackass.

I wonder what Betty Weider would think of this Idiot


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« Reply #9 on: November 13, 2007, 05:08:54 PM »

Listening to the Manion interview on Pro Bodybuilding Radio.  When they asked him about why loyalty is so important to the IFBB, Manion said that its like if you leave your wife for a year, talk trash about her, and go sleep with other women.  Can you really expect your wife to take you back a year later if you want to come home?    This dont sound too good for Priest.

Manion has his head up his butt, these guys have no obligation to the IFBB unless they are under contract, but most of these guys are self-contracted and should be able to go where.....*cough cough*....the money is!
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« Reply #10 on: November 13, 2007, 05:24:32 PM »

Manion has his head up his butt, these guys have no obligation to the IFBB unless they are under contract, but most of these guys are self-contracted and should be able to go where.....*cough cough*....the money is!
Actually, you're wrong...by signing the "contract" which allows you to be a IFBB pro, you agree to oblige the rules set forth...the main one, that you cannot compete in any other federation.

BTW..."the money" IS in the IFBB.
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« Reply #11 on: November 13, 2007, 05:30:10 PM »

Actually, you're wrong...by signing the "contract" which allows you to be a IFBB pro, you agree to oblige the rules set forth...the main one, that you cannot compete in any other federation.

BTW..."the money" IS in the IFBB.

...Bob, no disrespect, but those kind of contracts were made void by the Emancipation Declaration.

Slavery is illegal in all civilized countries, and NO court would enforce such a contract.


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« Reply #12 on: November 13, 2007, 06:01:58 PM »

...Bob, no disrespect, but those kind of contracts were made void by the Emancipation Declaration.

Slavery is illegal in all civilized countries, and NO court would enforce such a contract.


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You're wrong.  That's a basic non-compete clause and is found in many types of employment and IC contracts.  Courts readily enforce them.
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« Reply #13 on: November 13, 2007, 06:24:51 PM »

Sorry, no compete clauses are when you are PAID to be under contract. 
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« Reply #14 on: November 13, 2007, 06:30:29 PM »

You're wrong.  That's a basic non-compete clause and is found in many types of employment and IC contracts.  Courts readily enforce them.


For a contract to be valid, there must be consideration (i.e. money)... it's an essential element of a contract.  "The possibility that you might make some money" doesn't count.  In a real employment contract, the employee is being paid, thus consideration is present.

If Manion wants to start paying these guys a salary, no one in the world would have a problem with an exclusivity clause.  But to demand exclusivity without payment is tantamount to slavery.
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« Reply #15 on: November 13, 2007, 06:32:04 PM »

The IFBB must be a slut wife then.  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #16 on: November 13, 2007, 06:57:31 PM »


But to demand exclusivity without payment is tantamount to slavery.

I dont agree.  Nobody is forced to sign an IFBB contract.  It is a completely optional choice.  You either sign, or you don't.  The choice is there for each athlete to decide.  Nobody is forced to sign on with the IFBB.  Its up to each person to weigh the pros and cons.  For example: If Ron Avidon wanted to establish a rule that if anyone posts on MuscleMayhem, they wil be banned from Getbig.  There is no stopping Ron from doing that.  As long as he discloses the rule upon registration, he is free to create any rules he chooses.  And, along the same lines, we are all free to choose not to register here. 

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« Reply #17 on: November 13, 2007, 07:06:43 PM »

I dont agree.  Nobody is forced to sign an IFBB contract.  It is a completely optional choice.  You either sign, or you don't.  The choice is there for each athlete to decide.  Nobody is forced to sign on with the IFBB.  Its up to each person to weigh the pros and cons.   For example: If Ron Avidon wanted to establish a rule that if anyone posts on MuscleMayhem, they wil be banned from Getbig.  There is no stopping Ron from doing that.  As long as he discloses the rule upon registration, he is free to create any rules he chooses.  And, along the same lines, we are all free to choose not to register here. 



Well said...exactly what I was going to respond.
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« Reply #18 on: November 13, 2007, 07:09:09 PM »

I dont agree.  Nobody is forced to sign an IFBB contract.  It is a completely optional choice.  You either sign, or you don't.  The choice is there for each athlete to decide.  Nobody is forced to sign on with the IFBB.  Its up to each person to weigh the pros and cons.  For example: If Ron Avidon wanted to establish a rule that if anyone posts on MuscleMayhem, they wil be banned from Getbig.  There is no stopping Ron from doing that.  As long as he discloses the rule upon registration, he is free to create any rules he chooses.  And, along the same lines, we are all free to choose not to register here. 



The contract is for 1 year so each year you have to renew the contract, if Lee would wait till his contract expired than go to PDI? would be no problem.

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« Reply #19 on: November 13, 2007, 07:28:15 PM »


We have had this analogy many times over. If you belong to one fraternity in college, and you go to another one, and while you are there, talk crap about your old fraternity, and then later on you decide you want to come back, you will find it very hard to do so.

As for the IFBB, each individual decides if he wants to compete there or not. As long as they are in good standing with the organization. They choose to compete, they don't have to.
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« Reply #20 on: November 13, 2007, 07:50:07 PM »

We have had this analogy many times over. If you belong to one fraternity in college, and you go to another one, and while you are there, talk crap about your old fraternity, and then later on you decide you want to come back, you will find it very hard to do so.

As for the IFBB, each individual decides if he wants to compete there or not. As long as they are in good standing with the organization. They choose to compete, they don't have to.

I agree completely with this, Ron.

What I disagree with is this - why would they tell him they'll suspend him for one year, but he has to quit the PDI, but *THEN* tell him it's a lifetime ban?

If they would have just said "Lee, you are never coming back to the IFBB", that would have been fine.  Instead, they gave him a 1-year ban on the condition he leave Wayne DeMilia, which he certainly then did.

It looks to me like they screwed him over - getting him to diss PDI live, then growing the suspension from 1 year, to forever.



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« Reply #21 on: November 13, 2007, 07:55:28 PM »


To cheat on your wife is to break Godís law.

Neither shalt thou commit adultery. - Deuteronomy 5:18 (KJV)

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« Reply #22 on: November 13, 2007, 07:56:19 PM »

BTW..."the money" IS in for the IFBB.

Proposal 5
A proposal from Bob Cicherillo that athletes be required to have a written contract, signed and approved, no later than 8 weeks prior to the date of the competition.

Proposal Adopted With Modification

[Modification: Athletes will be required to have a written contract postmarked no later than 6 weeks prior to the date of the competition. Contracts received after the due date will be subject to a US $500 late fee to the promoter.]

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Proposal 8
A proposal from Bob Cicherillo that all IFBB Pro League cards will be renewed by annually by January 1st. Any card renewed after this deadline, and before February 1st, will have an additional US $100 fee attached. Renewals received after February 28th will be doubled, based on the original cost.

Proposal Adopted With Modification

[Modification: All IFBB Pro League cards will be renewed (postmarked) annually by January 15th. Any card renewed after this date will cost the athlete US $400.]
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« Reply #23 on: November 13, 2007, 07:57:40 PM »

I dont agree.  Nobody is forced to sign an IFBB contract.  It is a completely optional choice.  You either sign, or you don't.  The choice is there for each athlete to decide.  Nobody is forced to sign on with the IFBB.  Its up to each person to weigh the pros and cons.  For example: If Ron Avidon wanted to establish a rule that if anyone posts on MuscleMayhem, they wil be banned from Getbig.  There is no stopping Ron from doing that.  As long as he discloses the rule upon registration, he is free to create any rules he chooses.  And, along the same lines, we are all free to choose not to register here. 

What is the stated mission of the IFBB?

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« Reply #24 on: November 13, 2007, 07:58:44 PM »

Another pointless analogy. Perhaps there was a 'divorce' (ie. contract expired) and then it's not cheating. Smiley
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