Dorian -three weeks out: 1993

[Vince B]

Have a look at those calves!! Where are Ronnie's calves?

[NarcissisticDeity]

Have a look at those calves!! Where are Ronnie's calves?

Right here !

[delta9mda]

Have a look at those calves!! Where are Ronnie's calves?

ronnie aint got none!

[bizzy]

No monsters for sure but much more in proportion
with the rest of his physique @ a lighter bodyweight.

[NarcissisticDeity]

No monsters for sure but much more in proportion
with the rest of his physique @ a lighter bodyweight.

No they're not his calves looks more in proportion with his quads at the ASC for him still sucked and not even close in 99 Olympia sorry , quads were oversized in 99 and made his calves look tiny ontop of just sucking period , no diamond shape no separation or detail of the gastrocnemius inner & outter heads

[NarcissisticDeity]

Toothpicks

[bizzy]

You have a great skill @ posting the worst pics you can find.
How's this one from the new vid of Yates where his left arm
looks very small. (Is this a true representation of his actual arm size?

[NarcissisticDeity]

You have a great skill @ posting the worst pics you can find.
How's this one from the new vid of Yates where his left arm
looks very small. (Is this a true representation of his actual arm size?

Thats the worst pic I could find? my ass you guys were posting that on the truce thread and ohhh and ahhhing how great it was and now its the worst pic lol  and you can't escape the fact that no matter if Ronnie's balance was good for HIM it was NEVER in the league of Dorian Yates

[bizzy]

I'm not referring to the muscletime pic although I wouldn't
ever use it. (I know they did on the Truce thread.)
I've never seen the other pics from 99 though.

[slayer]

ohhh jeez ronnie could not shine dorians shoes in 93! oh myyyy his calves carry muscle then both of ronnies put together hahaha !

no contest, lucky for ronnie dorian came 10 yrs before him!


ronnie should have never been mr o with those toothpics , pathetic!

[Hulkster]

ohhh jeez ronnie could not shine dorians shoes in 93! oh myyyy his calves carry muscle then both of ronnies put together hahaha !

no contest, lucky for ronnie dorian came 10 yrs before him!


ronnie should have never been mr o with those toothpics , pathetic!

lol 

if that is your attitude, dorian should never had won the olympia with arms/upper body this bad:

[slayer]

ronnies build looks stupid in that pic, so out of proportion !

[slayer]

lol 

if that is your attitude, dorian should never had won the olympia with arms/upper body this bad:

agreed, but dorian had yrs that ronnie will never touch!

[Hulkster]

its all comes down to personal preference:

Bodybuilder? or Bricklayer?

 

[NarcissisticDeity]

its all comes down to personal preference:

Bodybuilder? or Bricklayer?

 

Wow Hulkster showing his ignorance ( again ) NO it all comes down to who meets the criteria better , you'd know this if you knew anything about how competitive bodybuilding contests are judged

Muscular Bulk - Dorian 269 pounds - Ronnie 244 pounds - clear advantage to Dorian
Muscular Balance ( and proportion ) - Another clear advantage for Dorian
Conditioning - Dorian's conditioning is legendary although Ronnie 2001 ASC may be close enough to push
Density - Dorian although Ronnie 2001 may have came close albeit much lighter - advantage 269 pound Dorian
Completeness - Clear advantage for Dorian
Posing - Clear advantage to Dorian

add all that up and watch Dorian CRUSH little Ronnie with ease , Yates to many advantages and no flaws .

Ronnie & Hulkster owned

Class dismissed . 

[Hulkster]

muscular bulk is not an advantage when your muscles have the piss poor ugly shape that dorian's do.

hope this helps.

[NarcissisticDeity]

muscular bulk is not an advantage when your muscles have the piss poor ugly shape that dorian's do.

hope this helps.

Wow Hulkster changing the rules to suit his needs lol thats not how it works and Dorian doesn't need ' shape '  to beat those who do  Flex Wheeler shames Ronnie in terms of shape yet he was soundly defeated by Yates , ever wonder why? because of his overwhelming strengths thats how it works , you'd know this if you were savy like me in how competitive contests are judged but you're ignorant

[KillerMonk]

Ive Flipped the coin Dorian 93 was the Benchmark, Im going with Dorian

[Hulkster]

Wow Hulkster changing the rules to suit his needs lol thats not how it works and Dorian doesn't need ' shape '  to beat those who do  Flex Wheeler shames Ronnie in terms of shape yet he was soundly defeated by Yates , ever wonder why? because of his overwhelming strengths thats how it works , you'd know this if you were savy like me in how competitive contests are judged but you're ignorant

dorian beat flex because of a major size advantage,  lat thickness and width, an advantage he would NOT have against Ronnie 99.

its amazing that you call yourself a fan and yet still have no clue how this sport is judged or how it works..

 

had flex been bigger, wider and a little drier at the olympia, well, he would have been basically Ronnie Coleman 1999.

and dorian would have gone home without the sandow.

[Voice of Doom]

I think this video shows how much more complete a BB'er Dorian was.  I think Ronnie is impressive in a "Paul Dillet" sorta way with great arms and quads but I think Dorian's body is more even while still keeping ungodly amounts of muscle.

[Matt C]

Have a look at those calves!! Where are Ronnie's calves?

Right here !

Nope.  Actually they are right here:

[Iceman1981]

Ronnie at 287 pounds 5 weeks out with better seperation, striations, smaller waist, better V taper, rounder muscle bellies, drier, and out masses yates by 18 pounds.

[Shockwave]

Ronnie at 287 pounds 5 weeks out with better seperation, striations, smaller waist, better V taper, rounder muscle bellies, drier, and out masses yates by 18 pounds.

Still looks like a mismatched bunch of parts thrown together.
Reminds me of Fux there.
Tragic.

[bizzy]

I think the standing relaxed pose says alot about the differences
in their physiques. I believe Shockwave said he liked the tank look.
Dorian has a very powerful, Herculean, look to him. Ronnie has a more tapered,
smaller waist, hips, classical look. They are about equal in mass overall @ their
primes. 93 vs 99. Dorian by many accounts has a harder look to his physique while Ronnie
has more separation and striations. Many have said that Dorian has a thicker bone
structure than Ronnie therefore even at the same weight Ronnie would carry more
muscle. Many say Ronnie in his prime has calves that are out of proportion
with the rest of his body while the other side claims the same for Dorian's arms. 
I prefer the 1999 version of Ronnie because I like his V shape better and I
value separation and striations over hardness. I don't think this debate is going
to change very many people's minds but probably a few. I also think the same
mental/emotional traits that brought us to bodybuilding in the 1st place are the same
traits that won't allow this debate to end.
     
 

[bizzy]

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