if jay's muscletech usage is for show, then what does he really use?

[emn1964]

Bob Chick told me outright, creatine is good for getting there but since he is already big he doesnt use any.

LMAO..well if Bob says so...

[kcballer]

creatine is proven to work, but it doesn't work for everyone and most studies are on untrained athletes, not bodybuilders.  Besides the % it actually increases strength by is pretty small compated to what gear can do for you as a supplement.

[highlander]

didnt wheeler used to sell the weider crap to noice trainers in the gym. being the money factory jay wants to be, he should hold a "20% off muscletech for cash" sale in the carpark at maxs golds on tuesdays. tax free income  

[The Freakshow]

I heared that most of the pros don't use any supplements at all (no joke). Creatine and glutamin are useless (not to mention testosterone boosters, as any pro would rely on his own testosteron ; or fat burners with no proven effect at all), protein is so fukkin overrated it's not even funny (2 gr/pd are necessary, sure ). With halfway decent real foods u don't need any of this bullshit at all and get easily enough protein, vitamins, and all the stuff u need for growth (when you're hormonized the right way).

That is one of the most ignorant statements i have ever heard about bodybuilders. You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about!

Have fun staying small my friend

[gordiano]

You should only use products from reputable companies, like Gay-Tech.

[The Freakshow]

I heared that most of the pros don't use any supplements at all (no joke). Creatine and glutamin are useless (not to mention testosterone boosters, as any pro would rely on his own testosteron ; or fat burners with no proven effect at all), protein is so fukkin overrated it's not even funny (2 gr/pd are necessary, sure ). With halfway decent real foods u don't need any of this bullshit at all and get easily enough protein, vitamins, and all the stuff u need for growth (when you're hormonized the right way).

I just got done training back and took my normal post training mix (Same as pre training):

40 grams Whey Protein
6 grams Creatine
5 grams Glutaimne
3 grams AAKG

[gh15]

what you take in a week he takes in a day in addition gh insulin exotic oils:)
but most most mosttttttttttttttttttt importantly ! IT IS ALL LEGIT,,see 90% of you use fake crap i wouldnt give a mouce in a lab you do it to save 30$ but in reality you fuck your body up get weaker and waste good money you could use for buying a car for example insted of paying on it 400$ a month you would be able to purchase it right on the spot if you didnt spend yoru money on shit

[PANDAEMONIUM]

none.  save your money or use it to buy something that actually works (gear) or food

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[mass 04]

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hahah, him and candidate should write a book. It would be a guaranteed seller. 

[MikeThaMachine]

hahah, him and candidate should write a book. It would be a guaranteed seller. 

El Mariachi could edit it.

[affy]

what you take in a week he takes in a day in addition gh insulin exotic oils:)
but most most mosttttttttttttttttttt importantly ! IT IS ALL LEGIT,,see 90% of you use fake crap i wouldnt give a mouce in a lab you do it to save 30$ but in reality you fuck your body up get weaker and waste good money you could use for buying a car for example insted of paying on it 400$ a month you would be able to purchase it right on the spot if you didnt spend yoru money on shit

rofl

great logic...so instead of a college kid who wants to gain some muscle buying a kg of creatine you suggest him to buy a couple amps of test instead. 

[Alex23]

Epic tool thread.

[affeman]

I just got done training back and took my normal post training mix (Same as pre training):

40 grams Whey Protein
6 grams Creatine
5 grams Glutaimne
3 grams AAKG

Yeah, and that has to be the reason why you grow...

LOL epic waste of money

[mass 04]

Epic tool thread.

maybe Jay likes to keep his Cell Tech Hardcore and Adoplan in vials in his fridge. 

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If you want to use creatine/bcaas/arginine/glutamine/etc be my guest.  I'm just not going to spend my hard earned cash on shit that doesn't work.

[The Freakshow]

Yeah, and that has to be the reason why you grow...

LOL epic waste of money

It definitely plays a significant part.

[njflex]

some supplementation is ok,and some claims are just outrageous,and the ingrediants.but whats funny about say muscltech is all the top pros say anator is getting me over the hump to the olympia finals ok,well what got u to the finals a year or so ago.marketing is a genius...