Dorian -three weeks out: 1993

[Hulkster]

Sigh.
Yet again you cling to the most muscular like it proves something.
Zealots are always the most annoying.

and why doesn't it prove something?

it clearly shows the pecs, delts, arms, and quads.

this sport is about showing how good your muscles look.

its not my fault if dorian looked like shit compared to Ronnie in the above muscle groups..

maybe if he was better than ronnie like you claim he was, he would look better.

but he doesn't.

and for damn good reason..

[Shockwave]

and why doesn't it prove something?

it clearly shows the pecs, delts, arms, and quads.

this sport is about showing how good your muscles look.

its not my fault if dorian looked like shit compared to Ronnie in the above muscle groups..

maybe if he was better than ronnie like you claim he was, he would look better.

but he doesn't.

and for damn good reason..

The most Muscular is known as the pose that hides weakness' for a reason... it completely takes structure, balance, out of the issue... it's especially good for Ronnie because it highlights his arms and delts, and completely hides all his weakness'.... thats why you post it non-stop... so don't try and hide behind any other reason... there is a reason it wasn't a mandatory for so long. It's a flash pose, it lacks substance.

[Iceman1981]

The most Muscular is known as the pose that hides weakness' for a reason... it completely takes structure, balance, out of the issue... it's especially good for Ronnie because it highlights his arms and delts, and completely hides all his weakness'.... thats why you post it non-stop... so don't try and hide behind any other reason... there is a reason it wasn't a mandatory for so long. It's a flash pose, it lacks substance.

If yates balance & proportions were so good and his "complete" look as you nuthuggers say, then yates would look great in the mm. Since yates looks bad in the mm, maybe he is the one lacking the substance and not the mandatory pose. It's funny they are blaming the mandatory pose and not the bodybuilder himself, LOL.

[NarcissisticDeity]

wtf are you talking about? I posted a blurry screen cap of an untanned Ronnie with no posing oil or contest lighting, and he still beats Dorian. So quit making excuses.


ha ha ha ha



Ronnie destroys Dorian in hamstrings. It's not even close.



I've never argued that Ronnie's calves were better. So you won't hear any disagreement from me.

here's another quote from the same guy.

Peter McGough - Flex, August 2005

"Ronnie sporting that [01 ASC] look would, in my opinion, be unbeatable."

ditto.

Jim Stoppani – Flex Magazine, July 2005

wtf are you talking about? I posted a blurry screen cap of an untanned Ronnie with no posing oil or contest lighting, and he still beats Dorian. So quit making excuses.

No you posted a pic of Munzer & Ronnie 1999 and look at the difference between back rounds in the Yates one and Ronnie , the room is filled with light and Dorian's isn't 

ha ha ha ha

wow great pumpster move  posting stawmen pics I will post a single pic from 1992 that shows Dorian's great separations in all the mentioned areas in the quads I spoke of and ironically you posted pictures from the year Yates tore his quad so that proves nothing

Ronnie destroys Dorian in hamstrings. It's not even close.

yawn same bullshit you post a strawman , a picture you selected because it supposedly proves your point and its garbage it shows your bias and stupidity , in terms of separation in the biceps femoris , semimembranosus and semitendinosus Dorian shows just as great separation ( see pic )

Peter McGough - Flex, August 2005

"Ronnie sporting that [01 ASC] look would, in my opinion, be unbeatable."

McGough

notice the word ' opinion ' ? doesn't mean fact he also said the best physique he ever saw was Dorian Yates at 269 pounds  and according to the criteria that would crush a 244 pound Ronnie

ditto.

Jim Stoppani – Flex Magazine, July 2005

boy you're stuck on stupid with this quote aren't you? did you notice the question mark at the end of the sentence? that means it was posed as a question and it wasn't a declaration of it being a fact

And I'm glad you glossed over all the other topics I responded to I'll take that as your corrected . 


check out the pics of Dorian's separation in his quads and hams , I'll choose the pics to make my point you're to biased to do so.

[Hulkster]

If yates balance & proportions were so good and his "complete" look as you nuthuggers say, then yates would look great in the mm. Since yates looks bad in the mm, maybe he is the one lacking the substance and not the mandatory pose. It's funny they are blaming the mandatory pose and not the bodybuilder himself, LOL.

well said.

instead of blaming the position of the pose, try blaming the crappy ass arms pecs delts and quads (at least in comparison to a 99 Ronnie) next time.

that is why the pose sucks.

its dorian's phyisque deficiencies in comparison to ronnie.

and they are huge.

ps like Neo said, it also shows how much better conditioned ronnie was than Doughboy Yates.

[England_1]

well said.

instead of blaming the position of the pose, try blaming the crappy ass arms pecs delts and quads (at least in comparison to a 99 Ronnie) next time.

that is why the pose sucks.

its dorian's phyisque deficiencies in comparison to ronnie.

and they are huge.

ps like Neo said, it also shows how much better conditioned ronnie was than Doughboy Yates.

So Flex won the 93 Olympia?

hahahahahahahahahah

stupid queef.

[Hulkster]

The most Muscular is known as the pose that hides weakness' for a reason

LOL did you pull this one out of your ass?

it is not known as a pose that hides weakness.

it is  a pose known for showing off upper body (and lower body) strengths from the front.

(or in dorian's case, weaknesses).

why do you think it was made the 8th mandatory pose?

[Hulkster]

So Flex won the 93 Olympia?

hahahahahahahahahah

stupid queef.

lol England cant figure out that flex has nothing to do with this.

lol

no intelligence on the dorian side at all..

but lots of bad teeth. hahahahaha

[England_1]

Hulkster can't keep out of this thread because he damn well knows Dorian smokes Ronnie and he needs to come in here and defend his hero LOL

[England_1]

lol England cant figure out that flex has nothing to do with this.

lol

no intelligence on the dorian side at all..

but lots of bad teeth. hahahahaha

Your credibility is shot buddy.

I mean you did claim Flex won the 1993 Olympia, didn't you?

LOLLLLL

[NeoSeminole]

No you posted a pic of Munzer & Ronnie 1999 and look at the difference between back rounds in the Yates one and Ronnie , the room is filled with light and Dorian's isn't

huh? The pic I posted of Munzer was to show what separations and striations look like, and the DVD screen cap of 99 Ronnie was in reference to your comment about his calves. So I don't know what the f*ck you're complaining about.

wow great pumpster move posting stawmen pics I will post a single pic from 1992 that shows Dorian's great separations in all the mentioned areas in the quads I spoke of and ironically you posted pictures from the year Yates tore his quad so that proves nothing

I don't give a shit about 92. According to you and just about every other Dorian guy, 93 and 95 were his best years. So I only used shots from both years to be fair. I posted a photoshoot pic and 2 contest pics where he's "oiled up and under stage lighting" as you put it, which supposedly makes you look better. Don't b*tch and moan just b/c your boy's quads look bad.

yawn same bullshit you post a strawman , a picture you selected because it supposedly proves your point and its garbage it shows your bias and stupidity , in terms of separation in the biceps femoris , semimembranosus and semitendinosus Dorian shows just as great separation ( see pic )

hamstrings are not even close between Ronnie and Dorian. Ronnie wins by a landslide. Show me pics where Dorian's hamstrings look as big and defined from every angle.

McGough

notice the word ' opinion ' ? doesn't mean fact he also said the best physique he ever saw was Dorian Yates at 269 pounds and according to the criteria that would crush a 244 pound Ronnie

it's also Peter McGough's opinion that Dorian was harder.

boy you're stuck on stupid with this quote aren't you? did you notice the question mark at the end of the sentence? that means it was posed as a question and it wasn't a declaration of it being a fact

of all the people he could have mentioned, he chose 01 ASC Ronnie. I wonder why...

[Figo]

Head-to-head, onstage together, same comp and year, what was the best showing Ronnie had against Dorian?

[England_1]

Flabby ass...check

loose skin on back....check

carrying more water than a reservoir.....check

stick calves and forearms....check

 

[NeoSeminole]

Flabby ass...check

monster loose skin on back....check

stick arms....check

[England_1]

Doz's back is just killing Coleman's on muscularity there! Even though Doz weighed 25lbs less, he still wins the muscularity round! Amazing 

[NeoSeminole]

Doz's back is just killing Coleman's on muscularity there! Even though Doz weighed 25lbs less, he still wins the muscularity round! Amazing

not really. I know this may be a difficult concept for you seeing as how retarded your posts are, but compare head size relative to their body. Ronnie's back is bigger. The reason Dorian's may look more muscular is b/c his pic was taken closer up. Amazing!!!

[England_1]

not really. I know this may be a difficult concept for you seeing as how retarded your posts are, but compare head size relative to their body. Ronnie's back is bigger. The reason Dorian's may look more musculair is b/c his pic was taken closer up. Amazing!!!

You are using head size now to prove something? LOL Here's a little hint, Dorian's back is bigger, thicker, and more-muscular.

First off, what are the exact circumferences of Dorian and Ronnie's heads? You likely have no clue. Therefore you whole last statement is invalid.

Secondly, I already demonstrated that Yates head is much larger than Coleman's. I achieved this by comparing Flex's head to Dorian's at the 1993 Mr. Olympia. Dorian's head was clearly much larger and Coleman's head is the same size as Flex's, not to mention Coleman's head is shaved.

But you are obviously too stupid to understand this 

[England_1]

Damn - even as a rookie - Doz still had better symmetry and proportion than Coleman would ever have! Seriously, Yates was almost perfect here.

[NeoSeminole]

You are using head size now to prove something? LOL Here's a little hint, Dorian's back is bigger, thicker, and more-muscular.

wow, you sure convinced me I'm wrong.

First off, what are the exact circumferences of Dorian and Ronnie's heads? You likely have no clue. Therefore you whole last statement is invalid.

head circumference may vary but not by much - 1 to 2 inches at max. There's no reason to believe that Dorian has an abnormal head size judging by pics.

Secondly, I already demonstrated that Yates head is much larger than Coleman's. I achieved this by comparing Flex's head to Dorian's at the 1993 Mr. Olympia. Dorian's head was clearly much larger and Coleman's head is the same size as Flex's, not to mention Coleman's head is shaved.

"much larger?" ha ha ha. So now apparently Dorian suffered from acromegaly? Where do you come up with this shit?

[England_1]

You just posted a picture to prove my point. Dorian's head was significantly larger than Flex's and Coleman's. Plus, Coleman's head WAS SHAVED which takes off a perceived size of at least 2 inches.

NeoSemenole owned again 

[NeoSeminole]

You just posted a picture to prove my point. Dorian's head was significantly larger than Flex's and Coleman's.

you need to lay off the crack. Flex's head appears to be almost the same size as Dorian's, and Ronnie's head is larger than Flex's which renders your argument nonsensical.

Plus, Coleman's head WAS SHAVED which takes off a perceived size of at least 2 inches.

Dorian barely had any hair in 95. So it wouldn't account for a 2" difference in circumference.

[England_1]

Dorian barely had any hair in 95. So it wouldn't account for a 2" difference in circumference.

Are you blind, stupid or both? Barely any hair? Why would you make such a statement and then post a picture completely contradicting it?

Dorian had very thick hair at the 1993 and 1995 Olympia. It was even bigger at the 94 with a mullet.

If Dorian had a very close buzz cut then maybe your statement would hold some ground, but it simply does not. I simply cannot believe your stupidity at this point.

Team Yates has owned you so bad that now you are trying, on a last gasp, to argue in Coleman's favor because of cranium size LOL

[England_1]

The queef changed the picture because he realized the self-ownage LOL.

Monster stupidity hahaha.

[NeoSeminole]

Are you blind, stupid or both? Barely any hair? Why would you make such a statement and then post a picture completely contradicting it?

how do the pics contradict what I said? Dorian's head was shaved with the exception of a little hair on top. Now if I said he was bald, then I would be contradicting myself with pics.

Dorian had very thick hair at the 1993 and 1995 Olympia. It was even bigger at the 94 with a mullet.

the original pic in question was from 95. I'm not talking about 93 or 94.

If Dorian had a very close buzz cut then maybe your statement would hold some ground, but it simply does not. I simply cannot believe your stupidity at this point.

so what do you call this then?

Team Yates has owned you so bad that now you are trying, on a last gasp, to argue in Coleman's favor because of cranium size LOL

actually, you're the one who's getting owned so bad that you've resorted to claiming Dorian had an abnormally large head.

[NeoSeminole]

The queef changed the picture because he realized the self-ownage LOL.

Monster stupidity hahaha.

what pic? This one?



how did I own myself? The reason I changed it is b/c I found one less blurry.