if jay's muscletech usage is for show, then what does he really use?

[Tom]

if the consensus is that muscletech products are crap and jay's photos of him downing the stuff in all of the mags,then  what is the opinion of everyone on what jay's DOES use as far as protein/meal replacements, vitamins, etcetera ( no, no wise cracks on his real supplement usage, i.e. aas,slin,gh)

[Bobby]

SOLID FOOD

[Mars]

i wonder how much better jay looks due the use of these muscletech supplements., would be great to see comparission pictures of that. prolly no difference at all.

[Dragon]

Ezekial bread and orange roughy is what ive heard

[Go 4 It]

Celltech works..never tried any of their other products.

[Rimbaud]

if the consensus is that muscletech products are crap and jay's photos of him downing the stuff in all of the mags,then  what is the opinion of everyone on what jay's DOES use as far as protein/meal replacements, vitamins, etcetera ( no, no wise cracks on his real supplement usage, i.e. aas,slin,gh)

It's not that they're crap, it's just that they're overpriced (IMO).

[Beener]

Yeah Muscletechs some decent shit, its just expensive like a guy. Of course Jay uses muscletech, hes sponsored by them n gets that shit for free.

[mass 04]

BSN

[The Squadfather]

he'd be stupid if he didn't use it if he's getting it free, wasting money is never smart no matter how much you have, with the drugs these guys take any supplement will work.

[affeman]

I heared that most of the pros don't use any supplements at all (no joke). Creatine and glutamin are useless (not to mention testosterone boosters, as any pro would rely on his own testosteron ; or fat burners with no proven effect at all), protein is so fukkin overrated it's not even funny (2 gr/pd are necessary, sure ). With halfway decent real foods u don't need any of this bullshit at all and get easily enough protein, vitamins, and all the stuff u need for growth (when you're hormonized the right way).

[Mars]

I heared that most of the pros don't use any supplements at all (no joke). Creatine and glutamin are useless (not to mention testosterone boosters, as any pro would rely on his own testosteron ; or fat burners with no proven effect at all), protein is so fukkin overrated it's not even funny (2 gr/pd are necessary, sure ). With halfway decent real foods u don't need any of this bullshit at all and get easily enough protein, vitamins, and all the stuff u need for growth (when you're hormonized the right way).

yeah good food is enough.

[Rimbaud]

he'd be stupid if he didn't use it if he's getting it free, wasting money is never smart no matter how much you have, with the drugs these guys take any supplement will work.

Excellent point. If someone was gving me a couple hundred bucks worth of sups a month I'd use them.

[The Squadfather]

I heared that most of the pros don't use any supplements at all (no joke). Creatine and glutamin are useless (not to mention testosterone boosters, as any pro would rely on his own testosteron ; or fat burners with no proven effect at all), protein is so fukkin overrated it's not even funny (2 gr/pd are necessary, sure ). With halfway decent real foods u don't need any of this bullshit at all and get easily enough protein, vitamins, and all the stuff u need for growth (when you're hormonized the right way).

"I heared"?

[bigbobs]

Long time ago I was at a seminar by Craig Titus and Greg Kovacs.

Someone asked about creatine, and Craig started saying that all you need is 5 grams a day, and not to be fooled by labels that recommend anything greater, and that you can choose between its pure form or that mixed with sugar....then he jokingly said (this was while Greg was endorsing Muscletech), "Greg Kovacs uses the kind that is pre-mixed with sugar right?....that Celltech stuff?"  and Greg had this sarcastic grin...both of them were implying that he doesnt actually use Celltech...everyone laughed...then they Greg goes, "actually some of Muscletech's products are pretty good, like the hydroxycut."

Overall from that I got the impression that they use very little/no supplements (other than protein powder) and don't necessarily use the brand they endorse, unless if they got it for free I'm sure they do.

[affeman]

Maybe gh15 says something about that topic...

[mass 04]

If they get it for free i am sure they at least try it, but i doubt Jay would take trips to GNC for Nitrotech hardcore to keep a positive nitrogen balance if he wasn't getting the products free.

[dearth]

i heard he secretly uses muscle asylum products because "the ads look hardcore"

[bigbobs]

Maybe gh15 says something about that topic...

Pro bodybuilders take NO SUPPLEMENTS,,,,ONLY PHARM GRADE GEAR,,,

[affy]

I heared that most of the pros don't use any supplements at all (no joke). Creatine and glutamin are useless (not to mention testosterone boosters, as any pro would rely on his own testosteron ; or fat burners with no proven effect at all), protein is so fukkin overrated it's not even funny (2 gr/pd are necessary, sure ). With halfway decent real foods u don't need any of this bullshit at all and get easily enough protein, vitamins, and all the stuff u need for growth (when you're hormonized the right way).

there are a lot of peer reviewed studies that prove creatine isn't "useless", i think that has more credibility then then something you "heared"

muscletech is infamous for its high price..not its quality.  Cell tech is just creatine, dextrose, and protein...anyone can make the exact crap they sell for 1/4th of the price

[affeman]

there are a lot of peer reviewed studies that prove creatine isn't "useless", i think that has more credibility then then something you "heared"

And who published that kind of studies?? Muscletech or Weider?? LOL

[emn1964]

"I heared"?

LMAO. . . .I don't know what's funnier, the above quote or the naive nature of this thread.

[delta9mda]

Bob Chick told me outright, creatine is good for getting there but since he is already big he doesnt use any.

[_bruce_]

The powders are convinient when on the go or too disgusted to chow down like 20 eggwhites. I think Jay uses it as some kind of treat given the "awesome" Muscletech(TM) -taste.

[HTexan]

uh.. I just bought some cell-tech hardcore. I When I finished the bottle, what creatine product should i buy?

[Knives]

uh.. I just bought some cell-tech hardcore. I When I finished the bottle, what creatine product should i buy?

none.  save your money or use it to buy something that actually works (gear) or food