muscle VS fat????

[clrz1000]

I was in the gym the other day and overheard the typical aas conversation going on betwen a couple of guys. " man if I could get real stuff Id use it" and so on. well they talked back and forth about how much of this and that they would use and so on. one of them up and said I would use but don't like needles and would probably not be able do do it and if I did I'd only go in the skin and not in the muscle. well I got to thinking about that? Has ony one done this or heard of someone injecting like this? shooting just into the fat. I thought to myself just how often one had went just deep enough into the muscle for the very tip of the pin to penetrate? and how much gear backed out into the fat through the pin hole? I was just wondering? thats all
LATER

[Vet]

I was in the gym the other day and overheard the typical aas conversation going on betwen a couple of guys. " man if I could get real stuff Id use it" and so on. well they talked back and forth about how much of this and that they would use and so on. one of them up and said I would use but don't like needles and would probably not be able do do it and if I did I'd only go in the skin and not in the muscle. well I got to thinking about that? Has ony one done this or heard of someone injecting like this? shooting just into the fat. I thought to myself just how often one had went just deep enough into the muscle for the very tip of the pin to penetrate? and how much gear backed out into the fat through the pin hole? I was just wondering? thats all
LATER

There is a big difference between the 0.01 ml that leaks back out and depositing 1, 2, or 3 ml of an oil based substance under the skin.   Humans don't have the subcutaneous space animals have.   I'm willing to bet that theyd get one hell of a sterile abcess. 

[atr911]

Injecting into adipose (fat) tissue isn't the end or the world but surely isn't ideal.  There is a higher likely hood that the depot will stay there longer because of much slower absorbtion time and you always risk it abscessing at the same time.

Realistically, it doesn't hurt anymore to penetrate the muscle than it does to get past the upper layer of the skin.

If you're using a needle that 'just barley penetrates the muscle'  you're either too fat to be on gear, too stupid to learn proper injection sites (and shouldn't be on gear), or you're using too small a needle.  Believe it or not, 1.5" 25g can be use to shoot just about anywhere if you're even decently developed.  The deeper in the muscle, the better.

EDIT:  1cc isn't the end of the world 2cc+ could be dangerous as mentioned above.

[lil_red]

You ever try to inject .5cc or more sub q? I mixed up my first Hcg with to much bac c water and had to do about .5 cc... and that for me felt like its stretching my skin apart! I think something suspended in oil and around 1 cc would be painfull as hell, plus i don't think the absorption would be efficient as Intramuscular. Man up and shoot it IM it's not bad at all!

[delta9mda]

once through the skin, you dont feel anything.

[clrz1000]

not real sure here? but my question has nothing to do with me. its just that you can overhear this kinda talk between people quite often. it just got my wheels turning about something I never thought about. I stay to my self and don't talk to people about NOTHING i do personally. I dont even go to my hometown gym because I dont want to be questioned. a good friend of mine uses and some people he knows are always dropping hints and fishing for info. they aren't stupid and know he is bullshitting them when he tells them he uses SIDI labs leagel stacks.dianabolon and all that other legal stuff. anyways It might have been a silly post. sorry
LATER

OH YEAH
I always have done my HCG the IM way. works good I guess.

[4thAD]

also shooting gear subq will allow the test to release at a much more unstable rate and will cause blood levels to be much less stable.

[davinci]

when i started my first cycle i wasted almost 10ml pinnin into my ass. my ass holds alot of fat, (ghetto ass) rest of me is prety lean i just have a bubble butt. well after one month i thought i had fake gear, till i was told to try hittin delts and quads, 3 weeks later i could tell a world of difference....... hittin muscle is most ideal way to get the gear in

[local hero]

ive never been able to get away with leg shots, feels like youve been stabed in the leg for the next 5 days

alot of guys are shooting there growth IM these days too,ive always shot mine into the tops of thighs or into the stomach under the skin,,, any advantage to shooting im?

[trab]

ive never been able to get away with leg shots, feels like youve been stabed in the leg for the next 5 days

alot of guys are shooting there growth IM these days too,ive always shot mine into the tops of thighs or into the stomach under the skin,,, any advantage to shooting im?

I think its picked up faster SQ than IM.

[Big_Tymer]

You ever try to inject .5cc or more sub q? I mixed up my first Hcg with to much bac c water and had to do about .5 cc... and that for me felt like its stretching my skin apart! I think something suspended in oil and around 1 cc would be painfull as hell, plus i don't think the absorption would be efficient as Intramuscular. Man up and shoot it IM it's not bad at all!

odd, i mixed my hcg to where i had to do 1ml subq into my stomach a couple times, and never had any pain.

[abc123]

I've also shot 1 cc SQ on a daily basis for a period of weeks.  No pain whatsoever.