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Re: Christians freak out about the Golden Compass Film!
« Reply #1 on: December 05, 2007, 11:57:57 PM »
It's only a movie - they should get over themselves. Perhaps there is even a grain of truth to it (uh hum "inquisition").

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Re: Christians freak out about the Golden Compass Film!
« Reply #2 on: December 06, 2007, 04:44:16 AM »
The facts:

Is the 2007 film 'The Golden Compass' based on books with anti-religious themes?
http://www.snopes.com/politics/religion/compass.asp

The film The Golden Compass is a controversy among Christians-Truth!
http://www.truthorfiction.com/rumors/g/golden-compass.htm

Fear Not the Compass
http://www.christianitytoday.com/movies/commentaries/fearnotthecompass.html


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Re: Christians freak out about the Golden Compass Film!
« Reply #3 on: December 06, 2007, 08:19:41 AM »
I have seen it yesterday and even if I;m not a fan of such movies I have to say it was very entertaining.

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Re: Christians freak out about the Golden Compass Film!
« Reply #4 on: December 06, 2007, 08:22:20 AM »
To be honest most kids will be talking about the cool Polar Bear is rather than any theological arguments the movie is trying to make...or at least normal kids will be.

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Re: Christians freak out about the Golden Compass Film!
« Reply #5 on: December 06, 2007, 03:16:46 PM »
If they wanted to they could their panties in a bunch over just about every thing on TV and the Movies.   But Christians aren't running around demanding a 2nd grade teacher gets killed over naming a teddy bear Mohammad. 

One way or another some Christians will always whine about something that's made that doesn't fit into their beliefs.  So what? 

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Re: Christians freak out about the Golden Compass Film!
« Reply #6 on: December 06, 2007, 03:21:17 PM »
who gives a shit if its anti christian, is that not allowed?

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Re: Christians freak out about the Golden Compass Film!
« Reply #7 on: December 06, 2007, 04:00:46 PM »
If they wanted to they could their panties in a bunch over just about every thing on TV and the Movies.   But Christians aren't running around demanding a 2nd grade teacher gets killed over naming a teddy bear Mohammad. 

One way or another some Christians will always whine about something that's made that doesn't fit into their beliefs.  So what? 

I see you didn't even bother to read the links I posted.     ::)

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Re: Christians freak out about the Golden Compass Film!
« Reply #8 on: December 06, 2007, 04:04:49 PM »
who gives a shit if its anti christian, is that not allowed?

Yes, it is allowed.  Who cares?  Christians are just warning other Christians that this kids movie is anti-Christian.  Are they not allowed to give a heads up?

BTW, it is mainly the Roman Catholic church freaking out and complaining over this.  Though the author is atheist and has an agenda, he is mainly attacking the Roman Catholic church.

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Re: Christians freak out about the Golden Compass Film!
« Reply #9 on: December 06, 2007, 04:16:59 PM »
I see you didn't even bother to read the links I posted.     ::)

I wasn't responding to what you posted.

I was only making the point that Christians will complain or whine about many things, however they aren't ready to kill someone over it.

Calm down loco.

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Re: Christians freak out about the Golden Compass Film!
« Reply #10 on: December 06, 2007, 05:08:28 PM »
Funny how it is the most vocal and aggressive atheists who say Christians should not indoctrinate their children, never mind that Christian parents sincerely believe that Christianity is good for their children.  Yet, here is this atheist author, Pullman, indoctrinating children with his anti-Christan children's books and now with this movie.  A bit hypocritical I think.

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Re: Christians freak out about the Golden Compass Film!
« Reply #11 on: December 06, 2007, 05:16:31 PM »
Funny how it is the most vocal and aggressive atheists who say Christians should not indoctrinate their children, never mind that Christian parents sincerely believe that Christianity is good for their children.  Yet, here is this atheist author, Pullman, indoctrinating children with his anti-Christan children's books and now with this movie.  A bit hypocritical I think.

Not really.  Because based on their belief, Christianity is a fairy tail.  They see it as no more the truth than your average fairy tail.

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Re: Christians freak out about the Golden Compass Film!
« Reply #12 on: December 06, 2007, 05:33:11 PM »
Not really.  Because based on their belief, Christianity is a fairy tail.  They see it as no more the truth than your average fairy tail.

If they are going to indoctrinate children using atheist children's material like this, then these atheists are hypocrites for telling Christian parents that they should not indoctrinate their children.  These atheists can do all the indoctrinating they want, but stop telling Christians not to do the same. 

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Re: Christians freak out about the Golden Compass Film!
« Reply #13 on: December 06, 2007, 05:50:59 PM »
If they are going to indoctrinate children using atheist children's material like this, then these atheists are hypocrites for telling Christian parents that they should not indoctrinate their children.  These atheists can do all the indoctrinating they want, but stop telling Christians not to do the same. 

What they are saying is that Christianity is a fairy tale that Christians are telling their children as the truth.   When they indoctrinate their children with atheist material they are showing the children the truth and not the fairy tale they believe Christians are.  So from their perspective, they are not be hypocritical but from yours they are.

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Re: Christians freak out about the Golden Compass Film!
« Reply #14 on: December 06, 2007, 05:54:57 PM »
These are the same nutcases who freaked out over "The Davinci Code".

Who cares what some fruitloops think?

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Re: Christians freak out about the Golden Compass Film!
« Reply #15 on: December 06, 2007, 06:13:20 PM »
What they are saying is that Christianity is a fairy tale that Christians are telling their children as the truth.   When they indoctrinate their children with atheist material they are showing the children the truth and not the fairy tale they believe Christians are.  So from their perspective, they are not be hypocritical but from yours they are.

They are hypocritical  because they are telling Christian parents not to indoctrinate their children, while they are doing the very same thing.  So it's okay when they  do it, but not okay when Christians do it.  That's hypocritical.  They can do all the indoctrinating they want, but stop telling Christians not to do the same.

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Re: Christians freak out about the Golden Compass Film!
« Reply #16 on: December 06, 2007, 06:16:59 PM »
These are the same nutcases who freaked out over "The Davinci Code".

Who cares what some fruitloops think?

Yes, the same nutcases who freaked out over "Harry Potter" too, but Harry Potter is not anti-Christian propaganda.  And The Davinci Code was not a children's movie based on Children's books.  The Golden Compass is different in that it is openly targeting children for atheist, specifically anti-Christian, indoctrination.

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Re: Christians freak out about the Golden Compass Film!
« Reply #17 on: December 06, 2007, 06:22:32 PM »
Yes, the same nutcases who freaked out over "Harry Potter" too, but Harry Potter is not anti-Christian propaganda.  And The Davinci Code was not a children's movie based on Children's books.  The Golden Compass is different in that it is openly targeting children for atheist, specifically anti-Christian, indoctrination.

So what?

It's a freaking movie?

Why aren't these bitches complaining about star wars.

It's ENTERTAINMENT... You go to be entertained, you don't sit around and go, "Yeah, this movie is right, there is no god." If anyone thinks that's what happens, they're just idiots.

If a 2 hour movie changes someones ideas about their religion, they weren't into their religion in the first place were they?

If church wasn't so boring (ie, more entertaining) , more people might actually show up anyway.

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Re: Christians freak out about the Golden Compass Film!
« Reply #18 on: December 06, 2007, 06:43:45 PM »
It's ENTERTAINMENT... You go to be entertained, you don't sit around and go, "Yeah, this movie is right, there is no god." If anyone thinks that's what happens, they're just idiots.

That's what the author thinks too. 

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Re: Christians freak out about the Golden Compass Film!
« Reply #19 on: December 06, 2007, 07:01:52 PM »
They are hypocritical  because they are telling Christian parents not to indoctrinate their children, while they are doing the very same thing.  So it's okay when they  do it, but not okay when Christians do it.  That's hypocritical.  They can do all the indoctrinating they want, but stop telling Christians not to do the same.

Not really, because in their mind sthey are telling the truth and Christians aren't.

In other words, it's ok to teach your children the truth and not ok to teach them fairy tales as the truth. 

Hypocrisy would be telling someone not to kill, it's immoral to kill, killing is bad and then ordering them to kill innocent children  ;) ;D  Sorry i just couldn't help it.  Because it's funny when you complain about hypocrisy in this case yet you believe killing children was the right thing to do in that instance we have talked about many times. 

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Re: Christians freak out about the Golden Compass Film!
« Reply #20 on: December 06, 2007, 08:00:46 PM »
Not really, because in their mind sthey are telling the truth and Christians aren't.

Well, "in their minds" Christian parents are teaching their children the truth.  So why are these atheists telling Christians that they should let their children grow up first and then decide for themselves if they want to be theist or atheist?  They are indoctrinating too.  They are not letting children group up first and then decide.  It's a double standard.  They are being hypocrites.

In other words, it's ok to teach your children the truth and not ok to teach them fairy tales as the truth. 

Do you tell your children that you believe in God or do you keep that a secret from them?  Do you tell your children that you believe in "fairy tales"?

Hypocrisy would be telling someone not to kill, it's immoral to kill, killing is bad and then ordering them to kill innocent children  ;) ;D  Sorry i just couldn't help it.  Because it's funny when you complain about hypocrisy in this case yet you believe killing children was the right thing to do in that instance we have talked about many times. 

Hypocrisy would be calling the Jews child murderers when you support the legal murder of millions of unborn babies.

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Re: Christians freak out about the Golden Compass Film!
« Reply #21 on: December 07, 2007, 06:20:02 AM »
It's only a movie - they should get over themselves. Perhaps there is even a grain of truth to it (uh hum "inquisition").

Get over themselves? Sounds like good advice. Perhaps, you should give that to some of your non-believing brethren who have aneurisms and strokes, every time they see a Nativity scene or a little kid has the audacity to mention Jesus Christ during the Christmas season.

As I’ve heard one pastor state, atheists are some of the strangest people you’ll meet (a number of them, anyway). Who else gets all worked up and bent out of shape, about something that they don’t believe exists?



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Re: Christians freak out about the Golden Compass Film!
« Reply #22 on: December 07, 2007, 07:10:20 AM »
Well, "in their minds" Christian parents are teaching their children the truth.  So why are these atheists telling Christians that they should let their children grow up first and then decide for themselves if they want to be theist or atheist?  They are indoctrinating too.  They are not letting children group up first and then decide.  It's a double standard.  They are being hypocrites.

Children eventually decide on their own regardless of their upbringing so that point is moot.

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Do you tell your children that you believe in God or do you keep that a secret from them?  Do you tell your children that you believe in "fairy tales"?

It doesn't matter what i tell them, the point is what atheists believe i am telling them.

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Hypocrisy would be calling the Jews child murderers when you support the legal murder of millions of unborn babies.

First off, i don't support that.  There wouldn't be a scenario I'd support it in, but there is scenario you'd order the murder of children in.  Thousands of them.

And for the record, i have never supported it, i have never voted for it.  However, you have told us what you'd do. 

And even then, by definition, both God and i are hypocrites.........which is who I learned it from  ;)

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Re: Christians freak out about the Golden Compass Film!
« Reply #23 on: December 07, 2007, 07:11:13 AM »
I wasn't responding to what you posted.

I was only making the point that Christians will complain or whine about many things, however they aren't ready to kill someone over it.

Calm down loco.

Oh, sorry OzmO!  My mistake!  And thanks for the kind post!    ;D

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Re: Christians freak out about the Golden Compass Film!
« Reply #24 on: December 07, 2007, 07:20:46 AM »
Get over themselves? Sounds like good advice. Perhaps, you should give that to some of your non-believing brethren who have aneurisms and strokes, every time they see a Nativity scene or a little kid has the audacity to mention Jesus Christ during the Christmas season.

As I’ve heard one pastor state, atheists are some of the strangest people you’ll meet (a number of them, anyway). Who else gets all worked up and bent out of shape, about something that they don’t believe exists?




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