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Re: BARRY BONDS INDICTED!!!
« Reply #25 on: November 15, 2007, 04:18:04 PM »
OWNING OF THE DAY!
Dude seriously just stop while your behind.  There is NO POINT your EVER gonna make to me about making a controlled substance LEGAL for my kid to come accross.....

Ignore him:)  Steroids in sports aren't cool, but spending billions of money on trying to regulate shit that CANT be regulated is even more dumb...

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Re: BARRY BONDS INDICTED!!!
« Reply #26 on: November 15, 2007, 04:20:04 PM »
drug addiction is a health issue, not a criminal issue.  treat it that way and you have a better chance of getting it under control.

if you can only get it from a pharmacy, and you can only get one month's supply per month, you can still sell it to a single person.  but that is much different that the local drug dealer selling it to hundreds.

EXACTLY.

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« Reply #27 on: November 15, 2007, 04:22:14 PM »
Sports organizations, being private organizations, can set any rules they want for their members.  If they want to require drugs tests, that's ok.   But the government should not be involved.  Since I am not on any amateur or professional sports teams, I should have the freedom to use anabolic steroids.

I already have the right to use corticosteroids for performance enhancing purposes, as do every pro athlete in the world, and they're much harsher on the body than are anabolic steroids.

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« Reply #28 on: November 15, 2007, 04:26:23 PM »
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I will never understand why some of you people believe that steroids should be completely legal.  It's mind-boggling, honestly.
It should be available through sports clinics and doctor's office's, under supervision and controlled with frequent blood tests.
Doctors can control the side effects.

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« Reply #29 on: November 15, 2007, 04:26:42 PM »
Actually, you don't have the freedom to use them.  You are breaking the law buying them.  If you are going to live in a country you should respect it's laws.  If you want to use illegal drugs freely (deemed illegal by the government in the country in which you choose to live in) then you need to move to a country where it's legal.

Pretty simple.

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Re: BARRY BONDS INDICTED!!!
« Reply #30 on: November 15, 2007, 04:29:24 PM »
Sports organizations, being private organizations, can set any rules they want for their members.  If they want to require drugs tests, that's ok.   But the government should not be involved.  Since I am not on any amateur or professional sports teams, I should have the freedom to use anabolic steroids.

I already have the right to use corticosteroids for performance enhancing purposes, as do every pro athlete in the world, and they're much harsher on the body than are anabolic steroids.



You have the right to do whatever you want that does not make it right when it is ILLEGAL!

Does the term "EVEN PLAYING FIELD" mean anything to you?  These guys are using drugs to better there performance and MAKE MORE MONEY!!  

LEt me repeat that and let it sink in some.  MAKE MORE MONEY, they perform better they get MORE PAY, BUT THEY ARE USING CONTROLLED SUBSTANCES TO DO THIS.  

HOW IN THE HELL ARE YOU GONNA CONVINCE ME OR ANYONE that this is right?

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Re: BARRY BONDS INDICTED!!!
« Reply #31 on: November 15, 2007, 04:30:29 PM »
Actually, you don't have the freedom to use them.  You are breaking the law buying them.

yes.  I wrote 'should have the freedom'.   

btw, anabolic steroids only became controlled substances in the US in 1991

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« Reply #32 on: November 15, 2007, 04:31:57 PM »
yes.  I wrote 'should have the freedom'.   

btw, anabolic steroids only became controlled substances in the US in 1991

OHHHH OK so before 1991 it's ok,

bahahahahaha!!!

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Re: BARRY BONDS INDICTED!!!
« Reply #33 on: November 15, 2007, 04:34:18 PM »
Tim, if you think steroids aren't addictive you're a moron (not a chemical dependence but a mental one).

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Re: BARRY BONDS INDICTED!!!
« Reply #34 on: November 15, 2007, 04:35:49 PM »
You have the right to do whatever you want that does not make it right when it is ILLEGAL!

if it is illegal, then you don't have the right to do it

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Does the term "EVEN PLAYING FIELD" mean anything to you?  These guys are using drugs to better there performance and MAKE MORE MONEY!! 

My example above:  corticosteroids, that is cortisone injections.   it enhances athletic performance.   every pro athlete, baseball, football, tennis, golf, basketball, every pro sport, has used it.   Perfectly legal performance enhancing drug.   

another example, laser eye surgery.  many athletes with 20/20 vision have gotten it to improve their vision to 20/15.  Great advantage for baseball pitchers, golfers, and tennis players.

but like I said, sports organizations can set any rules they want.  they can determine what is a level playing field.  but the government shouldn't be involved.

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Re: BARRY BONDS INDICTED!!!
« Reply #35 on: November 15, 2007, 04:36:12 PM »
The steroid control act effectively removed the medical supervision, and so in the last 16 years you have uninformed guys injecting blindly (you have to have the blood tests, because you have to judge by serum values, not by dose alone) and no ancillaries to control sides.  Therefore the big rise in bodybuilders with big health problems.

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« Reply #36 on: November 15, 2007, 04:37:30 PM »
hahahhahaa, people are hypocrites, let the home runs go down to 25-30 year with no huge tape measure shots, no 101 MPH fastballs, no more ripped up bodies and see how the fans react. ::)

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« Reply #37 on: November 15, 2007, 04:38:38 PM »
OHHHH OK so before 1991 it's ok,

yes, legally it was.  and lots of pro athletes were using them.   The Olympics didn't ban them until 1976.  Lots of Olympic athletes were using them throughout the 1950s, 1960s, and early 1970s.   We should put asterisks next to all their names.

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« Reply #38 on: November 15, 2007, 04:41:03 PM »
It's good to know that there are people watching over sports who at least have some ethics.

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« Reply #39 on: November 15, 2007, 04:42:53 PM »
hahahhahaa, people are hypocrites, let the home runs go down to 25-30 year with no huge tape measure shots, no 101 MPH fastballs, no more ripped up bodies and see how the fans react. ::)

hahah people were chanting for more dingers in 98 with Sosa and Big Man and when it came out they might have used you would of thought they were child molestors. People were thanking them for "saving the game"

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« Reply #40 on: November 15, 2007, 04:43:56 PM »
It's good to know that there are people watching over sports who at least have some ethics.
hahahhaa, yeah as opposed to actually supporting the 135,000 men and women who this farce of a government has put in deaths way for a "war" with a made up enemy for made up reasons or maybe actually stopping the hundreds of thousands of illegal mexicans pouring across our borders every year unchecked. ::)

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« Reply #41 on: November 15, 2007, 04:48:05 PM »
hahahhaa, yeah as opposed to actually supporting the 135,000 men and women who this farce of a government has put in deaths way for a "war" with a made up enemy for made up reasons or maybe actually stopping the hundreds of thousands of illegal mexicans pouring across our borders every year unchecked. ::)

Epic ANTI BUSH MELTDOWN!!!

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« Reply #42 on: November 15, 2007, 04:49:16 PM »
Epic ANTI BUSH MELTDOWN!!!
hahahaha, how could anyone actually support him?

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Re: BARRY BONDS INDICTED!!!
« Reply #43 on: November 15, 2007, 04:52:58 PM »
What a joke.
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« Reply #44 on: November 15, 2007, 04:54:25 PM »
hahahhaa, yeah as opposed to actually supporting the 135,000 men and women who this farce of a government has put in deaths way for a "war" with a made up enemy for made up reasons or maybe actually stopping the hundreds of thousands of illegal mexicans pouring across our borders every year unchecked. ::)

Don't tell me you're voting for Ron Paul??  :-X

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Re: BARRY BONDS INDICTED!!!
« Reply #45 on: November 15, 2007, 04:55:32 PM »
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hahahhahaa, people are hypocrites, let the home runs go down to 25-30 year with no huge tape measure shots, no 101 MPH fastballs, no more ripped up bodies and see how the fans react

       Mickey Mantle hit 500 foot homeruns, 50+ HRs, was ripped and pitchers back then threw 100+-and nobody was juiced.

       Baseball is ruining the game with a juiced ball and juiced players.  Statistics and records were a big part of the game, by turning it into XBox for short term $$$$ is really stupid.

         It makes about as much sense as NAFTA.

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« Reply #46 on: November 15, 2007, 04:56:05 PM »
What a joke.
just be glad Tommy, i mean that scary threat to all of our security Barry Bonds is gonna get locked up, the world will be a safer place, just think of all those guys floating around on rafts outside of San Fran's ballpark who won't be hit by his homerun balls. :D

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« Reply #47 on: November 15, 2007, 04:56:50 PM »
Don't tell me you're voting for Ron Paul??  :-X
no, they're all a joke to me at this point.

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« Reply #48 on: November 15, 2007, 04:58:10 PM »
       Mickey Mantle hit 500 foot homeruns, 50+ HRs, was ripped and pitchers back then threw 100+-and nobody was juiced.

in the 1960s and 1970s, we now know many pitchers were using amphetamines on game day.

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Re: BARRY BONDS INDICTED!!!
« Reply #49 on: November 15, 2007, 05:03:19 PM »
OWNING OF THE DAY!
Dude seriously just stop while your behind.  There is NO POINT your EVER gonna make to me about making a controlled substance LEGAL for my kid to come accross.....

Legalizing drugs has been proposed by several economists.. Like Milton Friedman. It would ease the tax burden, decrease the prison population, lower the crime rate, and many other things.


And I agree with Squad, wtf are they doing? Why waste tax money on that asshole? Let the MLB deal with it.  ::)