Dorian -three weeks out: 1993

[NarcissisticDeity]

LOL ND fears 99 ronnie because he is far better than dorian's 93 best:

Still not using the best shots  for a reason

[Iceman1981]

Do we not already have a 1500 page thread about this?
Shit, keep over there. It's the same shit, round and round and round again....

It's the truce thread part 2

[NarcissisticDeity]

It's the truce thread part 2

Well Hulkster lost the first one , now he's trying hard on this one lol it was the Yates thread but you know Hulkster.

[bizzy]

wow great try Neo 

bodybuilding.com http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/glossnz.htm#s oh snap Neo got owned again lol making up definitions huh? lol again if you knew what symmetry was you'd know that Ronnie does have an advantage in a part of symmetry and Dorian as clear advantage in the other part , hence the ' contradicting ' quotes its about context , do you need the definition for that as well? 

accusing Ronnie fans of using photoshopped pics? lol fuck this is going to be bad for you Neo lol please refer to the pics I post lol first is Bizzy admitting he ' adjusts ' pictures and the second pic is the proof of more tampering vs the original ! fuck me Neo thats twice you just got owned in this post alone nevermind all the others

And as far as ignoring quotes thats an outright LIE on your behalf I've addressed every single quote you ever posted  and visual evidence you mean photoshopped pics? lol and everything you just accused me of you're guilty of lol that makes you a hypocrite and grasping at straws claiming a meltdown if I was melting down I would call some one a " dirty Mexican " hey wait you did that !!

man you just got owned in grand fashion lol Neo you're not in my league , never will be in my league like Ronnie you have to many weaknesses 

I am getting tired of explaining this because it keeps getting brought up.
First of all I've been honest in everything I've done which is not much.
ND, You once again question my honesty saying I tampered with the original
which implies that you don't believe my explination earlier. That was from my
1st VCR to DVD transfer. Take a good look at the pics and you will see they are
not the same pic. Flex's head is closer to CC's in my pic. I took 3 screencaps to make a joke
about Ronnie looking @ different bodyparts and commenting on them. Hulkster unknowingly
used some of these pics. He doesn't anymore. I quickly made some adjustments to the lighting
because the transfer wasn't that great. I overdid the contrast and they look ok but pretty
crappy from an artistic standpoint. (It is hard to make Coleman 99 look bad no matter what you do.)
If a picture is too dark I may lighten it a little much like you would use an EQ on your stereo to make
the sound better. I've done this for years on all kinds of pics long before I started posting here. I've been very careful with Coleman's pics since you incesintly bring this up as an excuse. No one complains when I make Yates pics look better.

[bizzy]

Notice Flex's head is closer to CC's in my pic. I didn't mess with the original SC.
This is one of 3 pics from my 1st VCR to DVD transfer with the
contrast too high.

[bizzy]

My 3 caps of Ronnie looking at different body parts.

[pumpster]

ND, You once again question my honesty saying I tampered with the original
which implies that you don't believe my explination earlier.

Were you expecting otherwise from a paranoid?

[NarcissisticDeity]

I am getting tired of explaining this because it keeps getting brought up.
First of all I've been honest in everything I've done which is not much.
ND, You once again question my honesty saying I tampered with the original
which implies that you don't believe my explination earlier. That was from my
1st VCR to DVD transfer. Take a good look at the pics and you will see they are
not the same pic. Flex's head is closer to CC's in my pic. I took 3 screencaps to make a joke
about Ronnie looking @ different bodyparts and commenting on them. Hulkster unknowingly
used some of these pics. He doesn't anymore. I quickly made some adjustments to the lighting
because the transfer wasn't that great. I overdid the contrast and they look ok but pretty
crappy from an artistic standpoint. (It is hard to make Coleman 99 look bad no matter what you do.)
If a picture is too dark I may lighten it a little much like you would use an EQ on your stereo to make
the sound better. I've done this for years on all kinds of pics long before I started posting here. I've been very careful with Coleman's pics since you incesintly bring this up as an excuse. No one complains when I make Yates pics look better.

No one is asking you to lighten Yates pics and again you tampered with the original screen cap and I gave you praise for being honest about it , but its ' adjusted ' none the less its not an excuse its a fact

[NarcissisticDeity]

Were you expecting otherwise from a paranoid?

how is that paranoid ? lol he admitted to adjusting it that my stupid friend is a fact

[Camel Jockey]

Ronnie was better.

End of discussion.

Yates looked great in '93, but Ronnie would beat him in every mandatory pose if you discounted calves.

[NarcissisticDeity]

Ronnie was better.

End of discussion.

Yates looked great in '93, but Ronnie would beat him in every mandatory pose if you discounted calves.

lmfao talk about blanket statements lol and if you discounted balance & proportion , and discounted density & conditioning and if you discounted completeness and if you discounted posing

[Camel Jockey]

lmfao talk about blanket statements lol and if you discounted balance & proportion , and discounted density & conditioning and if you discounted completeness and if you discounted posing

Density and conditioning? Ronnie won on those and most people would tend to agree with me. Completeness? Dorian's biceps tended to disapprear during his rear double-bi, so isn't that just as bad as Ronnie's small calves?

[NarcissisticDeity]

Density and conditioning? Ronnie won on those and most people would tend to agree with me. Completeness? Dorian's biceps tended to disapprear during his rear double-bi, so isn't that just as bad as Ronnie's small calves?

Ronnie's density & conditioning were only outstanding in 1998 and 2001 both years he was bone dry & rock hard , Dorian's conditioning is legendary

and let me know if you can see Dorian's biceps now  and Dorian's biceps may not be as great as Ronnie's but they're real not injected garbage like Coleman's calves

[bizzy]

No one is asking you to lighten Yates pics and again you tampered with the original screen cap and I gave you praise for being honest about it , but its ' adjusted ' none the less its not an excuse its a fact

If you are referring to the screen cap where he is looking at his bicep
then I did not mess with the original. You can tell it's my own screen cap.
1. Flex's head is closer to CC's than the original.
2. If you notice the guy on the left of the screen it's obvious that the camera has panned farther left
because you can see more of him in my pic. I bet the caps are less than a second
apart but they are not the same.
That screen cap came from my VCR tape to my DVD
recorder to my computer. If you are referring to a different screen cap that I've already
admitted to adjusting then it was probably a very dark one where you couldn't hardly see much. 

[Camel Jockey]

I will cease any arguement with you as I have a great deal of respect for you. I mean, you are sort of like a genie; giving awesome pictures at request and I have great respect of you for that.


I like both Dorian and Ronnie to be honest, but it's just difficult to compare post 1998 bber pics with early 90's pics. Personally, I think 90's were the best in terms of sheer mass and conditioning. Post 2000 has turned into a joke and the 2007 Mr. O was perhaps the biggest joke ever. However, 1998, 2000, 2003 Ronnie = huge, conditioned and just freaky.

I'd take Ronnie, but that's just my opinion. I wont debdate it.

[bizzy]

One more thing I just noticed...
Look at the guys arm in relation to the column in the background left.     

[NarcissisticDeity]

I will cease any arguement with you as I have a great deal of respect for you. I mean, you are sort of like a genie; giving awesome pictures at request and I have great respect of your for that.


I like both Dorian and Ronnie to be honest, but it's just difficult to compare post 1998 bber pics with early 90's pics. Personally, I think 90's were the best in terms of sheer mass and conditioning. Post 2000 has turned into a joke and the 2007 Mr. O was perhaps the biggest joke ever. However, 1998, 2000, 2003 Ronnie = huge, conditioned and just freaky.

I'd take Ronnie, but that's just my opinion. I wont debdate it.

I respect your opinion ! 

[suckmymuscle]

  Ok, as for the "grainy" thing...I agree that Dorian had acne in his back at the 1993 Olympia, but I don't think that this is responsible for his graininess. Acne cannot make you look harder. Put lots of pustules in a bodybuilder's body and he won't look harder than he did with a clear complexion. At the 1995 Olympia, Dorian was at his grainiest, and his epidermis had no acne, pustules or eruptions. Since graininess is used as a synonym for hardness, and since acne does not make you look harder, then acne cannot be responsible for graininess.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[NarcissisticDeity]

  Ok, as for the "grainy" thing...I agree that Dorian had acne in his back at the 1993 Olympia, but I don't think that this is responsible for his graininess. Acne cannot make you look harder. Put lots of pustules in a bodybuilder's body and he won't look harder than he did with a clear complexion. At the 1995 Olympia, Dorian was at his grainiest, and his epidermis had no acne, pustules or eruptions. Since graininess is used as a synonym for hardness, and since acne does make you look harder, then acne cannot be respopnsible for graininess.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

How about Hulkster now claiming Ronnie 99 was more grainy than Dorian ever was lol I kid you not.

[suckmymuscle]

How about Hulkster now claiming Ronnie 99 was more grainy than Dorian ever was lol I kid you not.

  Trying to convince Hulkster that Ronnie is not superior to every bodybuilder who ever stepped onstage at everything is like trying to convince Osama Bin Laden that Jehovah and not Alah is the real God.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[NarcissisticDeity]

  Trying to convince Hulkster that Ronnie is not superior to every bodybuilder who ever stepped onstage at everything is like trying to convince Osama Bin Laden that Jehovah and not Alah is the real God.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

Ha Ha Ha Ha Great analogy ! you're the fucking man . 

[bizzy]

The mods locked the Truce thread a few days ago. It has gone on
around 1 1/2 years if I'm correct. It needs to come down to
some kind of exciting ending other than just getting locked up.
What about starting a new thread to end the Truce thread. It
would be a poll of who was better. Give it plenty of time for people
to vote. (Say a month for example.) Maybe a sticky if someone
can arrange it with a Mod.
Something like: "The Poll to end the Truce Thread"
At the end whoever has the most votes wins. If Hulkster or ND could set this up
it would be a much cooler way of ending this than the thread eventually getting locked up.
They've done something similar at MD (where I got the idea) and it is neck and neck right now. 
http://forums.musculardevelopment.com/showthread.php?t=6171

[Hulkster]

I am getting tired of explaining this because it keeps getting brought up.

it keeps getting brought up because its the ONLY way for ND to discredit the domination of ronnie over dorian.

the same screencaps were posted untouched before and dorian was dominated.

ND cried fake.

now the same shots (adjusted slightly along WITH the dorian shots) are posted.

dorian STILL dominated.

but now, ND can completely disregard anything shown in the pics according to him...

he is even saying that older untouched pics are altered.

its an excuse brought up every single time now a shot of dorian is dominated (which is almost all of them).

it gets brought up all the time because dorian is dominated all the time.

and don't expect ND and Co. to understand or learn anything you say.

this has been cleary established that they lack the basic understanding skill to learn anything.

[NarcissisticDeity]

it keeps getting brought up because its the ONLY way for ND to discredit the domination of ronnie over dorian.

the same screencaps were posted untouched before and dorian was dominated.

ND cried fake.

now the same shots (adjusted slightly along WITH the dorian shots) are posted.

dorian STILL dominated.

but now, ND can completely disregard anything shown in the pics according to him...

he is even saying that older untouched pics are altered.

its an excuse brought up every single time now a shot of dorian is dominated (which is almost all of them).

it gets brought up all the time because dorian is dominated all the time.

and don't expect ND and Co. to understand or learn anything you say.

this has been cleary established that they lack the basic understanding skill to learn anything.

damn you're melting down on every thread lol


proof Hulkster knowingly used photoshopped pics because he needs to 

[Hulkster]

damn you're melting down on every thread lol


proof Hulkster knowingly used photoshopped pics because he needs to 

question for ND:

how does the COLOUR change the fact that the vascularity and detail were miles ahead of anything dorian ever presented?

you are quick to discount an adjusted pic, but you fail to explain why a pic adjusted for colour changes everything displayed in the pic.

typical move for the unintelligent who does not know how to defend a position in a debate...